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lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 09:06 PM Dec 2023

Anti-Israel protesters block the main entrance at the WTC in NYC: "Genocide Joe Has Got to Go"

And it looks like the Putin-chaos agent-useful idiot coalition is going to try for a repeat of the 2016 general election.

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Anti-Israel protesters block the main entrance at the WTC in NYC: "Genocide Joe Has Got to Go" (Original Post) lapucelle Dec 2023 OP
They are disgusting. Protesting at the site of our worst terrorist attack isn't going to brer cat Dec 2023 #1
how many of those people chanting "genocide joe" would cheer in pleasure if he nukes Israel and killed all the Israelis? Takket Dec 2023 #2
All of them. EllieBC Dec 2023 #6
Yes. Yes, they would. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #7
Traitor Dic loves this Shit Cha Dec 2023 #3
They also say it was Jews that did 9-11 JI7 Dec 2023 #4
9/11 was about bringing us together not hatred or antisemitism reymega life Dec 2023 #5
I can't make out what it is you intend by that statement. Please explain. Hekate Dec 2023 #14
At Best, Ma'am, The Account You Address Is An Incompetent Poe The Magistrate Dec 2023 #18
Sir, as always you say it so much better than I... Hekate Dec 2023 #20
Thank You, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2023 #21
May you and yours have a happy and robustly healthy new year Hekate Dec 2023 #22
9/11 was about 3,000 people killed by another terrorist organization. RandySF Dec 2023 #28
How is a murderous attack not about hatred? TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #45
This is incredibly fucked up ismnotwasm Dec 2023 #8
Evil fucks. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #9
Genocide Joe??? SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #10
Party of Socialism and Liberation - They have their own presidential candidate - Claudia de la Cruz LeftInTX Dec 2023 #43
Interesting. It seems like there are several orgs. scipan Dec 2023 #46
I get the distinct impression there's a group of Republicans behind all this moving the levers and pushing the buttons. paleotn Dec 2023 #53
Well, CAIR is part of it. EllieBC Dec 2023 #58
The party of nuts and lunatics. Like we don't have enough of both. Wonderful. paleotn Dec 2023 #52
I'll bet most of them know nothing about history in the middle-east. chouchou Dec 2023 #11
You could have stopped typing after "nothing" tritsofme Dec 2023 #12
Assholes. Useful idiots. They want Trump back. Agents of effing chaos. Is anyone following the money? Hekate Dec 2023 #13
These are Hamas rallies. dalton99a Dec 2023 #15
They sure are and I hope people see through that FlyingPiggy Jan 2024 #65
That they chose THAT venue to "protest".... Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #16
It's probably what it seems like. EllieBC Dec 2023 #17
+1 Exactly. It's time to cut the bullshit. These Pro Palestine rallies held at WTC while screaming the N-word are shit. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #19
I Think The 'Pro-Palestine' Wheeze Can Be Retired, Ma'am: These Are Hamas Groupies The Magistrate Dec 2023 #23
Rec TY TM. Cha Dec 2023 #25
I was hoping this wasn't the case but I can't get around the constant alignment with Hamas and Hamas lovers. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #26
Yep. Lunabell Dec 2023 #31
These are not false flag events, and the protesters are not GQP. They're left wing extremists. lapucelle Dec 2023 #32
So screaming the " n" word Lunabell Dec 2023 #35
The DSA made those flyers calling for EllieBC Dec 2023 #37
I guess my mistake is equating the progressive left Lunabell Dec 2023 #40
The protesters in NYC are left wing. lapucelle Dec 2023 #41
Still smells Republican to me. paleotn Dec 2023 #54
It may smell Republican to some, but the reality here in NYC is very different. lapucelle Dec 2023 #60
It Is Said, Ma'am, Anti-Semitism Is The Socialism Of Fools The Magistrate Jan 2024 #61
Indeed there are, Sir, and fools are frequently useful. lapucelle Jan 2024 #62
Party of Socialism and Liberation - Claudia De La Cruz is their presidential candidate. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #42
That map of "Palestine " looks like all of Israel. Danmel Dec 2023 #49
Good catch!!! LeftInTX Dec 2023 #50
I'm done JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Dec 2023 #27
Wow. They must be really anxious to get Trump back. RandySF Dec 2023 #29
Some of them might be accelerationists lapucelle Dec 2023 #33
It'll only usher in a guaranteed EllieBC Dec 2023 #38
That worked so well the first time. paleotn Dec 2023 #55
It boggles the mind Patton French Dec 2023 #30
At this point, no one or anyone. lapucelle Dec 2023 #34
They will support Cornel West, Claudia de la Cruz or whoever is running in the Green Party LeftInTX Dec 2023 #47
Thanks for the heads up. lapucelle Dec 2023 #48
I'll bet I could guess * Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #36
Cornel West or Green Party or a nutjob from the Party of Socialism and Liberation LeftInTX Dec 2023 #39
I picture a bunch of Cynthia McKinney types madville Dec 2023 #44
My thoughts and prayers do not support that mob. LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #51
A mob of clueless uninformed disrupters revmclaren Dec 2023 #56
These protests are only helping TFG LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #57
So they're MAGAts? Kennah Dec 2023 #59
At the end of the day based on their agenda, yes, they are piss ditch MAGA turds. They love Orange Bastard. Hate the USA SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #63
They are members of groups that identify with socialism and Leninism lapucelle Jan 2024 #64

brer cat

(27,327 posts)
1. They are disgusting. Protesting at the site of our worst terrorist attack isn't going to
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 09:12 PM
Dec 2023

persuade anyone to join their side. Just sowing crap to create chaos.

