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BREAKING: First part of Epstein contact list released (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2023 OP
They are almost unreadable. Is that the point? niyad Dec 2023 #1
This is the document that exists brooklynite Dec 2023 #3
I realize that. It just does not seem to live up to expectations. niyad Dec 2023 #7
I don 't tend to start with expectations. brooklynite Dec 2023 #9
You are a regular Vulcan Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #23
No, just a realist. brooklynite Dec 2023 #24
try PDF format to read vapor2 Dec 2023 #8
Journalists will likely transcribe it LeftInTX Dec 2023 #13
Lots of "Epstein, +1Male, +1 Male" etc Docreed2003 Dec 2023 #2
I looked at a few pages. A lot of initials. former9thward Dec 2023 #4
And, lots of first names only. Quakerfriend Dec 2023 #5
Hard to read, but I saw Trumps name at least 5 times ismnotwasm Dec 2023 #6
There are a few redactions in the later logs. LudwigPastorius Dec 2023 #10
118 pages, and hand-written... RockRaven Dec 2023 #11
What's the point of these? Johnny2X2X Dec 2023 #12
The first Trump entry is on page 27 jmowreader Dec 2023 #14
I'm not surprised that he flew around rich and famous people. GoCubsGo Dec 2023 #22
So the list is just brettdale Dec 2023 #15
Can they subpoena the pilot? Bluesaph Dec 2023 #16
Subpoena him for what reason? former9thward Dec 2023 #17
For goodness sake, just release all of them clearly! EllieBC Dec 2023 #18
the only thing that'll get newdayneeded Dec 2023 #19
wonder whose names have been redacted - pp. 115... harumph Dec 2023 #20
A lot of Elvis Presley and John Smith. sarcasmo Dec 2023 #21
Elvis? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2023 #27
Unreadable Rebl2 Dec 2023 #25
the judge called them associates bigtree Dec 2023 #26
use your zoom option on your browser and select zoom in. AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #28
Not a contact list. His contact list (little black book) released long ago. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #29

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
2. Lots of "Epstein, +1Male, +1 Male" etc
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 11:35 PM
Dec 2023

Not surprising in the least that Epstein would keep records vague.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
4. I looked at a few pages. A lot of initials.
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 11:41 PM
Dec 2023

I saw Donald Trump, his wife Marla, Senator George Mitchell, Senator John Glenn, a bunch of "one male" or "one female" or various initials of who knows who. Bill Clinton shows up twice on page 91 along with Niomi Campbell. One entry with 3 Secret service agents and one with 10 agents.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
6. Hard to read, but I saw Trumps name at least 5 times
Sun Dec 24, 2023, 11:53 PM
Dec 2023

Which is kinda interesting
Edit..also Alan Dershowitz at least a couple of times

Edit again, that 1 male or 1 female crap is creepy. At some point someone brought their baby. At least I hope it was just a visit

Edit : Bill Clinton along with Naomi Campbell, Kevin Spacey

LudwigPastorius

(15,006 posts)
10. There are a few redactions in the later logs.
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 12:34 AM
Dec 2023

Are those underaged victims or something else entirely?

RockRaven

(19,754 posts)
11. 118 pages, and hand-written...
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 12:58 AM
Dec 2023

I think I will let some miserable journalist slog through the list, and read about what they say they found a couple days from now.

jmowreader

(53,395 posts)
14. The first Trump entry is on page 27
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 02:50 AM
Dec 2023

Note to all: you can download this as a PDF. Do that. It's easier to work with.

In the early pages Itzhak Perlman and his wife appear a few times.

Page 32 has a couple entries for Senator George Mitchell.

Page 43 (dated 1996) lists John Glenn and Alan Dershowitz. Glenn went once, Dershowitz three times.

On page 96 there's an entry where he took Bill Clinton to the Azores. However, that flight was on a Boeing 727, not Epstein's Gulfstream II.

Very strange log. Looks like the guy was flying a who's who of rich people around.

GoCubsGo

(35,000 posts)
22. I'm not surprised that he flew around rich and famous people.
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 06:14 PM
Dec 2023

Sometimes it's just about access to rich and famous people, for whatever reason. There's a good chance he was flying some of these people around in order to try to paint an air of respectability. If people see you giving Bill Clinton a free ride to the Azores to do some work with his charity foundation, they're going to look at you as a good guy, not as a sex trafficker.

 

brettdale

(12,748 posts)
15. So the list is just
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 03:01 AM
Dec 2023

People who visited his island and nothing about which of them raped underage girls.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
17. Subpoena him for what reason?
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 10:24 AM
Dec 2023

The case is already over. This is just evidence being released since it is over.

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
18. For goodness sake, just release all of them clearly!
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 12:46 PM
Dec 2023

Not you, OP. I mean the person holding all the names.

Will it cause a meltdown on all sides? Probably. Lots of politicians and celebs doing shit they shouldn’t be doing? Very very likely.

So what. Let it out. Let’s know who is human garbage now.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
26. the judge called them associates
Mon Dec 25, 2023, 06:49 PM
Dec 2023

..the trend has been to make them all out to be clients.

Here, the use of 'contacts' looks to be a similar effort to tag them with the worst of what Epstein was accused of.

I recall that he was a consultant in early 80's recovering stolen money for clients from fraudulent brokers and lawyers. He was deep in a business relationship with Saudi Arabian defense contractor Adnan Khashoggi.

He spent time after that as a corporate vulture, much like Mitt Romney.

Point is, many of these 'associates' may well have had nefarious business dealings with Epstein and had no knowledge of his pimp work, but that's not what the build-up to this list is about.

It's going to be more of a vehicle for innuendo and guilt by association of the worst he was accused of, however well deserved, than revelations about involvement in sex trafficking, which most folks hanging on the revealing of this list are looking to make out of it.

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