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underpants

(197,167 posts)
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 03:20 PM Jan 2024

Eric Trump claims profits from foreign countries were donated to U.S. Treasury

Eric Trump is denying the new report from Democrats in Congress that his family raked in millions from foreign nations while his father was in office by saying he gave money to the government.

After the House Oversight Committee Democrats released a nearly 200-page report on Thursday about the Trump Organization's profits from foreign countries, the former President Donald Trump's youngest son proclaimed they donated every dime to the U.S. Treasury.

“What a joke!" Eric Trump wrote on social media. "All foreign government profits, for stays at our hotels and other properties while my father was in office, were voluntaraly (sic) donated to the United States Treasury."

Thus far, the younger Trump hasn't shown any evidence showing the millions in profits were transferred to the government.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-org-profit-donation/

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Eric Trump claims profits from foreign countries were donated to U.S. Treasury (Original Post) underpants Jan 2024 OP
This lie will be exposed malaise Jan 2024 #1
Yeah, right. Who believes that? brush Jan 2024 #2
When I hear the word "tRump" the first thing I think of is a donation Blue Owl Jan 2024 #28
Got a receipt, Gums? gratuitous Jan 2024 #3
The idea of Trump letting one dollar out of his hands is a joke underpants Jan 2024 #4
"The dog ate them" central scrutinizer Jan 2024 #15
Like Trump voluntarily returned the classified documents he stole Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #5
Then show the paperwork Maeve Jan 2024 #6
If this really happened Trump would have been crowing from day one. Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #7
Word! Brother Buzz Jan 2024 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jan 2024 #17
Ok. Good link underpants Jan 2024 #19
Yeah, google a quote from Trump or one of his henchmen. Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #22
So you are saying the House Democrats are lying? Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #24
The article also states: sheshe2 Jan 2024 #32
I know, I saw it. WarGamer Jan 2024 #35
Always Helps To Read All the Way Through, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2024 #33
irrelevant... I was simply addressing the lack of googling WarGamer Jan 2024 #34
Worthless, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2024 #36
Again... not my argument. WarGamer Jan 2024 #37
Neither My Monkey Nor My Circus Either, Fella The Magistrate Jan 2024 #38
Agreed. I'll leave you with something I'm sure we can BOTH agree on. WarGamer Jan 2024 #39
This Statement By Young Trump, Sir, Opens Things Up A Bit The Magistrate Jan 2024 #41
Moving the goalposts again... WarGamer Jan 2024 #42
I Agree A Good Deal Of Silliness Is Being Committed Here, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2024 #44
Have a good evening. WarGamer Jan 2024 #45
Will you quit it please? Dave says Jan 2024 #48
Oops. Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #49
Of course, payments for hotel rooms, etc... this isn't news. What do you mean by oops? WarGamer Jan 2024 #68
And oops he kept them and returned nothing. Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #70
Still didn't notify Congress as REQUIRED by the Constitution of the United States. Justice matters. Jan 2024 #59
better write a strongly worded letter to Merrick Garland. WarGamer Jan 2024 #69
I gather the nimrod drew the short straw Brother Buzz Jan 2024 #8
He just clicked the DONATE button on the US Treasury website Prairie Gates Jan 2024 #10
"Also please donate funds to this children's cancer fundraiser" Docreed2003 Jan 2024 #11
Grifters go to grift bpj62 Jan 2024 #12
I fell onto the floor laughing at this absurd scenario. Yeah right! Diamond_Dog Jan 2024 #13
This from the guy MurrayDelph Jan 2024 #14
I'm sure that right after that claim, he senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #16
...said they guy who stole from a charity for kids with cancer. NM Grins Jan 2024 #18
Don't worry, hildegaard28 Jan 2024 #20
How could he know that? yonder Jan 2024 #21
Was he under oath? mobeau69 Jan 2024 #53
No. Looks like my thinking cap was not in place. yonder Jan 2024 #66
Well, he needs to be placed under oath. mobeau69 Jan 2024 #67
Diarrhea Donny has a toilet paper trail Blue Owl Jan 2024 #23
"Last thing, Mr. Trump, what name do you want to call this new account you're setting up?" tanyev Jan 2024 #25
underpants Jan 2024 #27
Profit? Most of us "donate" part of our income to the US treasury, it's called taxes Walleye Jan 2024 #26
Riiiiight sakabatou Jan 2024 #29
After paying myself and daddy, there was $1.38 in profits left. Chainfire Jan 2024 #30
Exactly. He's got the creative accountants working for him. captain queeg Jan 2024 #31
eric lies as much as his old man. republianmushroom Jan 2024 #40
opps Conjuay Jan 2024 #43
As Judge Judy would say Conjuay Jan 2024 #46
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #47
The old "turning over the profits" con only works when one... Hugin Jan 2024 #50
IF that were true, OrangeHead would have blitzed Fox News for months about it bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #51
IOW, Daddy didn't give him any of it... Wounded Bear Jan 2024 #52
One would think that would be easy to prove or disprove. sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #54
The "donation" of "profits" to the Treasury is discussed at length in the staff report onenote Jan 2024 #55
"Voluntary" very typical Trump underpants Jan 2024 #56
Sure, Jan flakey_foont Jan 2024 #57
Another Trump lie--- Kingofalldems Jan 2024 #58
Guy thinks that coke dealers pay taxes. Lol Oneironaut Jan 2024 #60
Pretty simple to provide that burden of proof... EarthFirst Jan 2024 #61
Right, and David Koch left $10 billion to the American Cancer Society. DFW Jan 2024 #62
"After we took all our fees, costs of doing businees nad everything else, the profit came to $27.37." Wonder Why Jan 2024 #63
Forrest Gump officially made no money underpants Jan 2024 #64
Well I have never known a Trump to lie, lol. Emile Jan 2024 #65