Takket

(23,434 posts)
2. how many of those people chanting "genocide joe" would cheer in pleasure if he nukes Israel and killed all the Israelis?
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 09:14 PM
Dec 2023

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
18. At Best, Ma'am, The Account You Address Is An Incompetent Poe
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:35 AM
Dec 2023

Its anachronistic incoherence amuses, but not for long.

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
20. Sir, as always you say it so much better than I...
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:50 AM
Dec 2023
and also, if you will forgive the familiarity

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
45. How is a murderous attack not about hatred?
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:42 PM
Dec 2023

Bringing us together?

You really consider that to be a within James Webb Telescope range of a sane or even just not an utterly wicked approach even if somehow one twists themselves into buying such intent?

SocialDemocrat61

(6,664 posts)
10. Genocide Joe???
Sat Dec 30, 2023, 10:54 PM
Dec 2023

Are they aware Biden is President of the United States, not President of Israel?

scipan

(2,971 posts)
46. Interesting. It seems like there are several orgs.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 04:32 PM
Dec 2023

See the upper right of the poster. I've seen ANSWER before (an umbrella org) and CAIR is Council for American Islamic Relations.


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paleotn

(21,427 posts)
53. I get the distinct impression there's a group of Republicans behind all this moving the levers and pushing the buttons.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 05:29 PM
Dec 2023

EllieBC

(3,602 posts)
58. Well, CAIR is part of it.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 06:35 PM
Dec 2023

And I don’t think they are as progressive as anyone has wanted to think.

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
13. Assholes. Useful idiots. They want Trump back. Agents of effing chaos. Is anyone following the money?
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 12:23 AM
Dec 2023

Behind the Aegis

(55,891 posts)
16. That they chose THAT venue to "protest"....
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 12:49 AM
Dec 2023

....seems it isn't really a "pro-Palestine" rally or even an anti-Israel rally.

EllieBC

(3,602 posts)
17. It's probably what it seems like.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 12:51 AM
Dec 2023

A celebration of a terrorist attack. A celebration and support march for terrorist organizations.

SoFlaBro

(3,730 posts)
19. +1 Exactly. It's time to cut the bullshit. These Pro Palestine rallies held at WTC while screaming the N-word are shit.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:43 AM
Dec 2023

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
23. I Think The 'Pro-Palestine' Wheeze Can Be Retired, Ma'am: These Are Hamas Groupies
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:56 AM
Dec 2023


'So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot.'



SoFlaBro

(3,730 posts)
26. I was hoping this wasn't the case but I can't get around the constant alignment with Hamas and Hamas lovers.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 04:00 AM
Dec 2023
 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
31. Yep.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 07:12 AM
Dec 2023

They're not pro-peace. Just anti, anti, anti Biden. (Sound familiar?) And to praise hamas? Not just the average Palestinians who just want to feed their kids? Yeah, no. Sounds like the GQP bussed in their kids for this.

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
32. These are not false flag events, and the protesters are not GQP. They're left wing extremists.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 09:48 AM
Dec 2023

These protests are occurring every day in NYC. They are sponsored by If Not Now, The People's Forum, and Democratic Socialists of America.

At least some of the funding is likely coming from tech billionaire / Maoist Neville Roy Singham and his wife, Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! was a guest at their 2017 wedding.




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Here's more about Neville Roy Singham from The New York Times.

A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul

https://archive.ph/vHKCM

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New Lines Magazine:

The Big Business of Uyghur Genocide Denial

A New Lines investigation reveals a network of charities funneling millions into left-wing platforms that take Beijing’s side on the genocide allegations — and they’re all connected to an American tech magnate

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur-genocide-denial/

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
35. So screaming the " n" word
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 11:56 AM
Dec 2023

and praising a terrorist attack by hamas is now left wing?

I don't think so.

EllieBC

(3,602 posts)
37. The DSA made those flyers calling for
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 12:46 PM
Dec 2023

a protest outside Rep Jeffries office and put a goddamned watermelon only on his flyer.

Don’t delude yourself into thinking bigotry, racism, and antisemitism doesn’t exist on the left.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
40. I guess my mistake is equating the progressive left
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 12:55 PM
Dec 2023

with the far left. Too many factions to deal with. No true progressive lefty would praise terrorism or bigotry.

