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Behind the Aegis

(54,246 posts)
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:39 AM Dec 2023

Pro-Palestinian Protest at Holocaust Museum Sparks Fierce Backlash

Aplanned protest at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., amid the Israel-Hamas war has been canceled after facing fierce backlash.

Doctors Against Genocide (DAG), a nonprofit organization aimed at confronting and preventing genocide by uniting health care professionals in action, took to X, formerly Twitter, on Tuesday to cancel a planned protest at the museum.

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The protest was planned for Thursday as the organization calls for a stop to what it calls the genocide in Gaza. Backlash against the protest was quickly seen across social media as some pointed toward the use of the Holocaust museum to protest the current conflict.

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"The goal of our event was to visit the Holocaust Museum to express our empathy for the horrors of that Genocide," DAG said in a statement on X. "Additionally, we wanted to bring awareness to the ongoing Genocide in Gaza. Our initial communications did not sufficiently convey this, leading to accusations from parties with ill intentions.

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See also: Doctors planned protest against Israel inside US Holocaust Museum
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Pro-Palestinian Protest at Holocaust Museum Sparks Fierce Backlash (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 OP
They don't even admit it's a bad idea, just that they're scared of being further exposed as the absolute pieces of shit tritsofme Dec 2023 #1
These people are such trash JI7 Dec 2023 #2
K&R betsuni Dec 2023 #3
Low life scum of the Earth to even contemplate Raine Dec 2023 #4
Stupid assholes dalton99a Dec 2023 #5
it's getting harder and harder to believe this crap is organic. mopinko Dec 2023 #6
I'm certain this is not organic. yardwork Dec 2023 #11
i guess what i mean is- how long b4 someone follows the money? mopinko Dec 2023 #13
After the 2016 debacle the money was followed back to billionaires. Including Putin. yardwork Dec 2023 #14
yup. i think putler has the most to gain. mopinko Dec 2023 #16
YES!!! AkFemDem Dec 2023 #30
My Guess is Iran and Russia Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #41
The 'Pro-Palestine' Fig-Leaf has Worn Gossamer Thin, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #7
This. How many times does Hamas have to come out and say mcar Dec 2023 #19
Very true. Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #24
Is there any Pro-Palestinian protest that wouldn't elicit harsh backlash? NotVeryImportant Dec 2023 #8
Just out of curiosity, do you approve of this protest? yardwork Dec 2023 #12
Well atreides1 Dec 2023 #27
Well, the poster instructed participants to obtain museum tickets. yardwork Dec 2023 #40
Crickets for a valid Cha Dec 2023 #42
Sure. Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #17
Maybe don't target Jewish spaces because they are Jewish spaces Sympthsical Dec 2023 #25
The "protesters" are fucking Cha Dec 2023 #34
You may have missed what's really going on with these so-called Pro-Palestinian protestors Hekate Dec 2023 #36
One that condemned Hamas and explicitly supported the The Mouth Dec 2023 #43
An highly inappropriate action. An absolutely wrong minded place for a political statement. marble falls Dec 2023 #9
"leading to accusations from parties with ill intentions" Sympthsical Dec 2023 #10
Some animals are more equal than others, though. yardwork Dec 2023 #21
I think about "Bike Karen" often Sympthsical Dec 2023 #26
Ridiculous. Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #15
Fcking idiots mcar Dec 2023 #18
Good. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #20
I almost wish they had tried it. yardwork Dec 2023 #22
I would say this level of stupidity is unbelievable sarisataka Dec 2023 #23
Are these people mentally challenged? AkFemDem Dec 2023 #28
Seriously- are there ring wing agitators in their midst AkFemDem Dec 2023 #29
I see plenty of anti-Semitism here on the left. The Mouth Dec 2023 #33
Exactly.. DSA was out celebrating Cha Dec 2023 #37
That's because the Right is somehow collectively doing the smart thing. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #44
So rotten and stupid it makes you think these protests must be false flags gulliver Dec 2023 #31
Not the place for terrorist sympathizers and genocide advocates to strut their stuff The Mouth Dec 2023 #32
Good. the entire concept of this protest was disingenuous from the beginning and I'm glad they had to cancel it Takket Dec 2023 #35
Well well well JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #38
Showing? It's lit up like the fucking Bat Signal NickB79 Dec 2023 #39

tritsofme

(17,633 posts)
1. They don't even admit it's a bad idea, just that they're scared of being further exposed as the absolute pieces of shit
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:57 AM
Dec 2023

they seem to be.

