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Question: What was The Civil War Fought Over? (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2023 OP
Commerce elleng Dec 2023 #1
She is shameless, of course, but she was governor of a state who "seceeded" RockRaven Dec 2023 #2
She made me think of this Hieronymus Phact Dec 2023 #3
States rights (to own slaves). Cartoonist Dec 2023 #4
No. Really states rights was a message they sold Waterguy Dec 2023 #5
If she's the answer, czarjak Dec 2023 #6
'Drapery'? Like this? EYESORE 9001 Dec 2023 #7
No! This Wonder Why Dec 2023 #9
Love Carol Burnett EYESORE 9001 Dec 2023 #13
Wasn't it KINDA About STATES' RIGHTS?!?!?! The Revolution Dec 2023 #8
"Chicanery" SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #10
Luckovich nails it again. Vinca Dec 2023 #11
K&R Emile Dec 2023 #12
She's a clueless chickenshit. (nt) Paladin Dec 2023 #14

RockRaven

(19,380 posts)
2. She is shameless, of course, but she was governor of a state who "seceeded"
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 03:07 AM
Dec 2023

or tried to, and they said EXACTLY WHY in the documents they created regarding that.

And then an armed party of insurrectionists from that state fired upon a federal military force/site.

The proximate cause of the Civil War was that act of violence, and the cause of that act of violence was explained in those documents... And she knows nothing of those documents?

Given that she was governor of that very state, and was repeatedly involved in pathetic fracas regarding the history of that state, she is openly displaying her disqualifying ignorance (and that is the most charitable interpretation -- which is more than she deserves based on her prior behavior).

Waterguy

(302 posts)
5. No. Really states rights was a message they sold
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 04:38 AM
Dec 2023

Little kids like me, in the early sixties,
that's what they taught,
even though I knew what was clearly evident,

and I did not know much at the time.

I was never correct about life,
a lot of things personally for me took
a lot of figuring in my own past.

A lot of things seem jumbled in this world
And it is crazy, the narrative's so completely
obtuse they seem so to be to just now.

And I wish only I was still young,
as tired as I am.

How I wish I could change
tomorrow,
falling into this ocean
pressed onto the sea
pretending I was nothing
forgetting a face,
in any mirror,
and all the world is green,
Once again.

you could be fooled about a lot of things
if you put up with it.
Like bit coin, but not as racist.

There you go again,
Bit Coin, it's not as racist
as we once were,
you just got to make it rain
to put out the fire.

Everything is wrong,
and nothing is the same

damn it Tom Waits,
I cannot get those words
off the brain

The blues, nah nah,
that was what got my own behind
in my youth
but you know damn well
that shit still sits
everywhere I look

The Revolution

(895 posts)
8. Wasn't it KINDA About STATES' RIGHTS?!?!?!
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 05:40 AM
Dec 2023


Just like with abortion, the whole "states' rights" mantra was just something that sounded good. Certainly states in the CSA were not going to be free to leave or abolish slavery within their own borders.
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