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So when does Nimrata (Original Post) Old Crank Dec 2023 OP
I just feel like we can criticize her without using a name she doesn't identify with as an insult. tritsofme Dec 2023 #1
Thank you. It's not quite "deadnaming" but we don't need racist dogwhistles in our party Bucky Dec 2023 #2
Just following her fellow GOP member Old Crank Dec 2023 #47
Well, you're following the wrong example Bucky Dec 2023 #52
Yeah because PCIntern Dec 2023 #79
You make a strong argument for acting like Republicans Bucky Jan 2024 #80
Do you know why? PCIntern Jan 2024 #81
I agree, sort of like the deliberate way they mispronounce Kamala Walleye Dec 2023 #3
If Nikkki wanted to be authentic IzzaNuDay Dec 2023 #6
. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #8
NH is code switching - Kamala didn't IzzaNuDay Dec 2023 #12
Are you saying people shouldn't code switch? Because that is also a crap take. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #17
I think it's more MurrayDelph Dec 2023 #29
Oh, has Haley spoken out against name preferences? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #36
Haley said the primary reason for teenage girls suicide mountain grammy Dec 2023 #68
Right but has she said anything about names WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #70
Right because that's really what's important here mountain grammy Dec 2023 #73
Not sure how objecting to weaponized bigotry makes her "my girl," but okay WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #75
And so are your Disaffected Dec 2023 #74
She wants to use her given middle name, she can use her given middle name. Igel Dec 2023 #16
Is Beau running for office. Old Crank Dec 2023 #48
She can call herself Eyeball_Kid Dec 2023 #76
Nikki is her name. Caliman73 Dec 2023 #19
Nikki is one of her given names. It's her middle name; it's Punjabi and not anglicized. Ocelot II Dec 2023 #27
Slightly surprised belpejic Dec 2023 #78
"If Nikkki wanted to be authentic Then she would be using her given name" Polybius Dec 2023 #31
Sorry, but you don't get to rationalize your dog whistles Bucky Dec 2023 #50
It's not Anglecized. It's a nickname or even regular name given to girls in India JI7 Dec 2023 #65
Nikki IS part of her real name: Nimrata Nikki Randhawa. It's her real middle name. tblue37 Dec 2023 #71
I agree, i hate seeing that kind of crap here in DU. nt Raine Dec 2023 #10
It's so sad that she's ashamed of her own heritage and finds the need to appease bigots tenderfoot Dec 2023 #13
How do we know she is ashamed of her heritage? Caliman73 Dec 2023 #20
Do you often lecture other immigrants about this? Sympthsical Dec 2023 #21
Not as often as you lecture everyone on this site about everything under the sun as if you're so above it all. tenderfoot Dec 2023 #22
I actually believe in my liberal principles Sympthsical Dec 2023 #25
"It results in remarkably consistent views, I find." tenderfoot Dec 2023 #28
I don't think defending immigrants is right of center Sympthsical Dec 2023 #32
Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #34
That's the problem with paper activism Sympthsical Dec 2023 #38
I'm in ForgedCrank Dec 2023 #33
Sorry anybody who conveniently forgets their heritage Ritabert Dec 2023 #37
Why does she deserve to be called Nimrata? AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #42
Do you think she'd run as Nimarata for MAGAts? Ritabert Dec 2023 #44
Why should she? AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #45
Explain Rsphael Ted Cruz. Old Crank Dec 2023 #49
I don't think so either. Dulcinea Dec 2023 #72
I heard about her wanting to pardon stinky MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #4
Nimrata has one serious problem malaise Dec 2023 #5
I agree completely with you. Stinky The Clown Dec 2023 #14
I stole the part about the college from a tweet malaise Dec 2023 #18
+1 dalton99a Dec 2023 #15
CORRECT HAB911 Dec 2023 #24
They're all so despicable. onecaliberal Dec 2023 #51
Everything is about them malaise Dec 2023 #53
😲😲😲 did not know about her pops at am hbcu uponit7771 Dec 2023 #56
Lots of them use our institutions to climb up malaise Dec 2023 #57
This pisses me off to no end that she thinks pandering to the stupid 20% is needed uponit7771 Dec 2023 #61
And he used his African name malaise Dec 2023 #62
Wow! She said that?? She is really getting desperate. ecstatic Dec 2023 #7
Remember Barrack Hussein Obama? Stainless Dec 2023 #9
I think it matters because it shows she's not authentic ecstatic Dec 2023 #58
The name usage here says far more about you than Haley Blue_Adept Dec 2023 #11
When DUers use her first name HAB911 Dec 2023 #23
Her given middle name, Nikki, is Punjabi. It wasn't anglicized. Ocelot II Dec 2023 #35
We can also disagree about that, as well HAB911 Dec 2023 #43
I agree MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #63
thank you HAB911 Dec 2023 #67
No, it is racist. ARandomPerson Dec 2023 #59
Weaponizing bigotry is still bigotry. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #60
To pretend otherwise, is racist in my opinion. NotVeryImportant Dec 2023 #69
How about using the name she uses instead of implicitly insulting her Ocelot II Dec 2023 #26
Agree. And on these pages it is often aimed at women question everything Dec 2023 #30
Because Mr. Emhoff never tried to screw over the American public Ritabert Dec 2023 #39
So you are holding women responsible for the acts of their spouse. How 50s and apparently question everything Dec 2023 #40
Actually boomer here Ritabert Dec 2023 #41
Why do you say she absorbed it from him ? It's more likely JI7 Dec 2023 #66
who is old enough to remember the gop wanted jimmy carter on the ballot as james dembotoz Dec 2023 #46
Am I the only one who thought "Nimrata" was RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #54
I think all the Republican candidates have openly Emile Dec 2023 #55
Nikki is a common nickname for Indian girls JI7 Dec 2023 #64
Don't give a shit what her name is. What I hate about her is her BS lying. In the lousy book Ziggysmom Dec 2023 #77

