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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTired of hearing let the voters decide
When I hear or read that the voters should decide, they are gambling MY rights away when there is a clear law forcing the system to prevent those who violate their oath of office or was found "in court of law" to be an Insurrectist.
If they took arms or support against the United States, then they should never have any doings with the United States, that should include pensions.
14th amendment is quite clear, its for preservation of the United States from those who tried to hurt or Nation.
So next time you hear someone says they should let the voters decide, replied back, they tried to take your vote away on Jan 6 and they lost they rights after that.
Mister Ed
(6,765 posts)Should the people in your town hold a vote to decide whether the law should be enforced against this individual or that?
Of course not. The law's the law, and the courts are where questions about it are settled.
Beartracks
(14,258 posts)Rule of law was set up to protect us from both the whims of leaders AND the whims of the crowd. The latter is why we're not a "direct democracy" that votes on everything every day, but rather a "representative democracy" that is supposed to respect said rule of law.
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Simeon Salus
(1,540 posts)We go to court with the law we have, not with the law the next election imposes.
SilverDawg
(883 posts)Say the voters DID decide and the loser sought to deny the will of the voters by violently disrupting a Constitutional process. If we are indeed a nation of laws, its now time for a jury to decide.
Ohioboy
(3,841 posts)He tried to overturn the election he lost by lying. It got him disqualified from holding office again. That should be the end of the story.
Beartracks
(14,258 posts)Same as when the Republicans stole President Obama's supreme Court nomination with that same excuse. The voters HAD ALREADY DECIDED they wanted Obama as President, fulfilling those duties for the full length of his term.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)For fucks sake. Keep up media. Why in the hell do you think we are here? Do they think it would be okay for a Dem to have done what that Orange sub human did and face zero consequences.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)He makes them money
KS Toronado
(22,526 posts)Bev54
(13,103 posts)the decision of the voters. So he should just be allowed to repeat his crime, that is ridiculous.
TNNurse
(7,472 posts)when the 14th amendment was added already decided. They put it in the Constitution.
Wonder Why
(6,448 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)GoodRaisin
(10,669 posts)Ignore the obvious. Let partisan assholes decide if he did what we all saw him do.
AncientOfDays
(250 posts)... 12 voters decide.
lastlib
(27,309 posts)Should we "let the voters decide" if a 21-year-old should be president? Should we "let the voters decide" if a Russian should be president? (wait, they did that in 2016....)
Answer: NO. The Constitutional command is UNAMBIGUOUS, so there is NOTHING for voters to decide. Insurrectionists are NOT qualified for any office under the United States.
kacekwl
(8,831 posts)Let the Electoral college decide letting the people decide is moot.
Irish_Dem
(78,673 posts)One who is powerful.
Polybius
(21,298 posts)The referendums on choice all passed. Voters all decided it.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)Its a right that voters should have no right to take away. Its only because of the shitty SC decision that were having to put it up to a vote. But its not right.
Wounded Bear
(63,649 posts)but, yeah, how about we "let the justice system decide" regarding all of the indictments against?
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,900 posts)Like a bad case of herpes, he just keeps flaring up.
Takket
(23,398 posts)immunity from prosecution. otherwise every single murderer could just run for office and say "let the voters decide"
D23MIURG23
(3,136 posts)Then it'll be their "1st amendment right" to steal the election and incite rebellion again.
We need harsher penalties for treason.