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gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 08:51 AM Jan 2024

Bill Barr Covered Up The Trump Tower/Alfa Bank Server

No doubt that Bill Barr improperly, at times illegally, worked with Donald Trump to cover up Trump's crimes. Bill Barr was a partisaan AG, to put it mildly.

I want to begin my story at the beginning back in 2016 when Trump was running for president and cybersecurity experts discovered a server at Trump Tower that was connected to Alfa bank in Russia, a Putin bank. The only communications from Trump Tower server went to Alfa bank, no communications went to any other location. The cybersecurity experts wanted the FBI/CIA to do more investigations into the server, instead we got John Durham who investigated the Russian investigation.

"The text of that email shows Mr. Dagon was forcefully supportive. He proposed editing the paper to declare as “fact” that it was clear “that there are hidden communications between Trump and Alfa Bank,” and said he believed the findings met the probable cause standard to open a criminal investigation."

“Hopefully the intended audience are officials with subpoena powers, who can investigate the purpose” of the apparent Alfa Bank connection, Mr. Dagon wrote.

In the end, Mr. Durham came to investigate them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/us/politics/trump-alfa-bank-indictment.html

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Bill Barr Covered Up The Trump Tower/Alfa Bank Server (Original Post) gab13by13 Jan 2024 OP
I've been... 2naSalit Jan 2024 #1
I wondered what happened to that investigation. Most corrupt administration in history, and that's saying Martin68 Jan 2024 #5
True that! Nixon/Reagan provided a challenge..... jaxexpat Jan 2024 #21
If ever there was the need for a special counsel gab13by13 Jan 2024 #2
That investigation is coming in on my ship! dchill Jan 2024 #18
It is difficult to swim against the Fox current. jaxexpat Jan 2024 #23
Too late.... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #29
Durham's job was to distract from the Alfa bank story .... And he was good at that Botany Jan 2024 #3
Let's not forget the big todo about PG Huma Abedin's troubles (Hillary's personal assistant) and her husband Backseat Driver Jan 2024 #10
Or that Russia had a paid off FBI agent inside the NYC FBI office to plant stories in The NY Times in 2016 Botany Jan 2024 #11
All this buried info for so long. I don't get why it comes now, years later. Who sat on it? Who benefits? ancianita Jan 2024 #4
No, this is old news, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #6
Okay, then. When you put it that way, I feel you. ancianita Jan 2024 #8
Also of interest re server and alpha bank masmdu Jan 2024 #7
K & R BadgerMom Jan 2024 #9
Russia collaboration not a hoax. A shame it has been allowed to be perceived as that. nt wiggs Jan 2024 #12
K&R onecaliberal Jan 2024 #13
Kick dalton99a Jan 2024 #14
This story is how I first learned of it dweller Jan 2024 #15
Wray is sitting on a mountain of evidence that incriminates the traitors Ponietz Jan 2024 #16
It's easier, and sexier, to exhume John Dillinger and reprosecute.... jaxexpat Jan 2024 #24
What about the server set up to Russia found on Betsy DeVoss network? Remember this? flying_wahini Jan 2024 #17
By getting in touch with DeVoss Russia was getting into contact with her Brother Blackwater's Erik Prince Botany Jan 2024 #30
Here is my Hypothesis ScratchCat Jan 2024 #19
I purr at the rub of your theory, ScrathCat. jaxexpat Jan 2024 #25
good thoughts there . AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #27
There is evidence of Russia funneling money to Republicans, gab13by13 Jan 2024 #28
It was rather suspicious... kentuck Jan 2024 #20
Was it because of the fire? Captain Zero Jan 2024 #26
BB is one of the most significant antidemocratic criminals of all time. praxEs Jan 2024 #22
Barr is about as straight as a dog's hind leg. republianmushroom Jan 2024 #31
Dirty Billy Barr praxEs Jan 2024 #32

2naSalit

(102,780 posts)
1. I've been...
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 09:17 AM
Jan 2024

Waiting for this issue to come back around. The fire an that tenant's death were very suspicious.

K&R

Martin68

(27,741 posts)
5. I wondered what happened to that investigation. Most corrupt administration in history, and that's saying
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 10:00 AM
Jan 2024

something when you look at the Nixon and Reagan administrations.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
21. True that! Nixon/Reagan provided a challenge.....
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:51 AM
Jan 2024

in the eternal contest of governmental corruption. But you can count on Trump to surpass them in this, no matter how low the "Barr".

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
2. If ever there was the need for a special counsel
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 09:22 AM
Jan 2024

Merrick Garland, where is the SC investigating Bill Barr? To the contrary, Garland appoints special counsels for Hunter Biden so as to show Magats that he is not partisan.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
29. Too late....
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jan 2024

The statute of limitations has sailed on all but the very last of bill barrs crimes.

Certainly it has past on anything related to this server, the Mueller Era investigations, and the inauguration investigations.

5 years is all you get.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
3. Durham's job was to distract from the Alfa bank story .... And he was good at that
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 09:30 AM
Jan 2024

2,500 + link ups between Alfa bank in Russia and Trump’s campaign server in Lititiz, PA
from February until Oct. 2016 and another 200 + to Betsy DeVoss / Erik Prince in Michigan
@ the same time.

