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Celerity

(54,878 posts)
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 07:06 AM Jan 2024

Supreme Commander of the Swedish Armed Forces warns: Everyone in Sweden must be prepared for war

translated, with some light editing by myself for clarity

All Swedes must mentally prepare for the possibility of war in Sweden. This is what Commander-in-Chief Micael Bydén thinks. We must have citizens who understand how serious the situation is and it can get worse for us too, says Bydén in an interview with TV4.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/bgpee5/ob-alla-svenskar-maste-forbereda-sig-for-krig


Micael Bydén, Commander-in-Chief. Photo: Björn Lindahl


Yesterday, the Minister of Civil Defence's Carl-Oscar Bohlin spoke at the People and Defense National Conference. He stated that "there could be war in Sweden". He is concerned that the rearmament of the civil defense is not going fast enough. 'If anything keeps me awake at night, it is precisely that it is going too slowly', Bohlin said in his speech.

He urged all residents to "get started" immediately and that those who have not started are still behind. Furthermore, he mentioned a number of suggestions that you can adopt depending on whether you are the head of an authority, a municipal councillor, an employee or a private person. 'If you are a private person, great! Have you taken responsibility for your home preparedness?, have you thought about whether you have time to join a voluntary defense organization? If not, get started', advised Bohlin.

This Monday morning, Commander-in-Chief Micael Bydén spoke about the situation, he is also on site in Sälen for this year's defense conference. He shares Bohlin's stance - adding that all Swedes should prepare for a war in Sweden. 'We must understand how serious this situation really is and that, down to the individual level, you mentally prepare. Watch the news coverage from Ukraine and ask yourself the simple questions: If this is happening here, do I have things in place? What should I do? The more people who have thought, pondered and prepared, the stronger our society is', said Bydén in TV4's Nyhetsmorgon .

Bydén says the situation is not pitch black but emphasizes the importance of preparation measures and mindset. 'If you are not stationed for military action and have to report and instead you have a job to go to, then make sure that the social functions that are important work continue to function, in areas such as child care, elderly care, healthcare. etc. We have citizens who need to understand now that this is serious and it can get worse for us too, but don't give up hope', says Bydén to the channel.

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Supreme Commander of the Swedish Armed Forces warns: Everyone in Sweden must be prepared for war (Original Post) Celerity Jan 2024 OP
Human nature is first of the warning........................................ Lovie777 Jan 2024 #1
It's the combination of high intelligence and greed Buckeyeblue Jan 2024 #2
This is terrifying Easterncedar Jan 2024 #3
It is indeed terrifying. Delphinus Jan 2024 #7
Actually, in the end, we're doomed.... The human race will destruct itself. ashredux Jan 2024 #4
I imagine this was necessary after both Sweden and Finland recently became NATO members. sop Jan 2024 #5
Sweden isn't in yet. carpetbagger Jan 2024 #10
During a NATO summit last July, Turkey's President Erdogan agreed to let Sweden into the alliance, sop Jan 2024 #12
The Turkish parliament's foreign affairs committee approved our bid, but the full assembly has yet to vote. Celerity Jan 2024 #17
No "probably" about it... 2naSalit Jan 2024 #11
Autocrats like DeSantis and Abbott are busing immigrants to blue states. sop Jan 2024 #13
It would be helpful if self-interested Americans start demanding funding for Ukraine. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 2024 #6
There is alot of rumors of similar civil war scenarios in usa oldmanlynn Jan 2024 #8
I felt this way when Trump was first elected. Developed a spreadsheet with an entire plan... Joinfortmill Jan 2024 #9
Supreme Commander Byden is not speaking about civil war here in Sweden, he is taking about Russia potentially attacking. Celerity Jan 2024 #16
You too? Ferryboat Jan 2024 #19
The chair is against the wall. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #20
Trump will build a Mexican-paid-for Dome over them, and a wall to protect Russia bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #14
Are they expecting Russia to expand the war? IronLionZion Jan 2024 #15
Are you ready to muster? BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #18
Source Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #21

Lovie777

(23,741 posts)
1. Human nature is first of the warning........................................
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 07:30 AM
Jan 2024

apparently, human beings are inherent, prone to hate one another and religion, $$$$, power are the key to such.

We are the "superior species" here on earth and are capable of building weapons and mass destruction.

And it lies. Seriously, our superiority might be the death of all of us.

