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In It to Win It

(12,670 posts)
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:47 PM Jan 2024

Jan. 6 participant Ashli Babbitt's husband, conservative group file a wrongful death suit against U.S. government

Jan. 6 participant Ashli Babbitt's husband, conservative group file a wrongful death suit against U.S. government


A conservative activist group on Friday sued the U.S. government for $30 million over the alleged wrongful death of Ashli Babbitt who was shot and killed by law enforcement during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Judicial Watch attorneys filed the complaint in federal court in California, on behalf of Babbitt's estate and husband, Aaron Babbitt, for wrongful death and assault and battery. The suit claims U.S. Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd was negligent when he fired a single fatal shot that struck Babbitt, a supporter of Donald Trump who joined a mob that broke into the Capitol trying to halt the certification of his electoral loss, in the shoulder as she climbed through a door leading to the House chamber. Lawmakers were being evacuated from the House floor.

"The facts speak truth. Ashli was ambushed when she was shot by Lt. Byrd," they wrote.

The lawsuit alleges that Babbitt, an Air Force veteran who was a decorated security forces controller, had traveled to Washington from her home in San Diego, Calif., to attend the Save America rally on Jan. 6, where Trump delivered a speech outside the White House.

"Ashli did not go to Washington as part of a group or for any unlawful or nefarious purpose," they wrote, adding that Babbitt was unarmed and "posed no threat to the safety of anyone."
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Jan. 6 participant Ashli Babbitt's husband, conservative group file a wrongful death suit against U.S. government (Original Post) In It to Win It Jan 2024 OP
Can the government counter sue? Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #1
For what? Patton French Jan 2024 #39
She attacked the capitol Marthe48 Jan 2024 #2
The mob broke the window above the door. John1956PA Jan 2024 #7
I watched a replay to the point where she was shot Marthe48 Jan 2024 #14
Thank you. I watched the video when it was released almost three years ago. John1956PA Jan 2024 #25
Oh go fuck right the fuck off! Initech Jan 2024 #3
The suit has as much chance as a snowball in hell. ificandream Jan 2024 #4
Why didn't she comply with law enforcement commands? tanyev Jan 2024 #5
She was battering down the doors of Congress in commission TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #6
Good luck with that, asswipes. 2naSalit Jan 2024 #8
Seriously, if you want to sue the people responsible for Ashlii Babbitt's death... Initech Jan 2024 #42
Exactly. 2naSalit Jan 2024 #44
"The facts speak truth. Ashli was ambushed when she was shot by Lt. Byrd," they wrote. spanone Jan 2024 #9
Can't we tell them "to get over it"? IcyPeas Jan 2024 #10
Right, security should've let her stroll right in, no questions asked. sakabatou Jan 2024 #11
gmafb! nt ecstatic Jan 2024 #12
So few people in this life actually get what they ask for. Or in this case, Maru Kitteh Jan 2024 #13
saffron Yahweh Celerity Jan 2024 #26
Saffron Yahweh TSExile Jan 2024 #36
The risk you take when multigraincracker Jan 2024 #15
She was an a-hole JustAnotherGen Jan 2024 #16
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Takket Jan 2024 #17
"Back the blue"? Right GOP? Takket Jan 2024 #18
There won't be any legal liability. No Jury would go along with it... WarGamer Jan 2024 #19
... Faux pas Jan 2024 #20
May the worse happen to her husband and the group. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #21
These idiots could not find a real attorney to take the case LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #22
Conservative cash being flushed down the toilet...I'm actually okay with that pecosbob Jan 2024 #23
Should have shot and killed every single one of them who entered the building MichMan Jan 2024 #24
They'd have stampeded out. They don't mind martyrs and talk a big line of "if it were me", but they'd have pissed ... marble falls Jan 2024 #29
Right, would have ended the whole thing before it even got going MichMan Jan 2024 #31
Suing cops and the federal government is a tough row to hoe. marble falls Jan 2024 #27
I was kind of surprised that the statute of limitations hadn't already run. Frasier Balzov Jan 2024 #37
A very hard issue to prove when she had no right to be there and she used weapons to break in ... marble falls Jan 2024 #41
Glad I wasn't there lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #28
If she hadn't watched Fox News and worshipped Trump, she'd still be alive underpants Jan 2024 #30
Statute of limitations in DC is three years. deminks Jan 2024 #32
Sorry, no pay off for Ashli's dumb decisions. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2024 #33
Wrongful? She was committing a felony trying to not only to probably assault and murder members of the government, Liberal In Texas Jan 2024 #34
I would have prefered fatal force wasn't used, but she did aak for it. patphil Jan 2024 #35
id love to see the lawyer filing it get sanctioned moonshinegnomie Jan 2024 #38
Nope. Not going to happen. When you're breaking through a window to get to members of Congress Vinca Jan 2024 #40
I remember saying that day, why aren't they shooting Emile Jan 2024 #43
My veteran son texted, "Ashley Babbit is three years sober today". maveric Jan 2024 #45
Why would anyone feel threatened in this situation? struggle4progress Jan 2024 #46

