Is Trump trying to intimidate the Supreme Court?

[kentuck]

I saw a video this morning from MeidasTouch that showed a post by the Great Stinky and he was suggesting that the Court would rule against him, both on the immunity charge and the ballot issues, because they were influenced by "politics".

In effect, his comments were attempting to do just that.

He is becoming more desperate by the minute.

[niyad]

1. Yes. Next question.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

2. The good news is that the majority of justices aren't intimidated by him in the least,

they've ruled against him time and time again, especially with his bullshit lawsuits trying to overturn his loss to Pres. Biden, and I suspect that they'll rule against him again.

[gab13by13]

4. I give this fascist Supreme Court very little credit

for ruling against 60 frivolous Trump lawsuits. There wasn't a single one of those 60 lawsuits/appeals that any rational judge would have granted.

Trump understands that he can't win in a courtroom, he doesn't have the evidence or facts on his side.

What Trump understands and what Jack Smith understands is that time matters.

Polls are showing that a convicted Trump loses the election by 6 points.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

6. You're absolutely correct that time matters,

but I believe that the SC will rule against him again, they've shown very little interest in protecting him and I also believe that they will rule PDQ when it reaches them.
We shall see.
Happy New Year gab13by13.

[pnwmom]

21. The bad news is that they refused to expedite their consideration of the appeal

which means we're very unlikely to see that trial in March, if ever.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

22. Maybe, maybe not.

We shall see.

[BlueKota]

31. This is my fear

they can help him run out the clock, until the election without ever offering a ruling. Then they can say they technically didn't rule that he was immune, and let him pardon himself if he wins.

[Shermann]

29. Yes, fealty isn't forever

Fealty will remain in place just as long as it is beneficial to the allegiant. As circumstances change, allegiances will break and form anew.

I watched Game of Thrones you see. Cersei couldn't maintain her grip on power sitting in that dungeon cell.

[gab13by13]

3. Trump never had a legal defense that would win in a court of law, when he goes to court he loses.

That is not, nor was it ever his strategy. he cannot prove his innocence in a courtroom so he files frivolous appeals to delay his trials.
He threatens judges, juries, witnesses, SC justices to put fear in them with death threats. These people will think twice about taking Trump on knowing they will get death threats.

For 2 1/2 years I have been criticized here for pushing the fact that Time Matters in holding Trump accountable, in getting Trump to trial before the election. Jack Smith so understands the importance of time that he has trimmed down the criminal charges that he has brought against Trump. Jack Smith's #1 goal is to get Trump to trial before the election.

No way in a million years will this fascist Supreme Court give a president the Divine right of Kings. The real question that we should be asking is whether this court is going to delay reaching its decision in time for the J6 trial to begin on time?

Time Matters

[myohmy2]

8. +1...

...

[kentuck]

10. He understands very well that the best way to never be convicted...

...is to never go to trial.

[2naSalit]

32. He's relying heavily...

On brute force and ignorance of the minions. I suspect there are far fewer of them than we are being lead to believe.

Always remember that a vast network of trolls and propagandists are at work, critical thinking is necessary from now on with everything your hear, read, see.

[FalloutShelter]

5. Some members of SCOTUS may be craven...

But they are not stupid. If they pave the way for a tRump Presidency by giving him a pass , they will live under his boot as surely as we will. He will threaten them at every opportunity.

I keep coming back to ‘craven’. They all have life time appointments. Guess who does not? YET!

Why would they bend the knee, when they have the power and he has none.?

JMHO

[ecstatic]

13. Somehow I feel optimistic as well

I just feel like the issues before them are so common sense that it would be really really shocking, even for a group of right-wing thugs, to buck that common sense.

[CrispyQ]

14. +1!

IDK why any SC justice would think they're beholden to the one who appointed them.