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Got a receipt, Gums?
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 03:25 PM
Jan 2024

How about a tax return showing that donation? Color me cynical, but I'm afraid I don't trust the unsupported word of anyone in your miserable family.

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)

underpants

(197,167 posts)
19. Ok. Good link
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 04:37 PM
Jan 2024

This is from Trump’s accounting people?
Can you really imagine him paying out ALL the money he got from foreign governments?

sheshe2

(98,429 posts)
32. The article also states:
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 07:54 PM
Jan 2024
The size of the payment was not disclosed. The transactions the payment was based on and the foreign governments involved were also not disclosed.

snip
The payment "is woefully inadequate," said Noah Bookbinder, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a plaintiff in one of the lawsuits.

The payments are calculated on profits from foreign governments at Trump hotels and similar properties, as explained in a pamphlet from the Trump Organization. The calculation does not include other profits — for example, on rent paid by the government of China for space at Trump Tower — or non-monetary benefits for Trump properties in other countries, or payments or benefits from state governments.

Bookbinder said that even if those problems were solved, the president might be influenced simply by knowing that foreign officials stayed at his properties.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
33. Always Helps To Read All the Way Through, Sir
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jan 2024
The payment "is woefully inadequate," said Noah Bookbinder, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a plaintiff in one of the lawsuits.

The payments are calculated on profits from foreign governments at Trump hotels and similar properties, as explained in a pamphlet from the Trump Organization. The calculation does not include other profits — for example, on rent paid by the government of China for space at Trump Tower — or non-monetary benefits for Trump properties in other countries, or payments or benefits from state governments.



And even with this, note the dependence on 'calculations' of profit prepared by a company already found liable for fraud on a scale of billions. I'm more likely to believe a police officer who says he feared for his life than a Trump Org accountant's figures.

WarGamer

(18,855 posts)
34. irrelevant... I was simply addressing the lack of googling
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 08:18 PM
Jan 2024

It clearly says payment was verified by the Treasury.

I'm not arguing that it was FAIR, I'm simply pointing out that this thread isn't quite accurate.

I thought you'd pick up on that, dear Magistrate.

Moving goal posts isn't winning an argument.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
36. Worthless, Sir
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 08:33 PM
Jan 2024

The Treasury giving a receipt for some sum received says nothing about whether the real profits were actually equivalent to that sum, and on the record, there is no reason to believe the amount paid over does reflect actual profits.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
38. Neither My Monkey Nor My Circus Either, Fella
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 08:40 PM
Jan 2024

Reflexive contrarianism is a heavy burden to bear, I hope you can manage getting out from under it.


"We're all rootin' for ya!"



WarGamer

(18,855 posts)
39. Agreed. I'll leave you with something I'm sure we can BOTH agree on.
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 08:43 PM
Jan 2024

If a thread starts out with the line "Winless Carolina Panthers looking to draft a new Quarterback"

Someone points out that the Panthers are NOT winless... that person doesn't need to be hit with a littany of posts talking about how BAD the Panthers are. That was never the point. The point was a misstatement to start the whole deal...

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
41. This Statement By Young Trump, Sir, Opens Things Up A Bit
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 09:03 PM
Jan 2024
"All foreign government profits, for stays at our hotels and other properties while my father was in office, were voluntaraly (sic) donated to the United States Treasury."


That 'all' is, to put it mildly, likely a lie. What you posted is far from establishing it is not, and that all profits actually realized were paid in.

WarGamer

(18,855 posts)
42. Moving the goalposts again...
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 09:06 PM
Jan 2024

I never claimed any of this was accurate or fair... I don't know if they paid $30 or $3,000,000

I was responding to a very specific claim. I googled it and answered the question.

Adding more to this is really silly. Of course Trumps lie... that's what they do. But we a story from NPR in 2018, verified by the Treasury that they paid SOMETHING.

If you can find out the amount of that payment... or how the profit was calculated... let's see it.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
44. I Agree A Good Deal Of Silliness Is Being Committed Here, Sir
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jan 2024

I leave it to the audience to conclude by whom and in what degree, with confidence in their judgement.


"I find if I leave my pants cuff caught in the top of a sock, people expect less of me."



Dave says

(5,468 posts)
48. Will you quit it please?
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 09:49 PM
Jan 2024

I, and most likely all of us, got your point many posts ago. What you’re saying (it seems) is you posted something of little weight in this thread. Thank you for your efforts.

