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sarisataka

(22,696 posts)
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:46 PM Jan 2024

Jewish Rutgers law student could be expelled for exposing antisemitism: lawsuit

Jewish Rutgers law student could be expelled for exposing antisemitism: lawsuit

A Jewish law student at Rutgers University claims he could be expelled from the school after exposing antisemitic rhetoric on campus, according to a new lawsuit.

Yoel Ackerman alleges he was punished after he complained about another Rutgers law student who had allegedly published a social media video denying Hamas attacked Israelis on Oct. 7, according to court documents.

The Instagram video suggested that Jews exaggerated the attack and Israel was looking for a way to justify genocide against Palestinians, according to the complaint. The footage also referred to Palestinian fighters as kind and merciful on Oct. 7, lawyers said.

The lawsuit also alleges Rutgers faculty posted antisemitic rhetoric on social media, including one that suggested Israel was lying about the Hamas attack to “distract from its carnage in Gaza.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jewish-rutgers-law-student-could-be-expelled-for-exposing-antisemitism-lawsuit/ar-AA1mmtnJ?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=de0bd8d30d0241f38500fda202e3d26d&ei=13
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Jewish Rutgers law student could be expelled for exposing antisemitism: lawsuit (Original Post) sarisataka Jan 2024 OP
I'm going to respond to this via an OP PCIntern Jan 2024 #1
Please share it with us, PC. elleng Jan 2024 #2
Looking forward to reading that. yardwork Jan 2024 #14
What?! Cha Jan 2024 #3
This is fucked up how they try to gaslight everyone to redefine what happened and that babies weren't chopped up. SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #8
Yeah those Pro Cha Jan 2024 #18
They were not chopped up just put in the microwav Tickle Jan 2024 #22
The story I saw said all the babies were chopped up and beheaded. Is that not the case? SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #25
I don't know, I couldn't watch any of the videos Tickle Jan 2024 #26
I don't watch any of them. I can imagine what is described in the stories. That's fucking MORE than enough. SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #29
Since Rutgers is not commenting due to this being a lawsuit RAB910 Jan 2024 #4
Yes, we must remember it is ONE side sarisataka Jan 2024 #6
Strawman RAB910 Jan 2024 #7
Very familiar with the definition sarisataka Jan 2024 #9
When only one report side of a story, did you realistically expect there not to be people questioning the validity? RAB910 Jan 2024 #10
My reference was not limited to this article sarisataka Jan 2024 #11
Seeing how I have demonstrated that I am careful as to what I consider fact RAB910 Jan 2024 #12
I look forward to your future sarisataka Jan 2024 #13
So what differentiates your unsubstanciated claims RAB910 Jan 2024 #16
Outside of coming from a terrorist organization? sarisataka Jan 2024 #17
No kidding & as you know it's Not Cha Jan 2024 #19
Looks like he tried to cancel someone and got some push back. Bok_Tukalo Jan 2024 #5
How dare he point out bigotry that violates the university's policies. yardwork Jan 2024 #15
Rec TY! Cha Jan 2024 #21
What? Sorry that Cha Jan 2024 #20
Something definitely needs to be done with those that are anti-Semitic LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #23
This particular case has been festering for some time and this article is the only one I can find that references any WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #24
MAYBE THIS is why people don't like or trust higher education? reymega life Jan 2024 #27
K&R question everything Jan 2024 #28

PCIntern

(28,387 posts)
1. I'm going to respond to this via an OP
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:58 PM
Jan 2024

Which will be a story about a University of Alabama dental student who later became a colleague at Penn.

Cha

(319,167 posts)
3. What?!
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 02:27 PM
Jan 2024
The Instagram video suggested that Jews exaggerated the attack and Israel was looking for a way to justify genocide against Palestinians, according to the complaint. The footage also referred to Palestinian fighters as kind and merciful on Oct. 7, lawyers said.


I hope the best for Yoel Ackerman

SoFlaBro

(3,792 posts)
8. This is fucked up how they try to gaslight everyone to redefine what happened and that babies weren't chopped up.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jan 2024
 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
22. They were not chopped up just put in the microwav
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 05:02 PM
Jan 2024

The parents had to watch before they were raped and mutilated. That's all.

SoFlaBro

(3,792 posts)
25. The story I saw said all the babies were chopped up and beheaded. Is that not the case?
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 05:16 PM
Jan 2024
 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
26. I don't know, I couldn't watch any of the videos
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 05:20 PM
Jan 2024

I did read that at least a couple of babies were put in the microwave and the parents had to watch.

I will not look at the videos, the few I did see are still upsetting to me

SoFlaBro

(3,792 posts)
29. I don't watch any of them. I can imagine what is described in the stories. That's fucking MORE than enough.
Wed Jan 3, 2024, 06:51 AM
Jan 2024

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
4. Since Rutgers is not commenting due to this being a lawsuit
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 02:44 PM
Jan 2024

I am extremely mindful we have heard only ONE side of this story

sarisataka

(22,696 posts)
6. Yes, we must remember it is ONE side
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:30 PM
Jan 2024

And we know ["they"] lie and always play the victim.