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
39. For what?
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 09:25 AM
Jan 2024

What claim does the government have against her husband?

More likely, the lawsuit will be dismissed and the government can seek its costs and possibly attorney’s fees.

Marthe48

(23,278 posts)
2. She attacked the capitol
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:51 PM
Jan 2024

People defending the capitol, and unarmed elected officials inside, stood their ground and defended themselves and the officials from a mad dog attack by maga rwnj.

I almost got through the post before I lost it.

John1956PA

(5,017 posts)
7. The mob broke the window above the door.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:59 PM
Jan 2024

She was the first, and the last, person who tried to get through the opening created by the broken-out glass pane. The officer and others inside the closed room were in danger of being killed by the mob. The officer fired in self-defense as Mrs. Babbitt was making her way through the opening. In my opinion, there are no grounds for a wrongful death lawsuit.

John1956PA

(5,017 posts)
25. Thank you. I watched the video when it was released almost three years ago.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 11:21 PM
Jan 2024

When I typed my above reply, I was relying on my memory of the video. I agree with your above comment that it is difficult to read the news story about the filing of the lawsuit without becoming enraged at the lies that the plaintiff is setting forth. Take care. John

Initech

(108,966 posts)
3. Oh go fuck right the fuck off!
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:51 PM
Jan 2024

Ashlii Babbitt would still be alive if she hadn't listened to Trump and Alex Jones and went down the internet conspiracy theory wormhole. She participated in an uprising to overthrow the government and overturn a free and fair election. That's a fucking crime. Get over yourselves, losers.

ificandream

(11,844 posts)
4. The suit has as much chance as a snowball in hell.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:55 PM
Jan 2024

She was in the Capitol in a group attacking law enforcement. The fact that magats keep making her a hero/martyr is the most absurd thing on earth. I hope the judge laughs them out of court.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
6. She was battering down the doors of Congress in commission
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:56 PM
Jan 2024

of an Insurgency.

She is exactly where she is supposed to be and all of her comrades should have joined her or be scheduled to do so.

Initech

(108,966 posts)
42. Seriously, if you want to sue the people responsible for Ashlii Babbitt's death...
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 03:17 PM
Jan 2024

Then go sue Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, the list goes on.

Ashlii Babbitt would still be alive if she hadn't been radicalized by extremist propaganda. The bottom line is that right wing propaganda kills.

spanone

(141,851 posts)
9. "The facts speak truth. Ashli was ambushed when she was shot by Lt. Byrd," they wrote.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 10:04 PM
Jan 2024

She was attacking the Congress of the United States of America. Ambushed my ass.

Show the video, end of suit.

