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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***BREAKING*** Trump says Civil War 'could have been negotiated'
Former President Donald Trump on Saturday suggested the Civil War could have been avoided through negotiation, arguing that the fight to end slavery in the US was ultimately unnecessary and that Abraham Lincoln should have done more to avoid bloodshed.
So many mistakes were made. See, there was something I think could have been negotiated, to be honest with you, Trump said at a campaign event in Newton, Iowa. I think you could have negotiated that. All the people died. So many people died.
The former presidents comments come a little over a week before the first-in-the-nation caucuses in Iowa, where he has a significant lead in the polls over his closest rivals, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/06/politics/trump-civil-war-negotiated/index.html
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,364 posts)PittBlue
(4,890 posts)He would be dead now.
chicoescuela
(3,363 posts)Ocelot II
(131,912 posts)He would have been a much better president than Lincoln. He wouldn't even have had to free the slaves!
dalton99a
(96,421 posts)Captain Zero
(8,973 posts)Have enough witch doctors working on this nutcase?
TheBlackAdder
(29,984 posts)Confederates hate Lincoln, so this must be extra salt on that Party of Lincoln boast GOPers make.
underpants
(197,946 posts)
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)underpants
(197,946 posts)theyd end up negotiating for the East.
and Russia would still have Alaska.
2naSalit
(105,059 posts)Proof is needed?
The media reports the bogus poll numbers (many are sponsored or conducted by the media reporting) to justify their over the top coverage of the one unqualified "candidate".
Like his buddy, bibi over in the middle east, he'll commit any crime or atrocity to obtain and hold on to power over other people so that they can ensure they will never face accountability.
Time we wise up and deal with the problem, and soon, or we will have no hope of averting our extinction in the near future.
Squaredeal
(752 posts)After all, so many senseless lives were lost, according to his reasoning. We could have had, Peace in our time.
Did his MAGA crowd clap when that came out of his mouth?
lastlib
(28,887 posts)Remember what Prescott Bush said? "If only I could have talked to Mr. Hitler, this could have all been avoided."...
Ocelot II
(131,912 posts)Squaredeal
(752 posts)After all, so many senseless lives were lost, according to his reasoning. We could have had, Peace in our time.
Did his MAGA crowd clap when that came out of his mouth?
Kid Berwyn
(25,589 posts)
Until now, no one had ever been treated so badly. Sir! Sir!
limbicnuminousity
(1,417 posts)but close enough. AI generated art:
https://www.craiyon.com/image/HEFmX4eZSlWh5JNe2Z3hbg
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Fucking moron just spews any stupid shit that enters his ignorant brain and all those idiots have enabled him by ignoring and rationalizing it for so long that he thinks it all fucking brilliant.
Rafi
(294 posts)Did he mention if the south had had more aircraft carriers they could have won?
lastlib
(28,887 posts)idiot strategists like Lee......
ITAL
(1,454 posts)And not just by pro-Confederate types. Historian David Goldfield wrote a really good book on the Civil War about ten years ago where he more or less argued the point at the concluding chapter or two. The problem is, folks like that, when they calculate the cost of the war and say that (as Goldfield does), that the war cost X Billion dollars and that if the US Government had just bought the slaves at a market value and freed them it would have cost half that price in treasure (not to mention the lives) -- they don't seem to realize that you need to have a willing seller in addition to a willing buyer. Sure some southerners may have been willing to do a "buyback" program, but the vast majority NEER would have.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)Under the right circumstances.
If states voted to allow it for example.
It would just take a twist of the law, a nod by scotus, and people (women) could be owned by corporations or even individuals (husbands).
Someone should ask him.
malaise
(299,870 posts)His sister and niece told us that he didnt even sit his own college entrance exam. What the fuck does he know about history?
sakabatou
(46,575 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(20,055 posts)And he's still hung up on "treason."
cilla4progress
(26,526 posts)All of them
GreenWave
(12,895 posts)Bayard
(30,754 posts)So, he will enslave all black people again when he is declared dictator for life? I'm sure he'd start with Kamala Harris and the Obamas.
He continues to prove that he is an insurrectionist.
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,360 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)Grant laid out the terms and Lee accepted.
thucythucy
(9,175 posts)and seized the rebel airports.
Honestly, Trump's ignorance is surpassed only by his arrogance.