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An IDF fighter who was seriously injured two weeks ago died on Tuesday after being infected by a dangerous fungus found in the soil of the Gaza Strip, Reshet Bet Radio reported. The fungus has infected ten other fighters.
The deceased fighter arrived with serious injuries to his limbs at Asuta Hospital in Ashdod, where they identified that he had been infected with treatment-resistant fungi. The doctors tried every possible treatment, including experimental treatments from abroad, and brought in every specialist they could, but in the end, the fungus invaded vital organs in the soldiers body and he died.
Rahav noted that the Association for Infectious Diseases is troubled by the number of resistant bacteria and infections found in soldiers who were wounded in the Gaza Strip. All the hospitals are reporting that soldiers return from the battlefield with resistant infections. We see them mainly in limb injuries, fungal infections, and resistant bacterial infections.
We know that Gaza is saturated with highly resistant bacteria. This information was accumulated in studies we did in the past with doctors from Gaza, and we also know these bacteria in children who were transferred for treatment in Israel from Gaza hospitals.
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/idf/idf-soldier-dies-of-treatment-resistant-gaza-fungus-10-more-infected/2023/12/26/
ColinC
(11,098 posts)David__77
(24,859 posts)Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Along with a bunch that never happened.
Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Why do you think they wouldn't lie about that?
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)worthy of consideration and sympathy in the face of disease, not to mention as humans who should be allowed to live lives free from apartheid and genocide and the destruction of their towns and homes.
Maraya1969
(23,564 posts)David__77
(24,859 posts)Antimicrobial-resistant infections have been a huge problem in Gaza for years, he said, because of the use of unsuitable antibiotics or patients failure to complete courses of treatment due to drug shortages.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-soldier-with-fungal-infection-dies-fears-grow-of-gaza-diseases-spreading-into-israel/amp/
LeftInTX
(34,852 posts)In fact, you can obtain them OTC in Mexico. My friend was gonna get me some amoxicillin, but I forget to give her some cash.
This can lead to people having a stock at home (Like we do with Tylenol), taking them for a short time (like for a few days) or taking them when you don't need them, and then stopping them.
Antibiotic resistance is common in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen war zones.
Then there is sewage toxins in Gaza and ugly stuff in the soil that is brought up from blasts. Sandy soil is the best filtering soil, but I guess underneath all soils toxins accumulate. I live where it is mostly clay and the soil becomes more anaerobic at a certain depth. You have bombing craters that are bringing up toxins that have filtered down. Then you have heavy metals from munitions. Then you have sewage, which once again has toxins. All this makes any antimicrobial work harder.
https://www.quora.com/Why-arent-antibiotics-available-over-the-counter-in-the-US-but-they-are-in-other-countries
Antibiotics are often available OTC in developing countries. (Asia, ME, Latin America and Africa) I know they're dirt cheap to purchase in Mexico.
womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)Some of the Palestinians who are now living in tents in Southern Gaza have like 2 toilets for hundreds of people & the population now has bloody diarrhea, scabbies, hepatitis , lice, jaundice, kidney disease, upper respiratory disease, food poisoning, UTIs , etc.. The people have no way to bathe & no access to toilets & antibiotics says UN. People with bloody diarrhea just going in the streets or wherever.
This could actually cause some new world diseases.
More info at:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/middleeast/gaza-diseases-spread-what-we-know-intl/index.html
brush
(61,033 posts)bombings stirring it all ulp, people living on top of each other breathing all that mess in...Gaza has to be the unheatlhiest place in the world righ now. And all the airborne toxicity won't stay withing the borders of Gaza.
Look out Israel, the West Bank, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and all the surrounding countries.
womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)Pumping stations ran out of fuel and sewage ran down the streets of northern Gaza. So the soil is contaminated with sewage.
COL Mustard
(8,386 posts)If this isn't biowar on the part of Hamas.
JustAnotherGen
(38,109 posts)Who knows what Iran, and Russia via Iran has supplied the terrorists with.
Orrex
(67,390 posts)David__77
(24,859 posts)womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)All forced to go South by Israel - and Becoming the most crowded place on earth ever - and having no access to water or toilets. Maybe Israel bombing all but a few hospitals might be contributing & barely letting food, water and medical supplies in - plus Israel is big on killing doctors, nurses, Red Cross workers, UN staff & ambulance drivers.
WhiteTara
(31,279 posts)womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)Along with their children & many members of their families.
WhiteTara
(31,279 posts)LeftInTX
(34,852 posts)womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)Gazas open prison is 25 miles long - Now that they are forced south, are these 2 million people now living in an area of 10 miles by 5 miles???
womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)Dec 4 - when the system in northern Gaza stopped - feces ran down the streets contaminating buildings, roads, soil. Some Israeli injured IDF soldiers have Klebsiella bacteria among other bacterial and fungus strains. Klebsiella is fine if it stays in your intestines but deadly in an open wound.