These fuckers have zero shame.

sakabatou

(46,202 posts)
11. Right, security should've let her stroll right in, no questions asked.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 10:05 PM
Jan 2024

I mean, it's not like she broke into the place. Oh wait.

Maru Kitteh

(31,880 posts)
13. So few people in this life actually get what they ask for. Or in this case,
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 10:14 PM
Jan 2024

what they so richly deserve. Ashley did.

She wanted to be a martyr for her saffron Yahweh. She took up arms against her country. Her wish was granted.

Takket

(23,747 posts)
17. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 10:20 PM
Jan 2024

Good luck with that ROFL!!!!!!!!!!

This has been investigated multiple times over with no wrongdoing found.

Kindly go fuck yourselves. Your wife was a traitor and her hatred for her country did FAR more towards getting her killed than that bullet did.

WarGamer

(18,748 posts)
19. There won't be any legal liability. No Jury would go along with it...
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 10:28 PM
Jan 2024

It was an interesting scene.

Think of the video of the incident. The group of rioters pushing up against the doors were sandwiched by a group of SWAT officers from behind and the door to their front.

Within seconds after the shooting, they were surrounded by officers.

They weren't going anywhere... a foolish bunch of jackasses costing a woman her life.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,697 posts)
22. These idiots could not find a real attorney to take the case
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 10:46 PM
Jan 2024

I am amused to see that Judicial Watch is representing these idiots

pecosbob

(8,429 posts)
23. Conservative cash being flushed down the toilet...I'm actually okay with that
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 11:02 PM
Jan 2024

Those legal expenses would otherwise be used for bad purpose.

marble falls

(72,184 posts)
29. They'd have stampeded out. They don't mind martyrs and talk a big line of "if it were me", but they'd have pissed ...
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 11:29 PM
Jan 2024

... themselves getting gone. If they were so committed, why have they stayed scarce when TFG tried to call them to the streets when he was indicted?

Frasier Balzov

(5,079 posts)
37. I was kind of surprised that the statute of limitations hadn't already run.
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 02:26 AM
Jan 2024

However, Ben Crump says it's four years for wrongful death alleged to have been caused by the government

marble falls

(72,184 posts)
41. A very hard issue to prove when she had no right to be there and she used weapons to break in ...
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 10:02 AM
Jan 2024

... while yelling seditionist crap.

She was not shot while trying to retreat. She was the point off a gang of seditionists breaking in.

lapfog_1

(31,935 posts)
28. Glad I wasn't there
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 11:27 PM
Jan 2024

If I had been, and I had some sort of weapon, there would have been dozens of these assholes dead on the capitol steps.

deminks

(11,532 posts)
32. Statute of limitations in DC is three years.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 11:43 PM
Jan 2024

Filed before it runs, IMHO. I imagine it will be tossed.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,348 posts)
33. Sorry, no pay off for Ashli's dumb decisions.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 11:43 PM
Jan 2024

Hope you have to pay court costs back to US taxpayers,

Liberal In Texas

(16,325 posts)
34. Wrongful? She was committing a felony trying to not only to probably assault and murder members of the government,
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 11:51 PM
Jan 2024

but to overthrow the legitimate government of the United States. She was stopped from doing this by a law enforcement agent with deadly force, which was necessary considering the situation that hundreds or thousands of dangerous insurrectionists were going to follow her into the legislative chambers.



patphil

(9,143 posts)
35. I would have prefered fatal force wasn't used, but she did aak for it.
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 12:15 AM
Jan 2024

She was part of a large group that attacked the Capitol, and threatened the lives of our legislators.
It's too bad she's dead, but if she didn't go into the Capitol with that mob she'd be alive today.
Her shooting stopped that mob cold. Who knows what would have happened if they gained access to that room.

Vinca

(54,151 posts)
40. Nope. Not going to happen. When you're breaking through a window to get to members of Congress
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 09:28 AM
Jan 2024

to harm them, it's a justified shooting. Her death is her fault.

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