Raine

(30,565 posts)
4. Low life scum of the Earth to even contemplate
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 06:50 AM
Dec 2023

Last edited Wed Dec 27, 2023, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

doing such a repulsive thing.

mopinko

(70,758 posts)
6. it's getting harder and harder to believe this crap is organic.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 08:33 AM
Dec 2023

the part where they’re attacking black and jewish electeds but not the thugs is bad enough.
but not in my highest hippie head wd i imagine the targets they’re picking.

the smell of bullshit is strong to me, anyway.

yardwork

(62,076 posts)
14. After the 2016 debacle the money was followed back to billionaires. Including Putin.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 12:02 PM
Dec 2023

It's obvious that the overall goal of this disruption is to depress votes for Biden and get Trump back in the White House. I think the entire thing - beginning with HAMAS's attack on October 7 and the immediate global propaganda campaign - has been planned and funded by a group of evildoers that all want Trump back because he's easily manipulated.

Putin, Iran, Republican billionaires, China, etc.

mopinko

(70,758 posts)
16. yup. i think putler has the most to gain.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 12:04 PM
Dec 2023

and is smart enough to know a war in the middle east takes uk out of the headdlines.
plus this shit is so stupid.

AkFemDem

(1,837 posts)
30. YES!!!
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:11 PM
Dec 2023

This has crossed the line from the offensive to the absurd. Someone is egging this on, someone has something to gain- and I don't think it's the diplomatic wing of Hamas. (Putrump... looking at you)

Deep State Witch

(10,653 posts)
41. My Guess is Iran and Russia
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 05:36 PM
Dec 2023

Iran is a major backer of Hamas. So is Russia. Russian information warfare capabilities are well-known, but the Iranian Republican Guards Corps is pretty good at it, too. They're a major regional player.

What drives me crazy is people on the American left sharing memes that - to my educated eye - are generated by propaganda units in either country. I can't really say anything because, well, most people don't know where I used to work and I can't come out on FB or Insta and say so. So I get accused of supporting genocide, or "thinking that I'm smarter than" someone. I just say to them the same thing that I say here - I'm not Team Israel or Team Palestine. I'm Team Both Sides Suck.

The Magistrate

(95,424 posts)
7. The 'Pro-Palestine' Fig-Leaf has Worn Gossamer Thin, Sir
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 09:48 AM
Dec 2023

These are demonstrations by people who support Hamas and its aims.


"The willfully ignorant can't be taught. The stupid can't be reasoned with. The moral cretin can't be rescued."



mcar

(42,712 posts)
19. This. How many times does Hamas have to come out and say
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 12:09 PM
Dec 2023

they want more dead Palestinians and they will never agree to a cease fire until people understand?

Behind the Aegis

(54,246 posts)
24. Very true.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 03:40 PM
Dec 2023

At least the protestors, some, are no longer wearing their "masks", they have ripped the off, tossed them to the ground, and are now proudly thumping their chests whilst screaming, "Come at bro!". And not just the ones in the streets.

yardwork

(62,076 posts)
12. Just out of curiosity, do you approve of this protest?
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 11:16 AM
Dec 2023

Are you saying it's unreasonable for people to object to a protest that was planned for inside the Holocaust museum?

atreides1

(16,175 posts)
27. Well
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:00 PM
Dec 2023

If the plan was to protest inside of the museum, that's just lousy planning and stupid.

Now, if they wanted to stand outside, like the anti-abortion groups did, then I wouldn't have a problem with it!

There have been a few instances of White Supremacists coming to visit the museum...but even though they were obvious about their beliefs... I don't recall any of them creating a situation!

yardwork

(62,076 posts)
40. Well, the poster instructed participants to obtain museum tickets.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 05:35 PM
Dec 2023

So it sounds like they planned to be inside. It's cold in DC, after all.

Elessar Zappa

(14,331 posts)
17. Sure.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 12:05 PM
Dec 2023

But many of these protests turn into hate rallies against Jews so that’s when they’re going to get backlash and called out.

Sympthsical

(9,238 posts)
25. Maybe don't target Jewish spaces because they are Jewish spaces
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 03:46 PM
Dec 2023

This isn't rocket surgery.

And it is increasingly clear to me that while the general tik tok rabble often contain a degree of general ignorance, the organizers do not.

The organizers know very well who and what they're targeting and why.

(And I'll let you in on a secret - the Palestinians are the excuse, not the cause)

Hekate

(91,775 posts)
36. You may have missed what's really going on with these so-called Pro-Palestinian protestors
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 05:00 PM
Dec 2023
Not one word about Trump nor the leadership of the GOP nor GOP Senators and Representatives. Not one protest. Nothing.

Instead they attack Dem allies and innocent bystanders. They attack Biden. They attack public buildings with a Jewish name on. Anyone allied with Democrats they will attack. A creche/ Nativity scene. In Australia, a children’s Christmas charity concert was disrupted. Elderly Civil Rights heroes got a verbal and physical bashing, sending a 90 year old woman to the hospital.

This shit is unacceptable. Like a lot of other DUers, I have participated in many, many protests in my life. Some were local, some were in DC, but all were well-targeted. Noisy, but not a soul was injured and not a building was harmed.

There was a lot of support at DU in the beginning, but the way these protestors are making enemies for themselves, all I can say is I hope that support is eroding fast.