What Is Klebsiella Pneumoniae? From WebMD
Klebsiella pneumoniae are a common type of bacteria found in your intestines . They are normally harmless. But Klebsiella pneumoniae can be dangerous if they get into other parts of your body, especially if youre already sick. They can turn into superbugs that are very hard to fight with antibiotics. The germs can give you pneumonia, infect your wound or blood, and cause other serious problems.
Oneironaut
(6,320 posts)You have dead bodies everywhere (human and other animals). Theres stagnant water everywhere baking in the sun and multiplying bacteria and fungus. Societies without adequate sewage systems or garbage disposal compound these issues.
Modern society is very removed from the concept of one small cut on your finger leading to a life-threatening bacterial or fungal infection. Not having mass casualties from disease in armies is a relatively new phenomenon.
brush
(61,033 posts)like "valley fever" or other infectious, airborne diseases. This fucking war just keeps getting worse.
Now it's not just bombs and bullets killing people on both sides.
womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)So no pumping stations working and feces streamed down the streets of northern Gaza.
Turbineguy
(40,209 posts)David__77
(24,859 posts)Turbineguy
(40,209 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)Autumn
(49,019 posts)I imagine years of being kept in an open air crowded prison there would be a lot of bacteria there. And more
womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)He might also contribute to some new diseases that do in the whole world.
womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)Plus- injured IDF soldiers are bringing the fungus into Israel hospitals.
PufPuf23
(9,943 posts)War-related infections probably not so great for civilians and children wounded in Gaza too.
But worry about infections from Palestine babies in Israeli hospitals.
Autumn
(49,019 posts)limbicnuminousity
(1,416 posts)Though the article doesn't identify the fungal pathogen, there are at least two candidates that would have potential implications beyond Gaza.
One is Candida aureus, some strains of which are resistant to common anti-fungal medications. It can cause life-threatening complications and is on the uptick globally (yes, in North America too). It's often found in waste water and sewage contaminated soils like you'll find in an urban war zone. Or maybe ghettoized urban tenements. Or urban areas where the instruments of governance no longer function at a necessary threshold. Or homeless encampments without reliable access to public utilities.
The second would be Valley Fever/coccidioidomycosis. Its prevalence hasn't changed much. It appears to be commonly associated with contaminated soils. It was endemic to the American Southwest, but appears to be expanding into the American Southeast. The alarming possibility there is that Valley Fever can cause chronic conditions and reduce life expectancy by 5-10 years.
The odds for survival following infection by either agent are dramatically improved through prompt access to quality medical care. During wartime, soldiers are unlikely to prioritize medical care when it only starts out with a sniffle and there's a war going on. I genuinely worry about the long term effects of contagion for all of the people living in that part of the world.
I also worry about the US (and the rest of the industrialized world). Pestilence arises when we ignore the fact that people are living in subhuman conditions. Contagion spreads when insufficient resources are devoted to community health care. Priorities matter.
harumph
(3,414 posts)thank you.
mainer
(12,579 posts)I would think aspergillosis is a more likely problem. Its theorized also to be the culprit in King Tuts curse, which caused the deaths of several people who excavated in the Valley of the Kings.
limbicnuminousity
(1,416 posts)Aspergillosis is definitely plausible. Personally....epidemiology is NOT my specialty...I'm just not sure about Valley Fever. It seems plausible based on the conditions, but I'm not aware of specific reports of Valley Fever in or around Israel. Aspergillosis as well as Candida aureus are highly plausible candidates for whatever affected the soldiers.
Valley Fever...that's an intuitive leap and it may be a leap too far. My reasons for looking twice at VF:
1) coccidiodomycosis is on the uprise and spreading through the lower half of the US.
2) the early symptoms are easy to ignore, which lines up with what we know about the IDF soldiers.
3) fungal diseases sporadically occur outside of their regular zone of distribution and there is a LOT of American technology and military ordnance in and around Israel.
I hope you're right about Aspergillosis and thank you for pointing out the statistical probability.
womanofthehills
(11,032 posts)Maru Kitteh
(32,010 posts)such as India where you have people living in highly concentrated areas serve as nurseries for more efficient and sturdy organisms.
We are most decidedly not the "top" of the food chain.
brush
(61,033 posts)or any of the other explosives dropped by the air strikes?
What a disaster.
gulliver
(14,075 posts)I'm not usually an optimist, but I think the future for Gaza is bright once the chemo is over.
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