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orleans

(36,918 posts)
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 05:11 PM Dec 2023

"BREAKING: Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss have sued Rudy Giuliani for ongoing defamation. They seek damages and an injuncti

BREAKING: Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss have sued Rudy Giuliani for ongoing defamation. They seek damages and an injunction barring him from continuing to defame them.





LINK TO DOCUMENT FILED 12/18/23
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.263084/gov.uscourts.dcd.263084.1.0.pdf

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"BREAKING: Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss have sued Rudy Giuliani for ongoing defamation. They seek damages and an injuncti (Original Post) orleans Dec 2023 OP
Now sue Trump! viva la Dec 2023 #1
My thought exactly, trump used the now famous video during one of his rallies, and mentioned them a few times. Escurumbele Dec 2023 #12
He defamed them in his infamous call to GA officials. The entire recording needs to be listened to. It's so damning. mobeau69 Dec 2023 #14
Exactly. All who participated should be sued long and hard. Maybe they get Mara Lardo? Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #19
+ struggle4progress Dec 2023 #35
Rudy needs to shut up LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #2
'Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.' rubbersole Dec 2023 #5
needs conservatorship Nasruddin Dec 2023 #16
Good for them! StarryNite Dec 2023 #3
The Rude Ghoul really is brain dead, but his mouth keeps spraying shit. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #4
It's like deja vu with EJ Carroll's case. These evil blowhards spooky3 Dec 2023 #6
They never learn malaise Dec 2023 #27
go after hard assets , cars , jets , etc the big stuff. AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #7
Make Rudy have to drive Beachnutt Dec 2023 #18
That can't be an actual photograph COL Mustard Dec 2023 #29
That has to be photoshopped! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #30
Hell, go after the loose change in his sofa cushions, too! lastlib Dec 2023 #20
He has a place for sale on the Upper East Side Kennah Dec 2023 #22
It should be seized. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #31
Good.... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #8
Article Nevilledog Dec 2023 #9
Can they put him in jail if he doesn't pay Tribetime Dec 2023 #10
No. Debtors' prison is a relic of the past. lastlib Dec 2023 #21
No but he can be jailed for contempt dsc Dec 2023 #23
148 million plus another 148 million & punitives for last week. ArkansasDemocrat1 Dec 2023 #11
Giuliani does not contest he made false statements about Fulton election workers struggle4progress Dec 2023 #13
Unfortunately, his alcohol preserved brain is attempting to use Fair Comment as cayugafalls Dec 2023 #34
Link to default judgement struggle4progress Dec 2023 #15
Good malaise Dec 2023 #17
Jail will be the only thing to shut his mouth duckworth969 Dec 2023 #24
He pretty much begged them to do it. dchill Dec 2023 #25
Dupe. dchill Dec 2023 #26
Good for them! COL Mustard Dec 2023 #28
Same judge who presided over Giuliani's $148M verdict will handle his new case LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #32
A summons has been issued for Rudy in the new lawsuit LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #33

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
12. My thought exactly, trump used the now famous video during one of his rallies, and mentioned them a few times.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 06:04 PM
Dec 2023

Also, there is precedence now, it should be a home run because trump did the same as Giuliani.

mobeau69

(12,374 posts)
14. He defamed them in his infamous call to GA officials. The entire recording needs to be listened to. It's so damning.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 06:14 PM
Dec 2023

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
5. 'Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.'
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 05:40 PM
Dec 2023

Alcohol damage + a lifetime of privilege.

spooky3

(38,633 posts)
6. It's like deja vu with EJ Carroll's case. These evil blowhards
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 05:41 PM
Dec 2023

Are sure they won’t be held to account.

Beachnutt

(8,909 posts)
18. Make Rudy have to drive
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 06:34 PM
Dec 2023

up to the courthouse in an old beat up ford ltd.
Tired of seeing these crooks drive up in brand new cadillac escalades or suburbans and step out in 3 piece suit with an escort.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
30. That has to be photoshopped!
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 09:15 PM
Dec 2023

Rudy's not that big around and he's not cone-shaped. Also, he has a neck!

lastlib

(28,264 posts)
20. Hell, go after the loose change in his sofa cushions, too!
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 06:37 PM
Dec 2023

He's gonna need that money before they're done with him, and they'll need to find every dime he has to satisfy their judgment. Put a lien on his wallet. Make him sell his friggin' cigars, too. Clean his clock! He deserves what he's getting.

lastlib

(28,264 posts)
21. No. Debtors' prison is a relic of the past.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 06:40 PM
Dec 2023

But they can levy on everything he'll ever get in the rest of his life. And they should. Best thing he can do for himself (and for the rest of the world, for that matter) is to die quickly.

struggle4progress

(126,153 posts)
13. Giuliani does not contest he made false statements about Fulton election workers
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 06:14 PM
Dec 2023

By David Wickert and Bill Rankin
July 26, 2023

Rudy Giuliani is not contesting accusations that he made false statements about two former Fulton County election workers ... according to a court filing ...

... Giuliani has repeatedly accused election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss of voting fraud. State and federal investigators quickly determined the allegations were false and said so.

Freeman and Moss endured harassment and death threats because of the allegations ... Giuliani said he is not contesting he made false statements about Freeman and Moss.

“The defendant Giuliani, for the purposes of this litigation only, does not contest that, to the extent the statements were statements of fact and otherwise actionable, such actionable statements were false,” Giuliani said in a signed statement attached to the court filing.

But he said the stipulation does not affect his argument that his statements “are constitutionally protected statements or opinion” ...

https://www.ajc.com/politics/giuliani-does-not-contest-he-made-false-statements-about-fulton-election-workers/NNRQUHL7UZDKBG2LY7DGOFZM7U/

cayugafalls

(5,960 posts)
34. Unfortunately, his alcohol preserved brain is attempting to use Fair Comment as
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 12:01 PM
Dec 2023

his argument.

Simply put. Fair comment excludes accusing someone of a crime. Defamation only requires proving that the other party communicated the comments to a third party.

"defamation per se, there are four general categories of false statement that typically support a per se action:[49]

accusing someone of a crime;
alleging that someone has a foul or loathsome disease;
adversely reflecting on a person's fitness to conduct their business or trade; and
imputing serious sexual misconduct."

Wikipedia


Rudy has hit 3 of the 4 nails on the head for this case and it has already been proven and decided.

To continue the argument based on Fair Comment proves that RG is no longer mentally fit for anything more than the stool at his local bar...

duckworth969

(1,349 posts)
24. Jail will be the only thing to shut his mouth
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 07:07 PM
Dec 2023

Not for good if he gets out on bond.

But it’s a start.

COL Mustard

(8,218 posts)
28. Good for them!
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 08:06 PM
Dec 2023

I hope they get another $100M award. Send a message, even if you'll never collect it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
32. Same judge who presided over Giuliani's $148M verdict will handle his new case
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:46 AM
Dec 2023

This will be fun to watch



https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-summons/

A U.S. District Court issued a summons on Tuesday after former election workers Shaye Moss and Ruby Freeman filed a second defamation lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani....

On Tuesday, the case docket showed that the litigation had been assigned to U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell, who presided over a recent verdict where Giuliani was ordered to pay Freeman and Moss $148 million for defamation.

The court also issued a summons for Giuliani.


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