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imanamerican63

(16,177 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 06:41 AM Dec 2023

Interesting facts about Rudy Giuliani's childhood?

According to Giuliani’s Wikipedia page, his father was not a very nice person. Harold Giuliani could not hold down a job for very long. He did some time in Sing Sing for felony battery and robbery. Once he was released from prison, he went to work as a strongman for a local loan shark crime syndicate member.

Well, for all the time that Rudy has said that he fought against crime families, his own father was a part of those very same people!

Just thought that was interesting, especially considering how Rudy’s behavior has become the past several years?

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Interesting facts about Rudy Giuliani's childhood? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Dec 2023 OP
It's interesting how a man's history can warp his path in life Bucky Dec 2023 #1
i've heard it said that what he did was make room for the moscow mafia. mopinko Dec 2023 #15
He might have played a part, but I think Mike Flynn was the main Moscow connection Bucky Dec 2023 #18
Could be relevant NJCher Dec 2023 #2
Just like Christie, when he fucked over teachers and public employees on their pensions. 3Hotdogs Dec 2023 #8
More. no_hypocrisy Dec 2023 #3
Why da hell could anyone want to fuck him? And I bet they wretch every time they see the picture of da 3Hotdogs Dec 2023 #9
Being close to power is an aphrodisiac. no_hypocrisy Dec 2023 #14
Donna Hanover is a nice lady who co-hosted a TV magazine show in Pittsburgh. John1956PA Dec 2023 #16
I remember when I was much younger I would grab... TreasonousBastard Dec 2023 #4
Like Jared's father. tRump's grampa and father were no saints either Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #5
"Trudeau gave tRump a framed photograph of his grandfather's brothel..." Silent3 Dec 2023 #19
Here you are! Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #20
That does it. All of Rudy's crimes should be forgiven and expunged from the records, Goodheart Dec 2023 #6
Yes, like every noted Republican since 1970 - victims, pitiable victims, one and all . . . hatrack Dec 2023 #7
Giuliani learned how to be a thug at home dlk Dec 2023 #10
Rudy has outdone his father. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #11
He grew up w his single mom. IbogaProject Dec 2023 #12
Explains his Trump devotion Red Mountain Dec 2023 #13
K&R for, more daddy issues UTUSN Dec 2023 #17

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
1. It's interesting how a man's history can warp his path in life
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 06:51 AM
Dec 2023

Giuliani going against the mob in his salad days is a pretty inspirational story. It only makes the tragedy of his descent into lackey to a criminal conspiracy against his own country so much more pathetic.

Somewhere along the line, he became so needful of the accolades of power and public, he allowed it to shape his character into something petty, greedy, and bitter. It's Shakespearean and a lot of the same ways that LBJ's story is. Someone who once did so much good ends up doing so much harm that it causes his downfall.

Of course there's also that classic line from the Roseanne show: "The statute of limitations on shitty parenting runs out at about 30"

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
15. i've heard it said that what he did was make room for the moscow mafia.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 10:11 AM
Dec 2023

makes sense to me.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
18. He might have played a part, but I think Mike Flynn was the main Moscow connection
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 02:44 PM
Dec 2023

Although some of Trump's connections financially to Russian mobsters have been going on for years through banks in Cyprus and Deutsche Bank. But those were probly more financial than political conduits.

It's a mess. I have to wonder why God even chose Trump to fulfill His plan and bring on the End Times.... #mysteriousways indeed...

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
2. Could be relevant
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 06:55 AM
Dec 2023

I have had conversations over the past few days with people who had to deal with him at City Hall. According to them, even in his glory days of being mayor, he was a prick. He screwed over the EMS workers on their pension when they had to join the firefighters union.

He screwed over the teachers, too, but I can’t remember how.

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
8. Just like Christie, when he fucked over teachers and public employees on their pensions.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 08:56 AM
Dec 2023

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
3. More.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:18 AM
Dec 2023

Last edited Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:49 AM - Edit history (1)

Rudy grew up in Brooklyn but refused to root for The Dodgers. He was enamored with the Yankees (Bronx).
Not only did that make him a local contrarian, it made for regular schoolyard and neighborhood fights as a boy.

When mayor, it was an open secret that Rudy was cheating on his wife, Donna Hanover, with Cristyne Lategano-Nicholas, an aide for six years in the Nineties. (Hanover even referred to her by implication.) Judith Nathan was on the scene by 9/11.

And Rudy got a lot of ink in local NYC papers for kicking out Yasser Arafat from Lincoln Center for a concert to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the United Nations in 1995.

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
9. Why da hell could anyone want to fuck him? And I bet they wretch every time they see the picture of da
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 09:01 AM
Dec 2023

Shinola, running down his face and recall their steamy nights in the "Hotel No-tell."

Running through their heads --- "I can't believe I actually did that."

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
14. Being close to power is an aphrodisiac.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 09:42 AM
Dec 2023

And this was when he was in his 40s and pushing a combover.

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
16. Donna Hanover is a nice lady who co-hosted a TV magazine show in Pittsburgh.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 10:20 AM
Dec 2023

Back in the late 1970s, I enjoyed watching "Evening Magazine" on Pittsburgh's KDKA. The 30-minute program ran Monday-Friday in the 7:00 PM time slot. The co-hosts were Donna Hanover and Dave Durian. After Ms. Hanover left for NYC, Liz Miles took over her spot on the show. That was the era after the FCC cut the evening prime-time programing hours to three, and stations were encouraged to fill their early evening time slots with locally produced shows

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. I remember when I was much younger I would grab...
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:26 AM
Dec 2023

a hero on Anne St. and have lunch in City Hall Park.

When Ed Koch was Mayor, he would have celebrations on City Hall steps. I still remember fondly the day he gave Keys to the City to Dolly Parton and she bowled him over by doing an impromptu set on the steps.

Those were the days.

Don't even think about the armed camp Rudy set up there.

Some other time I'll mention Rudy's war on ferrets.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
5. Like Jared's father. tRump's grampa and father were no saints either
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:55 AM
Dec 2023

Brothel from grampa and KKK rally for father.

Trudeau gave tRump a framed photograph of his grandfather's brothel in the Yukon while tRump was president.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
19. "Trudeau gave tRump a framed photograph of his grandfather's brothel..."
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 04:31 PM
Dec 2023

I love this! That's trolling Trump at its finest.

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
6. That does it. All of Rudy's crimes should be forgiven and expunged from the records,
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 08:26 AM
Dec 2023

and all his civil debts should be extinguished. He's a victim.

hatrack

(64,889 posts)
7. Yes, like every noted Republican since 1970 - victims, pitiable victims, one and all . . .
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 08:32 AM
Dec 2023

dlk

(13,247 posts)
10. Giuliani learned how to be a thug at home
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 09:04 AM
Dec 2023

This history has colored his behavior his entire life.

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
12. He grew up w his single mom.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 09:35 AM
Dec 2023

They lived in an upper east side walk up. Due to this curiously his administration was tenant friendly, possibly the only decent thing he ever publicly did. That shifted drastically when Bloomberg came in.

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