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dalton99a

(94,133 posts)
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 08:07 PM Jan 2024

Why Iowa Turned So Red When Nearby States Went Blue

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/08/us/politics/iowa-republicans-red.html
https://archive.ph/pgADw

Why Iowa Turned So Red When Nearby States Went Blue
Over the past 15 years, the Upper Midwest has seen a remarkable state-by-state sorting of voters along partisan lines.
By Jonathan Weisman
Jan. 8, 2024 Updated 3:19 p.m. ET

With the Iowa caucuses six days away, politicians will be crisscrossing the state, blowing through small-town Pizza Ranches, filling high school gyms, and flipping pancakes at church breakfasts.

What Iowans will not be seeing are Democrats. President Biden spoke Friday in Pennsylvania, and he and Vice President Kamala Harris both were in South Carolina over the weekend and on Monday. But Iowa, a state that once sizzled with bipartisan politics, launched Barack Obama to the presidency in 2008 and seesawed between Republican and Democratic governors, has largely been ceded to the G.O.P. as part of a remarkable sorting of voters in the Upper Midwest.

There is no single reason that over the past 15 years the Upper Midwest saw Iowa turn into a beacon of Donald J. Trump’s populism, North and South Dakota shed storied histories of prairie populism for a conservatism that reflected the national G.O.P., and Illinois and Minnesota move dramatically leftward. (Sandwiched in between, Wisconsin found an uncomfortable parity between its conservative rural counties and its more industrial and academic centers in Milwaukee and Madison.)

No state in the nation swung as heavily Republican between 2012 and 2020 as Iowa, which went from a six-percentage-point victory for Barack Obama to an eight-point win for Mr. Trump in the last presidential election.

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Why Iowa Turned So Red When Nearby States Went Blue (Original Post) dalton99a Jan 2024 OP
Idiots Out Walking Around underpants Jan 2024 #1
That's perfect. yardwork Jan 2024 #9
LOL! Filing this. kairos12 Jan 2024 #22
Iowa was Dukakis' best state in 1988 dsc Jan 2024 #2
I thought it was West Virginia Rstrstx Jan 2024 #18
Mostly in the lower 16% IQ range??? LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #3
A very liberal friend of mine from PA School was ebullient in 2008 over her home state of Iowa Aristus Jan 2024 #4
+1. Iowa was the third U.S. state to legalize same-sex marriage dalton99a Jan 2024 #6
That was one of the issues we discussed. I remember being surprised that Iowa did that before Aristus Jan 2024 #7
Iowa Supreme Court did that, SharonClark Jan 2024 #11
I fear we are also in trouble in Wisconsin. nevergiveup Jan 2024 #5
"The Politics of Resentment" Jimbo S Jan 2024 #25
Wisconsin didn't "find an uncomfortable parity" maxrandb Jan 2024 #8
And, we can thank the Koch Brothers and othes for that. GoCubsGo Jan 2024 #19
Ballooning farm bailouts. moondust Jan 2024 #10
And yet free lunches for hungry kids? In a farming state? Sorry, no can do. NameAlreadyTaken Jan 2024 #26
Blame it on right wing talk radio and scary SharonClark Jan 2024 #12
And Fox News 24 hours a day. Initech Jan 2024 #13
Corporate McPravda Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #21
Other states have right wing talk radio Sky Jewels Jan 2024 #28
they go to church, + he's the golden calf. pansypoo53219 Jan 2024 #14
Iowa is a far more rural state than those surrounding it. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #15
True, but it was pretty much just as rural when Obama won the state... Silent3 Jan 2024 #16
What Iowa has seen is not much different than those other states. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #20
MAGA has a more established amplification system in Iowa rural areas, it's that simple uponit7771 Jan 2024 #17
Propaganda works. Generations raised on Fox & Hate Radio. maxsolomon Jan 2024 #23
Culture wars? Jimbo S Jan 2024 #24
Trump Tower Des Moines, Trump Cedar Rapids Golf Resort. Sioux City Ski Resort and Spa. Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #27
Stupid paywall Jilly_in_VA Jan 2024 #29
Democrats must stop insulting rural Americans Thunderbeast Jan 2024 #30
Ranchers need to stop thinking public lands belong to them. Coventina Jan 2024 #31

Rstrstx

(1,648 posts)
18. I thought it was West Virginia
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:47 AM
Jan 2024

Looking it up on Wikipedia it was actually Rhode Island

Aristus

(72,188 posts)
4. A very liberal friend of mine from PA School was ebullient in 2008 over her home state of Iowa
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 08:24 PM
Jan 2024

going for Barack Obama. When I expressed my surprise that a rural Midwestern State would go for the Democratic candidate, she declared flatly: "We're liberal in Iowa!"

