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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:04 PM Dec 2023

Why are Republican's such dicks?

I've posted this headline about a dozen times over the years. But, with every passing day, the answer becomes more obvious.

Today's Republican Party was "born" when Lynden Johnson signed the Civil Rights and Voting Right Acts. Until then, most Southern senators and congresspeople were Democrats. However, they knew that to stay in office, they'd have to publicly become the racist pricks they had always been. So they had to switch to the Republican Party.

As of that era, Republicans have consolidated bigotry, racism, and greed into the Republican core principals.

Ronald Reagan, was able to sell much of the odious Republican agenda because he was an amiable man whom most people liked. And also, because he was an imbecile who could be used by those who understood the true agenda.

In effect, he set the stage for Trump who didn't try to hide anything the Republicans were after. We saw much of it during his term as president.

Now he's back and has, publicly, gone full Adolf. "Vermin," "poison our blood," are not accidental phrases. Trump''s handlers have read "Mein Kampf" and they have made sure that those terms were on the teleprompter from which he was reading. Actually, Trump himself is demented and probably belongs in an institution. But those around him know how to use hatred, bigotry, and cruelty to attract his followers we now call MAGA's.

Can Trump's controllers get him to the White House again? Sure looks possible when you're able to rig enough red and purple states.

But the original question remains. "Why are Republicans such dicks?" Seems that the answer is that most are ignorant people who thrive on hate, bigotry and cruelty and love to see a crazed bully crap all over them. And perhaps, far worse than just "crap on them." As I said, he's gone full Adolf. And we all know what that led to.

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Why are Republican's such dicks? (Original Post) Cyrano Dec 2023 OP
I thought they were pussies! Omnipresent Dec 2023 #1
as a woman, I resent that. Pussies WhiteTara Dec 2023 #6
You do know what a double standard is, right? Omnipresent Dec 2023 #9
are we talking while male privilege? WhiteTara Dec 2023 #10
Are you the white male with that privilege? Omnipresent Dec 2023 #11
no friend, I'm the sin, not the sinner. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #13
Since I haven't gotten my day in court... Omnipresent Dec 2023 #15
tell me of your mark! WhiteTara Dec 2023 #16
I'm glad, i changed the tone of this conversation. Omnipresent Dec 2023 #18
Why don't the two of you go hijack another thread? Cyrano Dec 2023 #20
I didn't hijack anything, Cyrano WhiteTara Dec 2023 #24
Deflection. marble falls Dec 2023 #33
I didn't make that designation WhiteTara Dec 2023 #23
First class whataboutism. marble falls Dec 2023 #32
Some people choose the GOP as cover for their fundamental shittiness. Ocelot II Dec 2023 #2
Well, in their lust for permanent power, their moral justification seems to be, Cyrano Dec 2023 #3
Yes, but the elites would have wanted intellectual cover Ocelot II Dec 2023 #4
I agree. That is what separates the Conservative from the Fascist Caliman73 Dec 2023 #12
same same WhiteTara Dec 2023 #7
I misread the title. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #5
They meet bullies Bmoboy Dec 2023 #8
It"s all about blaming other people SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #14
Some are dicks, some are patsies, some are voting against "wokeness"... gulliver Dec 2023 #17
I still don't have a clue what "woke" means. Cyrano Dec 2023 #21
It used to mean a "good" thing but now it means "too much of a good thing" gulliver Dec 2023 #25
The Republicans Keepthesoulalive Dec 2023 #30
B/c Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey, and no_hypocrisy Dec 2023 #19
Look at the hands, not the yo-yo's C_U_L8R Dec 2023 #22
I put it this way: The Democrats started gettng out of the Klansman Koddling business... JHB Dec 2023 #26
Predators. moondust Dec 2023 #27
Because they all have small dicks and don't know how to give pleasure to women! kimbutgar Dec 2023 #28
While I agree with most of this post, tiredtoo Dec 2023 #29
Wall Street financed Hitler Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #31
History - the Republicans started turning around the 1880's... haele Dec 2023 #34
Fewer people getting punched in the face for being a dick these days. Iggo Dec 2023 #35

WhiteTara

(31,257 posts)
6. as a woman, I resent that. Pussies
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:32 PM
Dec 2023

are strong, can deliver a 10 pound baby, but ball sacks on the other hand? weak. A little tap, and the man is down.