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
1. I just feel like we can criticize her without using a name she doesn't identify with as an insult.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 04:37 AM
Dec 2023

Just makes me uncomfortable.

I don’t think she’ll win the nomination or be selected as the VP nominee FWIW.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
2. Thank you. It's not quite "deadnaming" but we don't need racist dogwhistles in our party
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 06:41 AM
Dec 2023

We still have to be the change we want to see.

Haley is a formidable politician. She'll probably end up with the support of the Christie/Cheney/Kinsinger factions of the party, which is really the only path to saving the Republican Party from becoming the anti-republicanism party

Old Crank

(7,078 posts)
47. Just following her fellow GOP member
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 06:11 PM
Dec 2023

Raphael Cruz who has put forth a law to make people use their real names.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
52. Well, you're following the wrong example
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 12:59 PM
Dec 2023

I don't know if you figured this out, but it doesn't do anything to help the Democratic cause when Democrats act like they can out-hate Republicans.

Stop saying things that a bigot would say. Bigotry is not a special privilege that we should be jealous of Republicans enjoying; it's self harming as much as it hurts targeted outgroups.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
80. You make a strong argument for acting like Republicans
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 12:44 AM
Jan 2024

... except for the in part where we won the 2018 elections, took back the White House in 2020 by seven million votes, held on to the Senate in 2022 and kept the supposed "red tsunami" down to an impotent five vote majority.

So, yes, standing up for democracy seems to be working out okay

PCIntern

(28,369 posts)
81. Do you know why?
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 11:55 AM
Jan 2024

Because we now hit back as hard as we can with whatever ammo we can use.

Ask President Kerry how well restraint worked out.

IzzaNuDay

(1,295 posts)
6. If Nikkki wanted to be authentic
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 10:33 AM
Dec 2023

Then she would be using her given name. the Nikkki name makes white folks feel comfortable with what she is saying and a name they can relate to.

Just another code switching application

PS - also waiting for the day Vivek anglicizes his name…

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,955 posts)
8. .
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 10:40 AM
Dec 2023
If Nikkki wanted to be authentic Then she would be using her given name."