She must not be very happy right now.

Aristus

(72,188 posts)
7. That was one of the issues we discussed. I remember being surprised that Iowa did that before
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 08:38 PM
Jan 2024

California. She was very proud of her state. I can only imagine what she must be feeling about Iowa right now.

nevergiveup

(4,815 posts)
5. I fear we are also in trouble in Wisconsin.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 08:30 PM
Jan 2024

Trump carried it in 2016 and Biden only carried it by 20,000 in 2020. Obama did remarkably well in northern Wisconsin rural counties. Those counties are now mostly lost.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
8. Wisconsin didn't "find an uncomfortable parity"
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 08:41 PM
Jan 2024

It was gerrymandered to frickin unrecognizable wingnuttery.

GoCubsGo

(34,915 posts)
19. And, we can thank the Koch Brothers and othes for that.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 08:48 AM
Jan 2024

They used Wisconsin as their testing grounds.

moondust

(21,286 posts)
10. Ballooning farm bailouts.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 09:00 PM
Jan 2024
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Direct farm aid has climbed each year of Trump’s presidency, from $11.5 billion in 2017 to more than $32 billion this year — an all-time high, with potentially far more funding still to come in 2020, amounting to about two-thirds of the cost of the entire Department of Housing and Urban Development and more than the Agriculture Department’s $24 billion discretionary budget, according to a POLITICO analysis. But lawmakers have taken a largely hands-off approach, letting the department decide who gets the money and how much.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932

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...Trump imposed tariffs on products coming from China, a tax paid largely by American consumers. ...This tax was then redistributed to farmers who had been targeted by reciprocal tariffs from China.
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Trump’s farmer bailout gave $21 billion to red counties and $2.1 billion to blue ones

The bribes weren't enough to deliver Election 2020 for him but no doubt they solidified his support in some rural areas along with his white male supremacy vision at a time of growing demographic changes.

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
21. Corporate McPravda
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jan 2024

Get people to believe they have an enemy. In this case, Democrats.

Repeat for 40 years non-stop for added affect.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
28. Other states have right wing talk radio
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 01:34 PM
Jan 2024

but, yeah, Iowa is scarily religious, and that's one of the main problems.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
15. Iowa is a far more rural state than those surrounding it.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 03:55 AM
Jan 2024

They also don't have a major city where Democrats run up massive margins to make up for the more rural areas.

Wisconsin has Milwaukee.

Michigan has Detroit.

Illinois has Chicago.

Des Moines just isn't as large.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
16. True, but it was pretty much just as rural when Obama won the state...
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 04:00 AM
Jan 2024

...so something else is clearly going on.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
20. What Iowa has seen is not much different than those other states.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 10:22 AM
Jan 2024

The difference is that they don't have an urban center to balance it out.

From 2012 to 2016, Republicans made significant gains in more rural, white areas across the board - from Ohio to Pennsylvania.

The difference between Pennsylvania or Michigan and Iowa, tho is that Iowa just does not have the urban center to compensate for the larger rural shift.

In 2012, Democrats won 42% of small cities/rural areas nationwide.

In 2016, they won 34% nationwide.

That shift is going to be felt in a more rural state like Iowa as opposed to, say, Michigan with its urban areas.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
23. Propaganda works. Generations raised on Fox & Hate Radio.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 01:02 PM
Jan 2024

Generations of the best & brightest fleeing the state as soon as their degrees are complete.

I met multiple intelligent, funny, liberal Iowans when I fled SW Ohio for Seattle in the 90s.

Jimbo S

(3,043 posts)
24. Culture wars?
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jan 2024

"North and South Dakota shed storied histories of prairie populism for a conservatism that reflected the national G.O.P."

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
27. Trump Tower Des Moines, Trump Cedar Rapids Golf Resort. Sioux City Ski Resort and Spa.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 01:31 PM
Jan 2024

Iowa is where the GOP party goes to invest and vacation and hang out with like minded people.

If Iowans believe it at election time, that's all that matters.

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
30. Democrats must stop insulting rural Americans
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 04:23 PM
Jan 2024

Jon Tester's message in Montana has been successful.

Farmers need healthcare.

Ranchers need a strong predictable economy.

Tractor dealers need infrastructure to support their enterprises.

Everyone (rural and urban) needs quality, affordable education, clean air and water, and liberty and justice (protection of rights) for every citizen.



Coventina

(29,733 posts)
31. Ranchers need to stop thinking public lands belong to them.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 04:28 PM
Jan 2024

And ruining it with their cows.

And yes, I am a vegetarian.

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