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Nevilledog

(55,134 posts)
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 03:02 PM Jan 2024

Trump did not sign Illinois' loyalty oath that says he won't advocate for overthrowing the government

https://www.wbez.org/stories/trump-did-not-sign-illinois-candidate-loyalty-oath/1d1fbaf4-261f-4c15-b466-8fb749d404e1


Republican Donald Trump didn’t submit a state loyalty oath that candidates in Illinois have been signing for more than a half century that asserts they won’t “advocate the overthrow of the government” — a pledge that holds new resonance on the third anniversary of the Jan. 6th insurrection.

That’s a departure his presidential campaign is not explaining after Trump signed and submitted the document to Illinois election authorities for both the 2016 and 2020 election cycles, when he ran against Democrats Hillary Clinton and President Joe Biden, respectively.

Under Illinois law, presidential candidates wanting to be on the state’s March 19th primary ballot had to turn in their nominating petitions to the State Board of Elections on Thursday or Friday, and the loyalty oath is a time-honored part of that process.

A WBEZ/Chicago Sun-Times analysis of those petitions found Biden and Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis both signed the oath — as did several lower-tier Trump acolytes in Illinois, but not Trump.

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Trump did not sign Illinois' loyalty oath that says he won't advocate for overthrowing the government (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2024 OP
My first reaction was "At least he's being honest", but then my head exploded. Midnight Writer Jan 2024 #1
Illinois put the loyalty oath in 1951 as part of the Red Scare. former9thward Jan 2024 #2
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2024 #4
Why is this celebratory? berniesandersmittens Jan 2024 #6
Can you elaborate ornotna Jan 2024 #7
Care to tell us why this makes you celebrate? Or did you land in the wrong place? Hekate Jan 2024 #8
That he refused to sign should tell us all we need to know. B.See Jan 2024 #5

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
2. Illinois put the loyalty oath in 1951 as part of the Red Scare.
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jan 2024

A federal judge tossed it out in 1972. Today candidates do not have to sign it but may if they wish.

Is Illinois’ loyalty oath a waste of taxpayers’ money? Or just a ‘dated Cold War scare tactic?’


https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/1/27/21110885/illinois-loyalty-oath-communist-mccarthy-era

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B.See

(8,850 posts)
5. That he refused to sign should tell us all we need to know.
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 07:17 PM
Jan 2024

That and the fact that he cozies up to despots, authoritarians, and dictators, and just LOVES the idea of Xi's "president for life" status.

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