Justice matters.

(10,066 posts)
59. Still didn't notify Congress as REQUIRED by the Constitution of the United States.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:03 PM
Jan 2024

And wait for approval...

Prairie Gates

(8,475 posts)
10. He just clicked the DONATE button on the US Treasury website
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jan 2024

then navigated to "foreign millions" in his bank statement.



Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
11. "Also please donate funds to this children's cancer fundraiser"
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 03:44 PM
Jan 2024

🙄🙄sure Eric, we believe you!

bpj62

(1,068 posts)
12. Grifters go to grift
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 03:46 PM
Jan 2024

So the son of greatest grifter this country has ever seen expects us to believe that his father would allow any profits to be given away to anybody let alone the federal government. His own father pitched a fit when he found out that money donated to the inauguration fund wasn't his. He is quoted as saying that it was his money. Eric himself was accused of overcharging a children's cancer charity that booked a golf event at one of the Trump Courses. This was one of the allegations led to the Trump Foundation being shut down and all of the Trump children being forbidden from being on any future charitable foundation boards.
The gaslighting by this family is epic.

MurrayDelph

(5,775 posts)
14. This from the guy
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 03:58 PM
Jan 2024

who claimed they were giving a special discount rate to the Secret Service.

hildegaard28

(792 posts)
20. Don't worry,
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 04:56 PM
Jan 2024

Little Eric is just confused. He thinks the U.S. Treasury was his family's personal piggy bank. That's why he says it was "donated" to the U.S. Treasury. He means it was donated to the Trump family as a gift.

yonder

(10,314 posts)
21. How could he know that?
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 05:34 PM
Jan 2024

Didn't the Trump's testify that the nuts and bolts daily operations were handled by "others" in their New York Civil fraud trial? How would Eric know about donations of foreign government profits?

Did he just perjure himself?

tanyev

(49,671 posts)
25. "Last thing, Mr. Trump, what name do you want to call this new account you're setting up?"
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 06:42 PM
Jan 2024
"United States Treasury."

"[click, click, click] Very good, sir, you're all done. Have a nice day!"

Hugin

(37,991 posts)
50. The old "turning over the profits" con only works when one...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:22 AM
Jan 2024

Isn’t also charged with accounting fraud and money laundering. Y’know, keeping more than one set of books.

Rookie mistake, Gums.

Say, aren’t you late for a fishing trip?

onenote

(46,227 posts)
55. The "donation" of "profits" to the Treasury is discussed at length in the staff report
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:45 AM
Jan 2024

See discussion starting at page 25.

https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2024-01-04.COA%20DEMS%20-%20Mazars%20Report.pdf

Note that the staff report uses the term "profit" broadly to include all revenues, not net profits, which apparently is what Trump claimed to be donating.

underpants

(197,167 posts)
56. "Voluntary" very typical Trump
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:15 PM
Jan 2024

I’m doing you a favor and you should appreciate it!

Stated that they weren’t even going to try and ID emoluments. The info the Committee got was from the foreign entities. Jesus.

Kingofalldems

(40,366 posts)
58. Another Trump lie---
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:30 PM
Jan 2024

actually confirmed as a lie by Donald J Trump.

He threw his own son under the bus.

Oneironaut

(6,320 posts)
60. Guy thinks that coke dealers pay taxes. Lol
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:06 PM
Jan 2024

That lovely Chinese cash mined another centimeter or two out of Junior’s sinuses.

EarthFirst

(4,218 posts)
61. Pretty simple to provide that burden of proof...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:08 PM
Jan 2024

…however it will be a lengthy process of delay and deflect.

DFW

(60,429 posts)
62. Right, and David Koch left $10 billion to the American Cancer Society.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:12 PM
Jan 2024

I'll leave you the evidence in my will.

Wonder Why

(7,232 posts)
63. "After we took all our fees, costs of doing businees nad everything else, the profit came to $27.37."
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 02:29 PM
Jan 2024

There are profits and there are profits. A lot of movie/TV series stars got taken because they settled for a share of the profits instead of a much smaller share of the gross when it turned out that, because of other costs, there were somehow no profits on a movie or TV series that grossed hundreds of millions so the actors/actress share turned out to be zero.

When the first U.S. Transcontinental RR was built, both Union Pacific and Central Pacific lost money and went bankrupt even with all the government grants of money and land. Turns out their execs grossly overpaid their own privately owned companies to do the work and those companies paid big dividends leaving the RRs with no money to operate.

underpants

(197,167 posts)
64. Forrest Gump officially made no money
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:18 PM
Jan 2024

Hollywood accounting.

As you probably know, Winston Groom got $350k for the book rights and 3% of net. Thanks to Hollywood accounting, the movie that made $678M worldwide didn’t actually make any money. Box office link below.


Groom did settle. Not sure if the amount but I’m sure it was a lot. Paramount was worried other authors wouldn’t sell them rights.
https://www.deseret.com/1995/6/16/19177386/paramount-finds-author-of-gump-is-no-bonehead

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0109830/

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