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Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 10:42 AM Dec 2023

Cops recover second sex video involving scandal-plagued Moms for Liberty leader

Police have reportedly recovered a second sex video involving Bridget Ziegler, a leader of the Moms for Liberty group that is dedicated to banning books that purportedly contain sexually explicit content from schools.

The Florida Trident reports that police recovered the video while investigating rape accusations against her husband, Christian Ziegler, who earlier this month was suspended from his role as Florida Republican Party chairman.

Sources tell the Florida Trident that the new video involves the Moms for Liberty leader "engaging in sexual relations with a woman," although it's not known at this point whether it's with the same woman who accused her husband of raping her.

"In response to a specific public record request for that video, the Sarasota Police Department on Thursday asserted the video was exempt from disclosure due to the ongoing criminal investigation," writes the Trident. "The video, according to sources, was obtained by police after a search warrant was executed on Christian Ziegler’s cell phone and Google account in November to recover evidence in connection with the alleged rape."

https://www.rawstory.com/bridget-ziegler/

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Cops recover second sex video involving scandal-plagued Moms for Liberty leader (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Dec 2023 OP
Naughty, naughty holier than thou??? GreenWave Dec 2023 #1
Waiting for her PornHub Channel to open. 😜 TheBlackAdder Dec 2023 #38
I was just wondering how long it would take for these to hit the porn webs. paleotn Dec 2023 #67
"Holy" has NOTHING to do with it. calimary Dec 2023 #39
Nothing says "Liberty" moniss Dec 2023 #56
But those holes could be "air tight"... Xolodno Dec 2023 #61
Hmmm... Mike Nelson Dec 2023 #2
Moms for Libertines. tanyev Dec 2023 #3
I liked Moms for Libertines 3 and 5 Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #8
I agree. Hugin Dec 2023 #21
Mom's for 3 Ways WA-03 Democrat Dec 2023 #24
edited... cayugafalls Dec 2023 #4
I don't see it that way. yardwork Dec 2023 #6
+1 Emile Dec 2023 #7
OK, your most likely right, however there have been instances of R's caught up in this cayugafalls Dec 2023 #9
No apology necessary. yardwork Dec 2023 #10
Thank you for that perspective MutantAndProud Dec 2023 #14
Yes, that's it exactly! yardwork Dec 2023 #17
With Some Types, Ma'am, It Comes With A Twist The Magistrate Dec 2023 #19
I wish I were as kind and compassionate as you, Your Worship. Glorfindel Dec 2023 #53
It is hypocrisy when they are publicly condemning in others the very actions they, themselves, are engaged in in secret. Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #63
People like them relish in ruining other people's lives hadEnuf Dec 2023 #65
That's a great take on this situation. I don't know ... Whiskeytide Dec 2023 #20
Agree DENVERPOPS Dec 2023 #49
correct Skittles Dec 2023 #50
It could be pathology or they are just simple con artists. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #51
Nailed it orangecrush Dec 2023 #64
She can't be "obviously bisexual" if she's a lesbian. Need to get your terms straight - or avoid using Martin68 Dec 2023 #26
if I offended you, my apologies. cayugafalls Dec 2023 #30
Some people living in sexually repressive cultures become very twisted... hunter Dec 2023 #29
Kick dalton99a Dec 2023 #5
so much for the moral majiority and family values . AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #11
The moral majority is neither..I used to have a button that said that Deuxcents Dec 2023 #32
my late mom said something simalar to that . the moral majority is either and neither and pat robertson sr does not r AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #35
The sticker of it on my car ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #42
many years ago i listened to an pirate shortwave radio station called radio newyork international AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #59
"moral majority" angrychair Dec 2023 #57
Isnt that against the law in florida? getagrip_already Dec 2023 #12
Maybe they are auditioning to be Trump's VP? gab13by13 Dec 2023 #13
People who feel... 2naSalit Dec 2023 #15
Maybe she & Melania can go into the porn movie biz together. area51 Dec 2023 #16
+1 dalton99a Dec 2023 #18
The repugs and magats like to call the pics Mel posed for "Art", but any other pics of Ziggysmom Dec 2023 #27
I remember how they savaged Robert Mapplethorpe for his art. JoseBalow Dec 2023 #45
Will Marge have the tape put into the congressional record Canoe52 Dec 2023 #22
Marge is a cheater herself MontanaMama Dec 2023 #33
Ohhh, yeah, some big blown up photgraphs of Bridget Ziegler doin that thang!! Leghorn21 Dec 2023 #52
Two Moms and a Hubby for Liberty keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #23
Can'twait for the next Old Crank Dec 2023 #25
Moms for Liberty...one stop shopping! 😂 LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #28
+1 dalton99a Dec 2023 #31
Complimentary refreshments at the back of the room JoseBalow Dec 2023 #46
To resolve the above issues, I will need to watch PCIntern Dec 2023 #34
It turns out that the Ziegler's are also advocating... Hugin Dec 2023 #37
"I'll give you a full report on it" JoseBalow Dec 2023 #47
I'm willing to bet... Hugin Dec 2023 #36
So, when they say they're for liberty... Baitball Blogger Dec 2023 #40
Why link to clickbait filth like Raw Story ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #41
LOL, LOL, LOL! hay rick Dec 2023 #43
But wait . . . MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #44
Yea, but what about Hunter's laptop? ;) Chainfire Dec 2023 #48
Now From K-Tel!!!! Just in Time for That Last Minute moniss Dec 2023 #54
When Bridget was with the other woman, was hubby watching like Jerry Falwell Jr? keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #55
Delicious Irony ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #58
Building up their Only Fans clientele? n/t TygrBright Dec 2023 #60
MFLILF Kaleva Dec 2023 #62
A video on his cellphone??? Grins Dec 2023 #66
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #68
Fox News commentator offer in 3...2...1... gulliver Dec 2023 #69
MILFS for Liberty lame54 Dec 2023 #70