Buckeyeblue

(6,439 posts)
2. It's the combination of high intelligence and greed
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 08:16 AM
Jan 2024

Instead of acknowledging that we could build a weapon that could end humanity and making a collective decision to pass on it, we acknowledged such a weapon and moved forward with its assembly, because some people feel the need to have the power to end it all. The twisted logic that prevailed is that the more of these weapons that exist, the less likely we are to use them. I mean that only works until you get one individual who either feels like a cornered rat or plain doesn't give a fuck any longer.

Delphinus

(12,557 posts)
7. It is indeed terrifying.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jan 2024

Perhaps members of Congress should have a sit-down chat with him.

ashredux

(2,959 posts)
4. Actually, in the end, we're doomed.... The human race will destruct itself.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 08:42 AM
Jan 2024

Between our hubris, and Mother Earth trying to expel the virus of the human, this ain’t gonna be pretty.

sop

(19,310 posts)
5. I imagine this was necessary after both Sweden and Finland recently became NATO members.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:15 AM
Jan 2024

Putin was none too happy when Sweden and Finland officially became members of the NATO military alliance; Finland has an 830-mile border with Russia, more than doubling Russia's existing border with NATO countries. And if Trump is elected, he'll probably back Putin if Russia starts something.

carpetbagger

(5,516 posts)
10. Sweden isn't in yet.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:45 AM
Jan 2024

Hungary and Turkey are still holding out. I suspect the point of sounding the alarm is that Putin might strike before Sweden joins. I personally don't think he has the logistical ability to even take Gotland at this point, but I suggest Sweden's military not take my assessment as authoritative.

sop

(19,310 posts)
12. During a NATO summit last July, Turkey's President Erdogan agreed to let Sweden into the alliance,
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:58 AM
Jan 2024

and the Turkish parliament gave its consent to Sweden's bid to join NATO a few days ago. Hungary's Orbán is still holding out, though talks are ongoing.

2naSalit

(103,809 posts)
11. No "probably" about it...
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:46 AM
Jan 2024

He's already planning and is already antagonizing by busing large numbers of immigrants and others to the borders, giving them bicycles and flooding the border crossings.

Sound familiar? These autocrats are often one trick ponies, pootin is one of those and I have suspected all along that he is behind the problems at our southern and, at times, northern border.

oldmanlynn

(845 posts)
8. There is alot of rumors of similar civil war scenarios in usa
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:35 AM
Jan 2024

Was told today that people need to prepare. Pack a go bag is what they said. I couldn’t get more details. My guess is the fascist right is planning something

Joinfortmill

(21,668 posts)
9. I felt this way when Trump was first elected. Developed a spreadsheet with an entire plan...
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:41 AM
Jan 2024

Still have it. But, honestly, I think the legal system is going to take Trump down and his minions are going to slink back into the woodwork, like the roaches they are ,because they are inherently cowards. As for Putin, his days are numbered. At some point the Russian people are going to get sick of losing. Two losers: Trump & Putin.

Celerity

(54,878 posts)
16. Supreme Commander Byden is not speaking about civil war here in Sweden, he is taking about Russia potentially attacking.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 10:15 AM
Jan 2024

Ferryboat

(1,270 posts)
19. You too?
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 11:02 AM
Jan 2024

Contacted this week by a close child hood friend. We stay in contact infrequently so no surprise there. It was his message to be prepared for bad times.

He referred to power grid in general terms. Currently running around in AZ.

BannonsLiver

(20,857 posts)
20. The chair is against the wall.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 11:05 AM
Jan 2024

The chair is against the wall.

John has a long mustache.

=eom=

bucolic_frolic

(55,819 posts)
14. Trump will build a Mexican-paid-for Dome over them, and a wall to protect Russia
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 10:04 AM
Jan 2024

We know Cheeto Jesus works in mysterious ways

IronLionZion

(51,554 posts)
15. Are they expecting Russia to expand the war?
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 10:12 AM
Jan 2024

It's good to be prepared just in case. But I highly doubt Russia will come for Sweden. The former Soviet states are much more likely.

Ridin with Byden

BannonsLiver

(20,857 posts)
18. Are you ready to muster?
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jan 2024

Last edited Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)

You could turn your Porsche estate car into a light APC. 😉

Johnny2X2X

(24,435 posts)
21. Source
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 11:07 AM
Jan 2024

Military leaders, without fail, prepare for war and want more money to prepare for war. No surprise here.

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