This is such a crap take.

IzzaNuDay

(1,295 posts)
12. NH is code switching - Kamala didn't
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 11:56 AM
Dec 2023

Notice Kamala never Anglicized her first name during her political career.

MurrayDelph

(5,752 posts)
29. I think it's more
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:16 PM
Dec 2023

that people who don't want to allow others to choose a different name than the one they were assigned at birth should not get away with doing so for themselves.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
16. She wants to use her given middle name, she can use her given middle name.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:08 PM
Dec 2023

Remember, there was no "Beau Biden"--his (first) given name was "Joseph", and his middle name was, as the case with his father "Joseph", "Robinette" (he had a "III" as a result after his name, 3 generations of "Joseph Robinette Biden&quot . "Beau" is pure nickname.

I guess we have to exclaim, "Oh, noes! Utterly falsified and fabricated! Oh, the lies! The cover up! The fraud!" But, no, nicknames are fine in American society. Have been for many a century.

And "Hunter Biden" has the (first) given name "Robert". "Hunter" is his middle name.

Oooh ... The falsity. I guess he wanted to make himself seem like an aggressor, a "hunter". "Nikki" is less "anglicizing" her name by using her middle given legal name than "Beau" was trying to seem more Cajun by gallicizing his name or than Hunter wants to seem like a gun-toting NRAer by presenting himself as a "hunter".

But, no, that kind of thing has also been going on for many a century.

Having a principle that people get to use their given names or a hypocoristic should be applied equally. You're a person, each of the Bidens is a person, my dad was a person (he used his middle name when young), "Nikki" is a person, I'm a person. Condemn "Nikki" and you condemn "Joe," "Beau," and "Hunter" and by extension my dad.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
76. She can call herself
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:41 AM
Dec 2023

Loose Goose for all I care. She can even accent the "e"s. But she's sly as well. Have you noticed how much air time she earned by not mentioning slavery? This may come to something... like... the less she says, the greater the audience? Extend that to the extreme, and we've got something to work with: gain the greatest audience by saying NOTHING. There's Nikki's pathway to success.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
19. Nikki is her name.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:18 PM
Dec 2023

Her legal birth name is Nimarata Nikki Randhawa.

That is like saying if Joseph Robinette Biden wanted to be authentic, he wouldn't allow himself to be called "Joe".

It is dumb and there are many other things to criticize her for.

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
27. Nikki is one of her given names. It's her middle name; it's Punjabi and not anglicized.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:01 PM
Dec 2023

belpejic

(800 posts)
78. Slightly surprised
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 08:08 AM
Dec 2023

That her middle name, or at least one of them, isn't Kaur. Thanks for pointing out the facts, Ocelot II.

Polybius

(21,901 posts)
31. "If Nikkki wanted to be authentic Then she would be using her given name"
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:16 PM
Dec 2023

Oh, so you believe in deadnaming.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
50. Sorry, but you don't get to rationalize your dog whistles
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 12:52 PM
Dec 2023

If you lay aside your values of respect and tolerance and because your opponent doesn't share them, then those aren't really your values.

Just be honest and admit that respect and tolerance is only a political tactic to you.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
13. It's so sad that she's ashamed of her own heritage and finds the need to appease bigots
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 11:58 AM
Dec 2023

eom

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
20. How do we know she is ashamed of her heritage?
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:23 PM
Dec 2023

Nikki is a punjabi word that means "little one". She is using her middle name.

I began using my middle name when I went to school because when I was in day care, no one could pronounce my first name correctly. I am certainly not ashamed of my heritage.


Now, the fact that she will not clearly say that the Civil War was about Slavery and that it is a dark stain on American history that we need to continue to address, that is moral cowardice. She is a moral coward and she should be ashamed of that.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
21. Do you often lecture other immigrants about this?
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:27 PM
Dec 2023

I can bring my in-laws around, and you can scold them, too, if it feels productive for you.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
22. Not as often as you lecture everyone on this site about everything under the sun as if you're so above it all.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:38 PM
Dec 2023

Have a nice day.