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
67. I was just wondering how long it would take for these to hit the porn webs.
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 10:11 AM
Dec 2023

I'm sure at least one cop will make a few bucks leaking them.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
21. I agree.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 12:05 PM
Dec 2023

I am relieved they seem to be moving away from the bass. It seemed too campy.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
6. I don't see it that way.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 11:04 AM
Dec 2023

I'm a lesbian, and my perspective is that these people get off on living a "bad" secret life while simultaneously living a "good" bossy life.

She might be gay or bi, but I don't think that's really the issue. The issue is that she and her husband have this weird obsession with bossing around everybody else when it comes to sex, and then engaging in private sex that prudes consider "bad." That's a pathology.

cayugafalls

(5,960 posts)
9. OK, your most likely right, however there have been instances of R's caught up in this
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 11:09 AM
Dec 2023

behavior and it ended badly. All I was saying.

I always want to err on the side of compassion. My apologies.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
10. No apology necessary.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 11:11 AM
Dec 2023

I didn't take your post as an insult, although I appreciate your sensitivity to that!

They do deserve compassion for their mental health issues but they cause so much harm it's hard to be sympathetic...

 

MutantAndProud

(855 posts)
14. Thank you for that perspective
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 11:26 AM
Dec 2023

As a gay person I’ve encountered people like that in similar situations and agree with you, when it it a crime and pathological you can still sympathize with their mental health struggle that led them to commit the offenses but they are still offenses when they meet the definition (the gay/lgbtq identity is actually fairly irrelevant, merely controversial in parties/states that don’t like to acknowledge or accept it, it would be the same with straight offenders in a parallel situation with some other aspect).

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
19. With Some Types, Ma'am, It Comes With A Twist
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 12:01 PM
Dec 2023

Knowing themselves lost in the pit, they hope to save others from succumbing as they have done.

It's not quite hypocrisy, and presents as self-sacrifice, ludicrous as that might seem to people more at ease with being human.


"When you're not feeling holy, your loneliness says that you've sinned."



Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
53. I wish I were as kind and compassionate as you, Your Worship.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:07 PM
Dec 2023

Quoting Leonard Cohen is just icing on the cake. I loved the Judy Collins version:
"We weren't lovers like that, and besides, it would still be all right."

Ms. Toad

(38,637 posts)
63. It is hypocrisy when they are publicly condemning in others the very actions they, themselves, are engaged in in secret.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 10:06 PM
Dec 2023

In a twisted way I could buy self-sacrifice IF they are upfront about their own fall into the pit, so to speak. But it's not self-sacrifice unless they acknowledge what it is that they are sacrificing.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
65. People like them relish in ruining other people's lives
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 11:50 PM
Dec 2023

while laughing and doing whatever they want.

The only sacrifices happening are the people they are persecuting. They are viscous phonies with no morals.

