I'm affraid of 2024

[samplegirl]

2023 was bad enough. The uncertainty of it all makes for lots of worry. Can’t do another Trump presidency and the next one will kill many of us off.

[G2theD]

1. No way Trump is elected

I said the same thing in 2016. Remember that Trump lost in 2020 by a landslide and that was before all his crimes were exposed and the criminal indictments. It was before he was found guilty of rape. I can’t believe he will do any better in 2024 than in 2020.

[Polybius]

2. It wasn't by any means a landslide

It was about the same Electoral vote margin as in 2016.

[bif]

3. He lost by 8 million votes

That's pretty significant.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. He lost by 44,000 votes in three states

That’s an extremely narrow margin, easily whittled down with enough sabotage from third party candidates.

[Polybius]

6. Irrelevant in the US

A landslide consists of 400+ Electoral Votes. The last true landslide was 1988.

[MyNameIsJonas]

28. If the US elected its president by popular vote, you'd be right.

We don't, tho.

In terms of votes that matter, Biden won by about 44,000 votes across a handful of states.

[wryter2000]

11. It was way better than 2016

Trump lost the popular vote. He won the electoral college because of some thousands of votes in three states.

[Polybius]

12. And in 2020, he could have also won the Electoral College because of "some thousands of votes in three states"

44,000 votes in three states would make him the winner. That's not a landslide, 1984 is.

[wryter2000]

34. No, it's not a landslide

My point was that it was better than2016.

[Polybius]

36. Agreed

Hopefully, 2024 will be a landslide.

[wryter2000]

37. I just want to keep the White House and the Senate

And fumigate the House

[Polybius]

38. We might have to settle for two out of three

Rough Senate map in 2024.

[wryter2000]

4. I'm not

I look forward to Trump losing again. After that, nothing that dumb judge in Florida does can save him. If he manages to escape from the other charges, which is unlikely.
He won with a squeaker in 2016. Then he lost in a blue wave in 2018. He lost in 2020. He lost his red wave in 2022

Don't believe polls. Believe data. Trump is a loser.

He may not face a criminal trial in 2024, but the indictments will be waiting for him when he loses again.

[Takket]

25. as i've heard people say about 2016........

He didn't win the vote, he won the PROCESS in that election. America has NEVER actually chosen him by will of the people.

He just needs to be a loser ONE MORE TIME, and we'll be rid of him for good.

[kcr]

32. But it isn't 2016

A lot has changed since then.

[wryter2000]

35. Yes

Most of it bad for Trump

[tinrobot]

7. It will definitely be turbulent

But not scared. He's already on the ropes. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance he's even the nominee.

[bluestarone]

8. As of now, i'm looking forward to possibly the BEST new year EVER! (2025)

TFG will lose again!, and i will really celebrate. THIS is my only wish forever.

[Joinfortmill]

9. I hear you, but I'm hopeful the law will prevail, and Trump will be taken down by the courts...

That said, if things should not go that way, maybe the dark forces of the so called deep state everyone talks about will decide that Trump is a liability. But, maybe I've been watching too many movies.

[DoBW]

10. Keep shining the light

Opening the door to 24

[peacebuzzard]

13. samplegirl, I think most sane people have the same trepidations,

It just doesn't add up how a few unclassified lunatics have been able to cause such turmoil. The chief lunatic only gains validation from ultra billionaires with no sense of moral obligations, clueless high bracket taxpayers and the band of low-lifes and thieves that occupy the militia and serfdom. The other spectrum which most of us occupy have been beat up time and again by the senseless electoral college and the appointed judges and thieves that have a legal say-so.
If the moral majority win back in a big way it will be time to reorganize the entire system while we can.
Hugs to you and all of us this New Year. May the powers that be and all the angels and warriors come together to right too many wrongs.

[samplegirl]

15. I'm a wreck every night

getting into my bed. I’m 66 yrs old. I’m to old for this shit. I’ve read and followed politics for years. The media is negative.
Even Rachel Maddow scares the hell out of me these days.

[samplegirl]

21. Thank you for your

encouraging words. All of this from Covid to where we are right now has been exhausting and kept me in a hyper state of fear.
I watch news and read because you want to know.
This has been going on bad since the Bush/Cheney years but nothing compares to killer Trump!

[peacebuzzard]

33. I know what you mean and how long this has been going on,

It was right after the SC handed dubya the presidency that my heart bottomed and although there has been some encouragement during the Obama years it quickly fizzled under that lunatic. I could finally sleep at night with Joe in the white house. I threw out my television years ago under dubya and never looked back. I really pick and choose what I read and listen to. It's mainly classic radio and NPR and a few news sources. I don't need another BP spike; I try really hard on that one to stay healthy and alert. hugs,

[Deuxcents]

14. Don't be afraid, my Friend

Can’t be scared off before we even get started! You are doing your part and the rest of us, in our way are, too. Don’t look at the polls, they’re meaningless and the only counting that counts is the election results. Be positive and enjoy the promise of a new year and its challenges as they come and go. Wishing you and your family a healthy and happy new year..we’re gonna be alright 👍

[samplegirl]

22. Ok sure hope your right

I’m just so sad.

[2naSalit]

16. to be honest...

I ain't scared. I think he isn't going to be running by the end of summer. I think he's going to have a physical health issue that takes him out of the race... perhaps in addition to mental breakdown once the trials are rolling.

[Deuxcents]

17. I've thought that, too. Health problems so he can't run

And I don’t care if they’re bogus or not..just so he’s out and goes away.

[Kennah]

18. Remember when people said "I'm glad that 2020 is over and this is all behind us"?

[Rebl2]

26. So we thought

He is so evil and wants to take revenge on those against him. He’s a weakling mentally and definitely not in good health.

[Yavin4]

19. For what it's worth, the Democratic party as a whole is in a very strong position

The party has outperformed expectations in every election since 2016, except for the Senate in 2020. Boomers will no longer the majority of the voters as the baton has been passed to Millenials. Women are voting to protect their reproductive rights. Trump has bankrupted many state Republican parties. The economy is strong and should continue to get stronger next year.

In sum, the Democrats occupy more of the political center than the Republicans who've become married to Trump and tied up with twisted conspiracy theories.

[Takket]

23. i feel the same way......

we, as a country, cannot fuck up 2024, because if we do, i doubt come 2028 that the country will look anything like it once did

[roamer65]

29. The "United" part will be gone.

[bucolic_frolic]

24. Yes, Trump II would be Covid on steroids

Many forces are turning against him. We are so much clearer than a year ago. Way past tourists.

[Ferrets are Cool]

27. 2023 was a great year.

[canetoad]

30. Trump will not be elected

I can state that confidently. There may be a little blowback from his flying monkeys but nothing that LE and the National Guard cannot deal with.

Please, don't buy into the panic and anxiety he is spreading. Be confident that the US will do the right thing.

[BannonsLiver]

31. Meh.