From now on, let's call them what they are ... a bunch of ball sacks.

Omnipresent

(7,429 posts)
18. I'm glad, i changed the tone of this conversation.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 03:10 PM
Dec 2023

Next time, just remember, to be fair to all.
No double standards, one standard will do just fine.

Ocelot II

(130,439 posts)
2. Some people choose the GOP as cover for their fundamental shittiness.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:08 PM
Dec 2023

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” ― John Kenneth Galbraith

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
3. Well, in their lust for permanent power, their moral justification seems to be,
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:26 PM
Dec 2023

through the use of ignorant people, and manipulating them through the use of hatred, bigotry and cruelty.

Galbraith calls this their "... search for a superior moral justification." I don't agree. I think it's the same old story of barbarians who want to own and control everyone and everything through any and all means.

Ocelot II

(130,439 posts)
4. Yes, but the elites would have wanted intellectual cover
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:29 PM
Dec 2023

for why they were selfish, power-hungry barbarians. We still see that, all the time.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
12. I agree. That is what separates the Conservative from the Fascist
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:44 PM
Dec 2023

Conservative elites want the veneer of being civil while the Fascist will deal directly in force and violence. Conservatives always align with Fascists because they have similar core values and Conservatives think that they can control Fascists so that they (Conservatives) can achieve their goals of dominance. The problem always ends up in the Conservative being subsumed, the Fascist going too far and the project ending in disgrace. The Conservative, having learned nothing, simply resets and begins the project anew.

Bmoboy

(641 posts)
8. They meet bullies
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:36 PM
Dec 2023

Sometime in school they run into bullies and decide that is the life for them. No need for facts, just pick on the weakest, cheat, steal, lie.
In my experience bullies get away with their shit most of the time.
Why work hard, study, follow the rules, when you can just be a little better off than somebody.
Like the joke about running from the lion - you don't have to be faster than the lion, just faster than one other person.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,569 posts)
14. It"s all about blaming other people
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:45 PM
Dec 2023

for their problems. It's the fault of people of color, feminists, immigrants, gay people, unions , democrats, etc. They refuse to take responsibility for their own lives.

gulliver

(13,952 posts)
17. Some are dicks, some are patsies, some are voting against "wokeness"...
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 02:58 PM
Dec 2023

It's a mix. Dems are, unfortunately, losing some of our support among racial and ethnic minorities, particularly males. The people we're losing can't all be called ignorant bigots or dicks. It's not productive to call any group that as a broad-brush statement, really.

MAGA extremists colonized and conquered the Republican Party. The Koch Brothers created the Tea Party from Republicans angry at how Dubya had disgraced the Republican Party. Romney then lost. That radicalized the Tea Party types into MAGA types (with help from Trump's able demagoguery).

Our Dems have arguably been colonized (glommed onto, etc.) by a tiny fringe of woke folks whom the media incorrectly identify as Liberals/Progressives. But those folks are a tiny minority in our party (from a one person, one vote, democratic perspective). Their voices are heard, and, in fact, they usually get much more time at the mic than their numbers would democratically justify. But they haven't succeeded in co-opting the party the way the MAGAs have the Republicans.

That means the Dems are in the driver's seat, imo. I'm very happy to see us championing commonsense, bread-and-butter issues and a more class-based, less "identity-based" foundation. Hakeem Jeffries is one of many fantastic people on our side. A lot of good can be done in the world.