Whiskeytide

(4,656 posts)
20. That's a great take on this situation. I don't know ...
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 12:01 PM
Dec 2023

… if she’s an emotionally damaged person wrestling with conflicted feelings, or if she’s an asshole who feels above reproach and simply likes to inflict suffering on others. Perhaps it’s most likely she’s somewhere in between. And I guess that warrants both empathy and criticism.

But as another poster commented, it’s hard sometimes to be empathetic to someone who has done so much damage.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
49. Agree
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 05:30 PM
Dec 2023

I could care less what sexual adventures they take part in, what I can't stand is the Hypocrisy......Them telling everyone else to be puritanical..........

The most defining trait in the Republican Party is their flagrant, blatant, Hypocrisy.....Always has been and always will be.
And, of course, lying about everything..............

Skittles

(171,710 posts)
50. correct
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 06:38 PM
Dec 2023

these people routinely judge the morals of others while expecting everyone to respect their "privacy" - the hypocrisy is off the charts

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
51. It could be pathology or they are just simple con artists.
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:03 PM
Dec 2023

They don't really care what people do in their bedrooms, they are just engaging in a con to make money
and get attention. Which is a pathology of course, but not some deep unconscious issues about their sexuality.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
26. She can't be "obviously bisexual" if she's a lesbian. Need to get your terms straight - or avoid using
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 12:58 PM
Dec 2023

the term “obviously."

hunter

(40,690 posts)
29. Some people living in sexually repressive cultures become very twisted...
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 01:03 PM
Dec 2023

... and not in a good way.

AllaN01Bear

(29,490 posts)
35. my late mom said something simalar to that . the moral majority is either and neither and pat robertson sr does not r
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 01:28 PM
Dec 2023

represent me.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
42. The sticker of it on my car
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 02:26 PM
Dec 2023

Got my car vandalized. The scumbag pigs were *not* sympathetic and treated me like I was the criminal, even implied that I did the damage myself, since I 'obviously' had an unhealthy need for attention.

They regretted that after Mum sicced her attorney on them.

AllaN01Bear

(29,490 posts)
59. many years ago i listened to an pirate shortwave radio station called radio newyork international
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 08:43 PM
Dec 2023

(rny) during election time , they offered a very bold purple with their call sign and a pic of their radio ship and on the back it read in big bold letters , dont vote republican. i wore that shirt out.i guess i was a target but it wasnt as volitioe as it is today.

angrychair

(12,284 posts)
57. "moral majority"
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 08:30 PM
Dec 2023

Reminds me of the Robin Williams movie "The Birdcage" when the Republican senator (played by Gene Hackman) mentor and founder of the "moral majority" died while having sex with a under age black girl.

These people have no morals to speak of anyway.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
12. Isnt that against the law in florida?
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 11:15 AM
Dec 2023

Not the actual lesbian sex part, that turns them on.

The part where you expose a pious gop politician for hypocritical acts. That isn't allowed.

Ziggysmom

(4,123 posts)
27. The repugs and magats like to call the pics Mel posed for "Art", but any other pics of
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 12:59 PM
Dec 2023

Lesbian or LGBTQ women together shameful and immoral. The hypocrisy is insane.

Canoe52

(2,963 posts)
22. Will Marge have the tape put into the congressional record
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 12:15 PM
Dec 2023

along with the pics of Hunters junk she already put there? /s

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
52. Ohhh, yeah, some big blown up photgraphs of Bridget Ziegler doin that thang!!
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:07 PM
Dec 2023

Let's go, Rep Greene!! Geese, ganders, etc, hop to!!

PCIntern

(28,366 posts)
34. To resolve the above issues, I will need to watch
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 01:27 PM
Dec 2023

the video multiple times.

“These threads are useless without pictures.”

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
36. I'm willing to bet...
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 01:40 PM
Dec 2023

That everyone, including the UPS delivery driver, who is even remotely associated with the “investigation” in Sarasota has seen that video.

So why not us? We’re surely still subjected to Bridget’s hypocrisy on a daily basis.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
54. Now From K-Tel!!!! Just in Time for That Last Minute
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:52 PM
Dec 2023

Christmas Gift. Maybe we can order them in VHS

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
55. When Bridget was with the other woman, was hubby watching like Jerry Falwell Jr?
Fri Dec 22, 2023, 07:53 PM
Dec 2023

Is that a Christian thing or a republican thing?

Grins

(9,459 posts)
66. A video on his cellphone???
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 01:45 AM
Dec 2023

He didn’t delete it after his first arrest?

Oh. I seen. A Republican….

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