[onecaliberal]

30. More like the ones who bought them.

[yardwork]

15. It might be even simpler than that.

Trump publicly speaks about the justices he appointed as "his." Nobody likes that. Brett Kavanaugh doesn't want people thinking that the only reason he was nominated to the Court was because he owes something to a gross pathetic jerk like Trump.

I expect they're all distancing themselves from Trump. This doesn't mean they'll vote wisely - some of them are still moronic bigoted jerks - but they won't want to be seen as giving anything to Trump.

[GoCubsGo]

7. Intimidation is his M.O.

So, yes. Of course, he is. How the justices react to his intimidation is another story. We'll see, but I'm not so sure they're going to cower to it. If he wins, they're out of power.

[gab13by13]

9. Trump will keep 6 of the Justices.

[GoCubsGo]

11. I doubt that. See post #5. nt

[flashman13]

24. I have to disagree with you here. Only uber corrupt Thomas and Alito will side with Trump.

"His 3 judges" will not support him. They want overturning Rowe and empowering the patriarchy to be their legacy rather than to be remembered as Trump's stooges.

I am willing to go out on a limb and say that the DC Circuit Court will rule that Trump has no immunity and SCOTUS will vote not to hear the case which lets the DC court ruling stand.

[PortTack]

20. You nailed it. And, this is why I don't think they will side with him. In a dictatorship there's only room for one

At the top. They are every bit as addicted to power as he is

[ecstatic]

12. Cool. So they might as well rule against him now as

the law and Constitution requires. It's likely they're already receiving threats by now, so fear of his base should no longer be an issue. Can't put that cat back in the bag.

[myohmy2]

16. depending...

...on what crap comes down from the fascist Republican hacks controlling the Supreme Court, we still control the Presidency and Senate until January 21, 2025...

...plenty of time to save our Constitution and democracy...if we want...

...

[spanone]

17. He needs to be muzzled.

He'll never shut up.

[Timewas]

18. His MO

He is a bully and that is what bullies do.

[Igel]

19. Lots of people want to intimidate SCOTUS.

Threats to pack the court. Worked in the '30s, hasn't much worked yet that anybody's noticed.

Calls to defund the justices when made by more than just anonymous commenters on discussion groups also fall under "intimidation." Basically, "Vote the correct way, my way, or we'll cut your pay."

One prominent person in power said when SCOTUS was poised to decided a certain way on a certain case, calling out specific justices by name, "You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions." Not an attempt at intimidation? (He got cheers, not jeers. Intimidation is good, I guess. Until it's said by a baddie.)

The constant refrain that SCOTUS is utterly biased for partisan reasons--that's really what Trump said--is a commonplace in many circles. It's basically a speech act of intimidation--keep it up and we'll start to ignore you. It also increases the acceptability, many quasi-crazies think, of threats of violence.

Extra-judicial attempts to influence and intimidate courts to reach an acceptable decision are common as dirt. It's not a bad thing just when Trump does it.

[Qutzupalotl]

23. Another possibility is he knows they'll rule against him

and is trying to get ahead of the ruling with a face-saving excuse.

[bucolic_frolic]

25. Donald Trump has tried to make the rule of law about politics

Any law that doesn't allow him to do as he pleases is a political law written and enforced against him. Landlord Mentality?

His humongous ego is attempting to steamroll everything in his path.

If SCOTUS cannot uphold the rule of law, then they are issuing political rulings and have allowed themselves to be rolled.

[SheilaAnn]

26. Heaven knows I am no fan of Clarence, not in the least bit but Sammy boy? He could be a huge problem. n/t

[malaise]

27. He knows he 's going down

Rule of law and all that.

Happy New Year Kentuck!

[rso]

28. RSO

Unlike many of the officials that Trump has threatened, SCOTUS justices have effective security available to them, so Donnie’s threats will not work .

[republianmushroom]

33. Hopefully he is correct about ruling "against him, both on the immunity charge and the ballot issues,"

but the reasoning will be because he did break the law.