Toodles.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
25. I actually believe in my liberal principles
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:41 PM
Dec 2023

They're not just for show.

It results in remarkably consistent views, I find. Particularly against racist attitudes.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
28. "It results in remarkably consistent views, I find."
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:07 PM
Dec 2023

Very right of center views and a variety of other conservative takes.

The world we live in is so far to the right today that it makes sense.

🍿

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
32. I don't think defending immigrants is right of center
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:17 PM
Dec 2023

And if shitting on ethnic minorities is considered Left, well, things have been changing under my nose.

Telling minorities how they should be has always struck me as more of a Right thing.

But apparently mileage varies. Conveniently. At need.

Response to Sympthsical (Reply #32)

ForgedCrank

(3,096 posts)
33. I'm in
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:21 PM
Dec 2023

agreement with you.
I find it to be a bit hypocritical. We should be focusing on qualifications and policy, not irrelevant silliness like this.
What she wishes to be called and her reasons for it are her own business and don't have any relevance to the political race overall.

Ritabert

(2,446 posts)
37. Sorry anybody who conveniently forgets their heritage
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:30 PM
Dec 2023

...and then ignores slavery is delusional or pandering to a racist audience. She deserves to be called Nimarata.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
45. Why should she?
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 03:13 PM
Dec 2023

She goes by the name Nikki.
The only people who seem REALLY CONCERNED that she uses her middle name and not her first name seem to be Democrats looking to score a cheap shot with some racism.

Dulcinea

(10,088 posts)
72. I don't think so either.
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 11:17 PM
Dec 2023

Dolt 45 will never pick anyone who might upstage him, & I doubt she'll be the nominee.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
4. I heard about her wanting to pardon stinky
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 08:41 AM
Dec 2023

the clown. 🤡 Just keep digging that hole nimrod.

malaise

(296,111 posts)
5. Nimrata has one serious problem
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 08:48 AM
Dec 2023

She just wants to be acknowledged as a white American - she is insecure and ambitious on steroids. She also thinks she’s superior to the descendants of ex- slaves who have been in the USA for centuries.

Meanwhile her Indian born father worked as a college professor at the only college that would employ him-- an HBCU. For her, this is a cynical political dance baked in anti-Blackness.

I hate these people.

malaise

(296,111 posts)
53. Everything is about them
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 01:13 PM
Dec 2023

She knows not one eff about African American history and she made that choice.
Happy New Year to you and yours😀

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
61. This pisses me off to no end that she thinks pandering to the stupid 20% is needed
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 01:36 PM
Dec 2023

Is she even paying half assed attention?

America's first POTUS of color was named Obama ... Americans loved him

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
7. Wow! She said that?? She is really getting desperate.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 10:38 AM
Dec 2023

Not a good look.

Sometimes when these gopers are squandering their campaigns in the last moments I wonder, is it that they were never serious about getting the position?? Is it just about the campaign money? A grift?

Stainless

(719 posts)
9. Remember Barrack Hussein Obama?
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 10:40 AM
Dec 2023

Last edited Sat Dec 30, 2023, 12:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Despite his name (and color) he was one of the better U.S. Presidents in my baby boomer lifetime.

Nikki Haley (or Nimrata Nikki Randhawa) is simply another MAGAt trying to destroy our American Democracy from within. Her name or ethnicity doesn't really matter IMHO.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
58. I think it matters because it shows she's not authentic
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 01:26 PM
Dec 2023

She's a phony.

Barack Hussein Obama ran with his full real and correct name and won the presidency twice.

Even Vivek, as obnoxious and off putting as he is, is also running under his real name.

Nikki, on the other hand appears to be self-hating and running away from her culture and identity. She won't even embrace her own opinions. She tells a room full of people, tell me what you want me to say and I'll say it. That is completely unacceptable. Voters don't like that. They want someone who is real, authentic and proud of who they are.

Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
11. The name usage here says far more about you than Haley
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 11:31 AM
Dec 2023

And I have mostly negative things to say about Haley.

Be better.

HAB911

(10,440 posts)
23. When DUers use her first name
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:40 PM
Dec 2023

it is not to be racist, it's to rub her and MAGAt's nose in their own hypocrisy

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
35. Her given middle name, Nikki, is Punjabi. It wasn't anglicized.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:24 PM
Dec 2023

If she prefers to use her given middle name which is simpler and easier to remember than her first name, what's hypocritical about that? We can point out what's wrong with her politically without disrespecting the way she wishes to be addressed.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,512 posts)
63. I agree
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 04:36 PM
Dec 2023

with your disagreement!

While she racistly lies about the cause of the Civil War and promises to pardon that traitorous criminal, her feefees might get an owie from using her real name.

Boo hoo.

ARandomPerson

(2,486 posts)
59. No, it is racist.
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 01:28 PM
Dec 2023

They're trying to exploit other racism while pretending to be non-racist themselves. It's shit. DUers should knock it off.

 

NotVeryImportant

(578 posts)
69. To pretend otherwise, is racist in my opinion.
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 10:16 PM
Dec 2023

I have no problems referring to her as Nimrata in public, it's her name, she should be as proud to use it as I am.

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
26. How about using the name she uses instead of implicitly insulting her
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 12:58 PM
Dec 2023

with the name she doesn't use - maybe calling attention to her ethnicity? I don't like her at all but please don't play that game.

question everything

(52,134 posts)
30. Agree. And on these pages it is often aimed at women
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:16 PM
Dec 2023

like referring to Andrea Mitchell as Mrs. Greenspan but never to Kamala Harris as Mrs. Emhoff.

Ritabert

(2,446 posts)
39. Because Mr. Emhoff never tried to screw over the American public
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 02:39 PM
Dec 2023

...and Mrs. Greenspan is always spewing nonsense.

question everything

(52,134 posts)
40. So you are holding women responsible for the acts of their spouse. How 50s and apparently
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 02:41 PM
Dec 2023

Gen-Z

Ritabert

(2,446 posts)
41. Actually boomer here
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 02:55 PM
Dec 2023

I call her Mrs. Greenspan because she apparently absorbed Greenspan's destructive philosophy.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
66. Why do you say she absorbed it from him ? It's more likely
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 07:38 PM
Dec 2023

something they had in common before they met and why they ended up together.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
46. who is old enough to remember the gop wanted jimmy carter on the ballot as james
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 03:20 PM
Dec 2023

let her be called nimrod for all it care

RandomNumbers

(19,156 posts)
54. Am I the only one who thought "Nimrata" was
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 01:14 PM
Dec 2023

a feminization of "nimrod"?



After seeing the comments, I looked it up. Nikki Haley's given name - per Wikipedia - is spelled "Nimarata" - not the spelling in the OP.

I still think it works as "Nimroda"

Just a silly add to the other comments which stray from the question of the o.p.

Emile

(42,289 posts)
55. I think all the Republican candidates have openly
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 01:20 PM
Dec 2023

stated they would pardon the fucking traitor. Chris Christie said he would have to look into it.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
64. Nikki is a common nickname for Indian girls
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 07:34 PM
Dec 2023

similar to how they will refer to a name like Meenakshi as miki .

But there are girls that are only named Niki also. It's like Priti, Tulsi, Neeti etc. They just have those type of names.

So I don't think this is similar to "Bobby" Jindal.





Ziggysmom

(4,123 posts)
77. Don't give a shit what her name is. What I hate about her is her BS lying. In the lousy book
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 03:46 AM
Dec 2023

she wrote in 2019, With All Due Respect, she kisses trumps fat ass, even going so far as supporting his brown nosing with Putin. She also goes over the top and notes Trumpy was oh so truthful and great to work with. Once in an interview for Time she said about TFG, "We need him in the Republican Party. I don’t want us to go back to the days before Trump.” Enough said.



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