The FBI was well aware of the Alfa Bank/Trump/Russia connections prior to the elections
but talked about Hillary’s emails instead.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
10. Let's not forget the big todo about PG Huma Abedin's troubles (Hillary's personal assistant) and her husband
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 10:46 AM
Jan 2024

ex-Congressional Rep. Anthony Weiner's salacious sexting investigation, a ready-made useful GOP distraction.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
11. Or that Russia had a paid off FBI agent inside the NYC FBI office to plant stories in The NY Times in 2016
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:03 AM
Jan 2024

People need to be in prison. Olge Deripaska …. I think was paying him in 2016, Deripaska bank rolled
Tony DeVolder’s (santos) 2022 campaign, and Bill Barr dropped Mueller’s charges against Olge too,

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
4. All this buried info for so long. I don't get why it comes now, years later. Who sat on it? Who benefits?
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 09:47 AM
Jan 2024

Is the NYT trying to do a hit on the current DOJ for what Barr did/didn't do?

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
6. No, this is old news,
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 10:03 AM
Jan 2024

I am doing the hit because it bugs me how criminals get away with rewriting history.

It bugs me when Merrick Garland goes public and states that he will not be partisan when the vast majority of the new Magat party is working to overthrow our democracy.

We have special counsel investigating Hunter Biden, no special counsel investigating Jared Kushner.
We have a special counsel investigating President Biden having classified documents, no special counsel investigated Mike Pence.

It just bugs me.

We were told when Kristen Clarke was confirmed that steps would be taken to curb all of the thousands of threats being made to honest election officials, librarians, NARA employees, school board members, and on and on. The threats have only increased since Jan. 6th, the insurrection has grown since Jan. 6th. People at the top behind this insurrection need to be held accountable.

Members of Congress like Scott Perry, Ron Johnson, need to be held accountable, we don't need an attorney general saying he will not be partisan because that is being partisan in favor of the traitors. Until I see Scott Perry has been indicted I will keep saaying that members of Congress have immunity.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
12. Russia collaboration not a hoax. A shame it has been allowed to be perceived as that. nt
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:09 AM
Jan 2024

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
16. Wray is sitting on a mountain of evidence that incriminates the traitors
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:21 AM
Jan 2024

A massive Federal RICO/espionage case is what it’ll take to restore sanity. Kick the can will kill us.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
24. It's easier, and sexier, to exhume John Dillinger and reprosecute....
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jan 2024

than to go after internal corruption in national law enforcement. And that's kind of a serious thing for any news cycle.

flying_wahini

(8,275 posts)
17. What about the server set up to Russia found on Betsy DeVoss network? Remember this?
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:21 AM
Jan 2024
https://www.mlive.com/news/2017/03/report_ties_spectrum_health_to.html
“ Reported computer activity between Spectrum Health and a server affiliated with the Trump Organization has been brought into the spotlight as an investigation continues into whether a connection was made between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank, CNN reported this week.

According to CNN, internet data shows a computer server owned by Russian-based Alfa Bank looked up the contact information for a computer server being used by the Trump Organization, mail1.trump-email.com. The bank is reported to have looked up the address 2,820 times, while a Spectrum Health server reportedly looked up the address 714 times.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
30. By getting in touch with DeVoss Russia was getting into contact with her Brother Blackwater's Erik Prince
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 12:35 PM
Jan 2024

And who did a Russian agent meet with in January of 2017 to set up a secret back channel
contact network between Russia/Putin and Trump? Erik Prince. I have always wondered
if Fox News was in this loop?

The meeting was on an island 900 miles off the coast of east Africa in the Indian Ocean….
Random Chance.

ScratchCat

(2,740 posts)
19. Here is my Hypothesis
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:44 AM
Jan 2024

This issue of Russian money being directed secretly to members of the Senate and House is simply too easy to uncover to think this wasn't known about at most levels at DOJ.

Russia "isn't stupid". If they compromised some Republicans, they also compromised Democrats because it would make little sense otherwise.

That is why this hasn't been "investigated" and won't.

Bill Barr and John Durham's job's were to keep quiet the Russia money connection. Few Democrats are "screaming from the rooftops" about this because they have been told an investigation will lead to Democrats having taken money(maybe even unknowingly) as well.

Unfortunately, DOJ probably let Trump get away with all those Russians in Trump Tower for so many years simply because it was easier to "keep tabs" on them if you knew where they were.

This is simply deductive reasoning on my part. Others have speculated about whether DOJ/CIA/NSA knew about what had been going on with Trump and Russian Oliagarchs for years, and this is not a unique theory. There was a reason why this was never fully investigated even before Trump ran for POTUS.

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
28. There is evidence of Russia funneling money to Republicans,
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 12:17 PM
Jan 2024

there is no evidence of Russia funneling money to Democrats. Claiming that the lack of investigation/prosecution is because democrats are complicit is just pure speculation, without a shred of evidence.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
26. Was it because of the fire?
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 12:15 PM
Jan 2024

Flood at Mara Lago, fire at Rump tower.
Things tend to happen on Trump properties when evidence is involved.

praxEs

(84 posts)
22. BB is one of the most significant antidemocratic criminals of all time.
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:54 AM
Jan 2024

And we all have seen the evidence. It galls me to no end that he prances around lying about his crimes and nobody in the media is calling him out. He's just pretending now that he was not a dirty criminal all along just like the last time for Bush. He merits prosecution before we finish up the the Trump prosecutions writ large.

praxEs

(84 posts)
32. Dirty Billy Barr
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 01:54 PM
Jan 2024

And we all have seen the evidence. It galls me to no end that he prances around lying about his crimes and nobody in the media is calling him out. He's just pretending now that he was not a dirty criminal all along just like the last time for Bush. He merits prosecution before we finish up the the Trump prosecutions writ large.

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