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
41. The protesters in NYC are left wing.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:00 PM
Dec 2023

And yes, they are screaming the "n" word and praising the Hamas terrorist attack.

Anyone upset that these racist anti-Semites are marching under the banner of left wing organizations should take it up directly with the organizers.

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paleotn

(21,427 posts)
54. Still smells Republican to me.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 05:34 PM
Dec 2023

Particularly from the point of view of cui bono....who benefits.

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
60. It may smell Republican to some, but the reality here in NYC is very different.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 08:11 PM
Dec 2023

These are If Not Now, The People's Forum, and Democratic Socialists of America protests. They are very well funded, and they are not Republican operatives.

I don't think this is as much "who benefits" as it is "who does this hurt".

It hurts Jews. It hurts Israelis. It hurts Democrats who refuse to abandon Israel.

And in the end, it hurts Palestinians.

They. Don't. Care.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
61. It Is Said, Ma'am, Anti-Semitism Is The Socialism Of Fools
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 01:57 AM
Jan 2024

There's plenty of fools enlisted in the DSA....

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
62. Indeed there are, Sir, and fools are frequently useful.
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:52 AM
Jan 2024

It is also said (as Stephen Fry reminded us in a Christmas message) that anti-Semitism is a light sleeper.


Jewish TV Executives Voice Dismay After Ex-Channel 4 Commissioner Attacks Stephen Fry's National Rallying Cry Against Antisemitism

Tamara Abood, an ex-Channel 4 current affairs commissioner and producer of shows including What Happens In Kavos, sparked anger after posting on LinkedIn about Fry's alternative Christmas Day message.

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Fry used his speech on Channel 4 to express concern about rising antisemitism in the UK and implored viewers to stand up against discrimination. The six-minute speech was produced by Fulwell 73.

Abood, who now works as a psychotherapist but maintains links to the TV industry, wrote that the speech was "disingenuous" in a series of LinkedIn messages.

She added: "C4 is broadcasting a Christmas message about anti-semitism. If this doesn't demonstrate to you where the power lies, and who dies for those lies of the powerful, you are choosing to be blind."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/jewish-tv-executives-voice-dismay-after-ex-channel-4-commissioner-attacks-stephen-fry-s-national-rallying-cry-against-antisemitism/ar-AA1mgyFd?ocid=msedgntp&pc=SCOOBE&cvid=1a2d95ccfac246b28b2deeb4ce70703f&ei=14

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218565658

JustAnotherGen

(37,476 posts)
24. I'm done
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 03:55 AM
Dec 2023

They won't be able to do this when Agenda 47 is inflicted on all of us.

Maybe that's what they want? Is an expansion of the cruelty on October 7th what they want? They want it extended to America?

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
33. Some of them might be accelerationists
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 10:23 AM
Dec 2023

who believe that the reelection of Donald Trump will usher in a left wing revolution.

Others don't care because they think that punishing Joe Biden for supporting Israel will force Democrats to discontinue that support.

EllieBC

(3,602 posts)
38. It'll only usher in a guaranteed
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 12:47 PM
Dec 2023

loss of their rights. But I don’t think they care. They are like anarchists and just want to watch it all burn. Even if it means they burn in it.

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
34. At this point, no one or anyone.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 10:27 AM
Dec 2023

It may well be that they are working to depress overall Democratic, Democratic-leaning turnout in 2024.

LeftInTX

(34,013 posts)
47. They will support Cornel West, Claudia de la Cruz or whoever is running in the Green Party
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 04:45 PM
Dec 2023

I marched behind the Party for Socialism and Liberation at the MLK March last January. They're a piece of work and they're involved in these protests, "Abolish the military", "Abolish the border", "Abolish prisons".

They have a candidate for POTUS: Claudia de la Cruz. https://votesocialist2024.com/

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
48. Thanks for the heads up.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 05:15 PM
Dec 2023

I wouldn't be surprised if Democracy Now! platformed her at some point.

madville

(7,834 posts)
44. I picture a bunch of Cynthia McKinney types
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:35 PM
Dec 2023

Green Party type leftists that hold as much disdain for Democrats as they do Republicans and have an antisemitic streak to boot. All the folks losing their jobs for being identified as participants in these rallies have probably curtailed some folks though.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
56. A mob of clueless uninformed disrupters
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 06:10 PM
Dec 2023

doing what clueless disrupters do.

I would really like to know who is directing and funding this.

SoFlaBro

(3,730 posts)
63. At the end of the day based on their agenda, yes, they are piss ditch MAGA turds. They love Orange Bastard. Hate the USA
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:55 AM
Jan 2024

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
64. They are members of groups that identify with socialism and Leninism
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:00 AM
Jan 2024

and are partially funded by a tech billionaire who identifies as a Maoist.

They can be located at the point where the two sides of the horseshoe meet.

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