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
21. I still don't have a clue what "woke" means.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 03:52 PM
Dec 2023

To me, it's just another meaningless Republican meme that creates a knee-jerk reaction from morons.

gulliver

(13,952 posts)
25. It used to mean a "good" thing but now it means "too much of a good thing"
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 04:52 PM
Dec 2023

"Woke" has, unfortunately, become a kind of synonym for good intentions and, especially, "narcissistically performative" or "phony" or even "grifting" good intentions that increase human misery under the guise of compassion, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

Is it fair that that has become the meaning? Nope. See "life." Maybe it will change back or someone will start a wave of redefinition for it.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,282 posts)
30. The Republicans
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:12 PM
Dec 2023

Have been very successful with identity politics. They have done nothing constructive for this country for years and the majority of white people still vote for them. The people who are feeling the lash of their policies are the ones trying to turn this country around. Abortion, civil rights for all Americans, making billionaires pay their fair share, saving our environment and making sure our children can get a quality education. None of these things are on their agenda. It is not about class or economics it is about hate.

C_U_L8R

(49,351 posts)
22. Look at the hands, not the yo-yo's
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 03:54 PM
Dec 2023

Hate can be quite profitable. But is a lousy longterm strategy. As we see with the GOP's increasing misfortune.

JHB

(38,174 posts)
26. I put it this way: The Democrats started gettng out of the Klansman Koddling business...
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 04:59 PM
Dec 2023

...and the Republicans set up recruiting tables.

moondust

(21,284 posts)
27. Predators.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 05:23 PM
Dec 2023

Them and their big donors. If only they could do away with voting so they wouldn't have to pander to their prey at all.

kimbutgar

(27,234 posts)
28. Because they all have small dicks and don't know how to give pleasure to women!
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 05:55 PM
Dec 2023

Their only power is being asshole dicks!

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
29. While I agree with most of this post,
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:06 PM
Dec 2023

I think tfg has the solid support of 20-30 percent of republicans. Not enough to win the general, should he be the candidate. IMHO he may not make it thru the primaries.
I hope there are still enough sane republicans who see their mistake and do something to correct it. Be it voting for Biden or not voting at all.

Kid Berwyn

(24,299 posts)
31. Wall Street financed Hitler
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 07:29 PM
Dec 2023

After the war, Hitler’s loot and henchmen were welcome to, ah, fight Communism.

DU from 2007:

Know your BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=872755

haele

(15,376 posts)
34. History - the Republicans started turning around the 1880's...
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 09:09 PM
Dec 2023

As some of the 1860 free soil, free man political firebrand types became "self made" millionaire technocrats or financial wizards. These fellows would have been pro-union initially, but accumulating that wealth just became too much of a focus, because being American Royalty during the Gilded Age was just as addictive as being Plantation Royalty was during the Anti-Bellum South.
Theodore Roosevelt had become a political outlier in the Republican Party before he anointed his VP Taft, a supposedly social justice warrior, as his successor. Taft, Cooledge, Harding - they all became part of the Standard Oil/Wall Street machine that helped shepard the nation into the Great Depression with no acceptance of any thought of applying financial foresight or responsibility. By the 1920's, except in a few states, the Republican Party basically became the Party of the Businessman. Any business, or economy in general, was a second consideration after the Businessman and his success.
That's why the New Deal, or anything that could fall into the category of Socialism, was so hated by those who were in charge of the GOP. Eisenhower was pretty much an anomaly, along with the "pro-union/make more money" propaganda they pushed to get returned WWII vets and working class White Men (and women) to support them.
Once the GOP financiers and technocrats got the political takeover of the party they wanted when the Dixiecrats fled the Civil Rights movement, they totally gave up trying to pretend they supported any number of the worker classes or educational opportunities for them to advance except to drive a wedge between various social categories within so there wouldn't be a consolidation of worker groups to advance the New Deal much further.
Play Religions against each other, play the Racist cards, play the Gender cards, play Rural vs Urban, Skilled Labor vs Service vs Professional, Immigrant vs Citizen...anything to make people believe that one's neighbor is someone to hate if they are any bit different.

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