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David__77

(24,833 posts)
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 12:36 AM Dec 2023

Black church leaders 'on the fence' on Biden endorsement amid Israel-Gaza war

Last month, the group Black Christian Faith Leaders for Ceasefire took out a full-page ad in the New York Times pushing for president Joe Biden “to call for an immediate bilateral ceasefire in the Middle East for the sake of our shared humanity and our collective security”. More than 900 Black Christian faith leaders representing churches across the country backed the letter.

Prior to the publication of the ad, signatories of the letter met with White House officials and the Congressional Black Caucus to discuss their concerns regarding the Israel-Gaza war, namely the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. The Guardian spoke with several signatories who said they were disappointed with how the meetings went.

Historically, Black Christian voters, often led by their pastors, have been instrumental in electing Democratic candidates. During the lead-up to the 2020 election, the Black Church PAC, which signed the letter in tandem with Leaders for Ceasefire, was pivotal in mobilizing Black and religious voters. They hosted virtual “souls to the polls” events, text-a-thons, voter-registration drives and digital-organizing workshops, and held a bus tour on which they hosted pop-up events to further engage voters. The PAC reached more than 30,000 people, made nearly 45,000 calls and trained more than 2,500 clergy leaders in election protection and souls-to-the-polls efforts.



https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/16/black-church-leaders-on-the-fence-on-biden-endorsement-amid-israel-gaza-war

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Black church leaders 'on the fence' on Biden endorsement amid Israel-Gaza war (Original Post) David__77 Dec 2023 OP
What the heck? I'm not for how Netanyahu is presuing this war, but "helping" dictator in waiting drumphf... electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #9
Enjoy your stay. Celerity Dec 2023 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #11
Lol, tell me more about the reptilians you were gobbing on about in another thread. Celerity Dec 2023 #12
LOL malaise Dec 2023 #13
Omg sis! My parent's CIA cover is blown!! Panic panic! Celerity Dec 2023 #14
Seek cover😀 malaise Dec 2023 #15
That troll always sounds like a 2009 Alex Jones show rerun. Celerity Dec 2023 #16
There are people that actually think if a politician doesn't do what they consider to Autumn Dec 2023 #17
I can understand it Up To A Point, and it's complex at times But Not This Time electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #19
Misleading subject line. A small subset, not what is implied by the subject line NoRethugFriends Dec 2023 #2
Useful idiots for Hamas. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #3
Agree nt Raine Dec 2023 #5
Because TFG 2.0 is going to be so safe and fun for Black Americans... RockRaven Dec 2023 #4
Bibi wants Trump back in even more that Putin. Xolodno Dec 2023 #6
Agreed. Bibi will happily accept funding and military hardware from Biden no_hypocrisy Dec 2023 #8
900 Churches JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #7
Looking quickly at Pew Research re 2020 compared to 2016.... electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #21
Agreed Aepps22 Dec 2023 #24
Ummm... maxrandb Dec 2023 #18
People should vote their conscience. Mosby Dec 2023 #20
Putin is such a rat face. gulliver Dec 2023 #22
More useful idiots Calculating Dec 2023 #23

electric_blue68

(26,985 posts)
1. What the heck? I'm not for how Netanyahu is presuing this war, but "helping" dictator in waiting drumphf...
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 01:05 AM
Dec 2023

by omitting voting GOTV etc ?!

How do they think drumphf is going to treat Black people (amongst other "favored"* groups) when he has no holds barred if elected again.



Duh!!!

(* just in case)

Response to electric_blue68 (Reply #1)

Response to Celerity (Reply #10)

Celerity

(54,650 posts)
12. Lol, tell me more about the reptilians you were gobbing on about in another thread.
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 07:41 AM
Dec 2023

holly jolly holi

108. It makes zero difference when I signed up. A shill is a shill and you know because you're one yourself. Also a gatekeeper.

Home country: US/UK/Sweden. Who are you: an adult child of a CIA agent? Got MK Ultra? Do you think you're fooling anyone? You're trying to control a narrative that is dying by the day. The reptilians are toast and I have popcorn 🍿 for DAYS!!!!! 😎

Autumn

(48,978 posts)
17. There are people that actually think if a politician doesn't do what they consider to
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 10:31 AM
Dec 2023

to be earning their vote they won't vote for them. Kind of dumb.

Xolodno

(7,360 posts)
6. Bibi wants Trump back in even more that Putin.
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 02:25 AM
Dec 2023

It's his only life line to stay in power. Wouldn't be surprised various groups are being overly touted at not being happy with Biden.

no_hypocrisy

(55,079 posts)
8. Agreed. Bibi will happily accept funding and military hardware from Biden
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 06:16 AM
Dec 2023

while pushing for Trump to return in 2025.

JustAnotherGen

(38,079 posts)
7. 900 Churches
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 04:10 AM
Dec 2023

There are black churches with 50 member congregations. I would encourage the writer to drive through Newark to see the number of churches converted from small homes.

Also - they are ignorant on civics :

The PAC’s endorsement of the Biden-Harris ticket was contingent on promises that the group says have not been kept, such as a failure to pass a federal voting rights bill and failure to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act. With the administration’s support of the war in the Middle East, PAC members say their 2024 endorsement is up in the air.


If they think Manchin is a better 3rd Party Choice . . .

They are goin' for bad. Where the goats can get it? At the root?

Manchin and Sinema sunk Voting Rights.



Note on the Survey:
https://genforwardsurvey.com/
GenForward At The University Of Chicago
The GenForward Survey is the first of its kind—a nationally representative survey of over 4,000 people that pays special attention to how race and ethnicity shape how young adults, both Millennials and Gen Z-ers, experience and think about the world.


4K is not a big enough sample.

We've been ignored since the MAGA Voter arrived on the scene and now the media wants to cover us?

They need to hyper focus on white women voters in America. That's who voted against their interests in 2016 and 2020. I put a lot of what is happening in the world at their feet.

electric_blue68

(26,985 posts)
21. Looking quickly at Pew Research re 2020 compared to 2016....
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 02:15 PM
Dec 2023

Drumpf gained a bit with white women (ick!)

But lost more in the suburbs
• 2016 won by 16%
2020 won by 4%

So white suburbans, independents need more focus
But since every vote counts to such a
critical degree we need them all
(imho)


Aepps22

(392 posts)
24. Agreed
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 03:11 PM
Dec 2023

Roland Martin did a great job explaining how the George Floyd Act went down.

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Calculating

(3,000 posts)
23. More useful idiots
Sun Dec 17, 2023, 02:57 PM
Dec 2023

The choice is between Biden and American Hitler. They would do well to remember that.

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