The Mouth

(3,198 posts)
43. One that condemned Hamas and explicitly supported the
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 05:44 PM
Dec 2023

right of Israel to exist.

If someone is trying to end my existence *any* actions I take towards them, or people who support them, are justified.

The peoples who tried to crush Israel in 1948 have no legitimacy.

Sympthsical

(9,238 posts)
10. "leading to accusations from parties with ill intentions"
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 10:26 AM
Dec 2023

"It's not that we're gallopingly stupid - which we are. It's that people noticed."

Why is it increasingly going this way? "We're kind of terrible people, but we didn't think anyone would notice, and how dare people draw attention to our rather loud and public actions."

There's this odd mindset settling into our culture that real life and the internet should work the same way, that these people can be shitty people in public with near total anonymity, and if you do not grant this anonymity, somehow you're the asshole.

I've seen people claiming they were "Doxxed!" for doing things openly on video in public. Like, what? Where in the social contract was it written that the public isn't allowed to notice someone's being a fucking idiot out in the open?

"I cannot believe you're witnessing my poor choices. How can you have done this to me?"

If you're out in public harassing people and others notice, that's the dildo of consequences.

yardwork

(62,076 posts)
21. Some animals are more equal than others, though.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 12:13 PM
Dec 2023

DU routinely cheers when random white people - usually women - get caught on video being condescending or racist, or even just annoying, and are subsequently fired and shamed. THIS doxxing and shaming is "good" because the perps are perceived as entitled, wealthy, and powerful. (The fact that this is not true in some cases gets brushed aside. Nothing is to interfere with killing the witch.)

This particular supposedly grass roots campaign has cleverly replaced a depressingly complicated reality with a Lord of the Rings type dichotomy where the Israelis are stand ins for Sauron and Palestinians are hobbits. Anyone standing up to Sauron must be a good guy, right? So how could you be so mean as to impose consequences on this righteous warrior??

Sympthsical

(9,238 posts)
26. I think about "Bike Karen" often
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 03:49 PM
Dec 2023

And here's the thing.

If you made a Venn diagram of the kind of people who tried to ruin that woman's life and those who are currently running around campuses repeating antisemitic sentiments while insisting their faces and names never be known, you'd not be far from seeing a circle.

Elessar Zappa

(14,331 posts)
15. Ridiculous.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 12:03 PM
Dec 2023

Pro-Palestinian protests are fine if they don’t degenerate into rank anti-Semitism (which they all too often do, unfortunately) but choosing the Holocaust Museum is making obvious their true intentions.

AkFemDem

(1,837 posts)
28. Are these people mentally challenged?
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:07 PM
Dec 2023

Did none of them pause to think, "Hey, this is probably the worst venue possible for this kind of protest, it'll turn off more potential supporters than ot might attract, it'll infuriate Jewish members of congress who hold the war pursestrings, and it'll send the general message that we just absolutely suck as human beings"?

AkFemDem

(1,837 posts)
29. Seriously- are there ring wing agitators in their midst
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:08 PM
Dec 2023

Purposely trying to sow a seismic divide between various democratic factions by egging this kind of shit fuckery on?

The Mouth

(3,198 posts)
33. I see plenty of anti-Semitism here on the left.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:40 PM
Dec 2023

There might be a few, but the dolts who think that Hamas is right and Israel wrong seem to be, unfortunately, more from our side. Every single POS chanting 'from the river to the sea' wishes that the state would have been annihilated in 1948.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
44. That's because the Right is somehow collectively doing the smart thing.
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 06:01 PM
Dec 2023

It only took a minute to ascertain which groups were going to bandwagon this thing. The Right looks to be following Napoleon's observation: “Never interrupt your enemy while he’s making a mistake; it’s bad manners.”

Never doubt, though, that if they had something to gain from attacking Jews - other than gleefully watching the Left fracture - they'd bare their rotten fucking teeth and pounce.

ETA: There's also the third temple shit, wherein the Christians who control modern "conservatism" support "Israel" in part because they believe (incorrectly, of course) that the end-times will lead to the annihilation of the Jews. That looks like Israeli support and is usually, ignorantly, confused with Jewish support.

gulliver

(13,254 posts)
31. So rotten and stupid it makes you think these protests must be false flags
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:15 PM
Dec 2023

But no, it seems they are real. (They are, right?) Blocking roads. Wearing masks. Refusing to fly the flags of the country the protest is in...

The Mouth

(3,198 posts)
32. Not the place for terrorist sympathizers and genocide advocates to strut their stuff
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:37 PM
Dec 2023

Anti-Semites chanting 'From the river to the sea' and denying the right of Israel to exist and defend itself have plenty of places that welcome them (cough, cough President Gay).

Takket

(21,937 posts)
35. Good. the entire concept of this protest was disingenuous from the beginning and I'm glad they had to cancel it
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 04:58 PM
Dec 2023
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