It is only Palestinian sources that are implicitly trustworthy.




RAB910

(4,030 posts)
7. Strawman
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jan 2024

Straw man fallacy is the distortion of someone else’s argument to make it easier to attack or refute. Instead of addressing the actual argument of the opponent, one may present a somewhat similar but not equal argument.

By placing it in the opponent’s mouth and then attacking that version of the argument, one is essentially refuting an argument that is different from the one under discussion.

https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/straw-man-fallacy/

sarisataka

(22,696 posts)
9. Very familiar with the definition
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:36 PM
Jan 2024

As I see such arguments made daily.

Point missed is that I have yet to see a Palestinian supporter question a SINGLE claim against Israel or Jews. Yet any claim by such is nearly always doubted, even if corroborating evidence is provided.

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
10. When only one report side of a story, did you realistically expect there not to be people questioning the validity?
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:48 PM
Jan 2024

what corroborating evidence was provided for this story? I went back and I saw ZERO corroborating evidence in the article.

sarisataka

(22,696 posts)
11. My reference was not limited to this article
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:56 PM
Jan 2024

But to several incidents of antisemitism or terrorism that people have questioned.

There are those who claim October 7 didn't happen, that it was actuallyIsraelthat was responsible. Do you believe that claim?

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
12. Seeing how I have demonstrated that I am careful as to what I consider fact
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:01 PM
Jan 2024

why would you assume I would listen to "those who claim October 7th didn't happen"?


Here's the thing: you have accepted as fact a claim made by a single person with ZERO supporting evidence. How different is that from someone believing a claim by someone claiming October 7th didn't happen? In both cases, one CHOOSES to believe a single person and discards evidence and/or conflicting statements.

Facts matter, and one needs to be careful to determine what is and isn't a fact.

sarisataka

(22,696 posts)
13. I look forward to your future
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:12 PM
Jan 2024

vigorous reminders that we are only hearing one side of the story when Hamas makes a claim about Israel's actions

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
16. So what differentiates your unsubstanciated claims
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:22 PM
Jan 2024

from the unsubstantiated claims, you say you abhor?

sarisataka

(22,696 posts)
17. Outside of coming from a terrorist organization?
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:33 PM
Jan 2024

When terrorists who have shown something beyond callous disregard for human life, even those they claim to support, I will have doubt that adhering to the truth is a priority for them.

Likewise there have been some claims by Israel I hesitated to accept at face value, wisely in a couple of cases.

Referring to the OP, if you google Rutgers antisemitism, you will see reports of incidents going back years. That leads me to believe there may indeed be some validity to the suit.

yardwork

(69,370 posts)
15. How dare he point out bigotry that violates the university's policies.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:15 PM
Jan 2024

Do you feel the same way about internet sleuths who are identifying J6 participants?

Cha

(319,167 posts)
20. What? Sorry that
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:56 PM
Jan 2024

Doesn’t make any sense to me.

The Jewish Student is who is pushing back Against Anti Semitism.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
23. Something definitely needs to be done with those that are anti-Semitic
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 05:06 PM
Jan 2024

I was watching Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes yesterday. It seems like, maybe I'm wrong, we are having a problem like we did back in the 30's and 40's. Henry Ford being anti-Semitic and a supporter of Hitler.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,960 posts)
24. This particular case has been festering for some time and this article is the only one I can find that references any
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 05:10 PM
Jan 2024

threat to Mr. Ackerman being expelled.

For a more detailed look at how this has unfolded, the National Review (sorry!) has more details:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/rutgers-law-student-sues-school-for-ignoring-rampant-campus-antisemitism/

A Jewish law student has filed a lawsuit against Rutgers University, alleging administrators violated his right to an educational environment free from discrimination by turning a blind eye to campus antisemitism.

“Yoel Ackerman is being targeted by Rutgers for standing up to anti-semitism. This lawsuit is just one step in our quest to change the culture at Rutgers which has allowed antisemitism to fester,” David Mazie, his legal representative, told National Review in a statement on Tuesday afternoon.

Ackerman landed in trouble after calling out a Palestinian law student for sharing an Instagram video within a Student Bar Association (SBA) group chat purporting to expose “3 lies being told about Palestine.” The clip sought to debunk the claim that “people were raped” during the October 7 atrocities and that “250 people were killed at a concert.”

(snip)

Ackerman challenged the student to explain why they were sharing a misleading, inflammatory video in an academic group chat.


And it goes from there. The other student appears to have accused Ackerman of defamation and Ackerman was impeached/removed from SBA -- a group he says he didn't want to be a member of anyway -- got the ACLJ involved, Rutgers shut down the SBA and then reinstated it, and now here we are.

Most of this info comes from right-wing sources, so...we'll see how it continues to fester.
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