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orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:17 PM Jan 2024

How dumb can Americans be?


"Gilligan's Island" ran for 3 years.

Then it was cancelled to make room for - "Gunsmoke".

I think that sums up what we have to work with.

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How dumb can Americans be? (Original Post) orangecrush Jan 2024 OP
I liked Gunsmoke. SarahD Jan 2024 #1
me too. Groundhawg Jan 2024 #2
So did I. patphil Jan 2024 #8
Best synopsis of Gunsmoke I've ever read. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #7
At least orangecrush Jan 2024 #17
Hang on, are you calling Miss Kitty a hoe? Meet on main street at high noon and we will settle this! Chainfire Jan 2024 #46
I'd respectfully disagree about the "message" whathehell Jan 2024 #67
The rifleman was one of my favorites. A good family man that killed 245 men during the program's run. Chainfire Jan 2024 #89
It was a big hit in Russia when they got the re-runs Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #96
Uh huh, and that's because whathehell Jan 2024 #109
Huh? whathehell Jan 2024 #64
Strictly platonic. SarahD Jan 2024 #66
Lol..You obviously didn't grow up in the 1950's.. whathehell Jan 2024 #69
Why do you think? SarahD Jan 2024 #74
Sarah, in the 1950's they wouldn't even whathehell Jan 2024 #104
We know that they were doing the nasty, what is in question was how many other men Kitty and her Chainfire Jan 2024 #90
Lol..Well, YOU seem to know! whathehell Jan 2024 #103
I am old enough to have drank some watered down rotgut in the Long Branch. Chainfire Jan 2024 #108
LOL. The best line I ever heard on Gunsmoke, was when Miss Kitty was buying embroidery from a widow. rsdsharp Jan 2024 #84
Now wait just a darn minute here.. Permanut Jan 2024 #3
At least orangecrush Jan 2024 #16
Was that Gunsmoke with Chester, Quint, Newley or Festus? House of Roberts Jan 2024 #4
Dang. I had forgotten about the earliest shows with Chester. Silent Type Jan 2024 #5
Or as he was later known, House of Roberts Jan 2024 #6
Liked that show too. Silent Type Jan 2024 #9
The earliest Gunsmoke shows had William Conrad as Matt Emile Jan 2024 #13
Gunsmoke- Chester Singing Celerity Jan 2024 #49
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." sakabatou Jan 2024 #10
one of my favorite quotes.... bahboo Jan 2024 #14
Actually that would be the Median... Xolodno Jan 2024 #19
That would be the average "person", not whathehell Jan 2024 #57
huhhhh??? Gunsmoke ran from 1955 to 1975. Gilligan's Island ran from 1964 niyad Jan 2024 #11
There apparently was a resurrection of Gunsmoke orangecrush Jan 2024 #15
Actually, no "resurrection". Gunsmoke ran continuously from 1955-1975. niyad Jan 2024 #20
Gilligan's Island orangecrush Jan 2024 #24
Thank you for that very clear answer to what may have sounded very snarky, niyad Jan 2024 #34
Peter Graves loved to gamble? Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #97
You are most welcome. I don't know if he gambled in Reno, but I met him niyad Jan 2024 #99
It ran on the radio from 1952 to 1961 with William Conrad as Marshal Dillon. marble falls Jan 2024 #42
What we're worrking with. czarjak Jan 2024 #12
very dumb... myohmy2 Jan 2024 #18
The mass stupidity can't be meaningfully measured. no_hypocrisy Jan 2024 #21
I'm not sure I'm following you ExWhoDoesntCare Jan 2024 #22
See post 24 orangecrush Jan 2024 #25
Gliiigans Island was still one of the most popular shows on TV edhopper Jan 2024 #33
A better example of how dumb Americans are avebury Jan 2024 #23
Bread and circuses orangecrush Jan 2024 #26
Exactly! Beatlelvr Jan 2024 #27
I think reality shows are more a symptom of unregulated Capitalism, imo v Oneironaut Jan 2024 #28
Duck dynasty was cancelled as well. jimfields33 Jan 2024 #30
Duck Dynasty was one the worst things ever broadcasted. marble falls Jan 2024 #40
I don't know about worst. jimfields33 Jan 2024 #43
Close enough. They are hypocritical posers. Dad started out with nothing. The boy were wealthy and short-haired ... marble falls Jan 2024 #44
They last because a basket of deplorables watches them religiously, buying into the fiction that they're documentries. marble falls Jan 2024 #41
Kinda like how people think Trump is actually a businessman. Oneironaut Jan 2024 #59
Reality shows also make a spectcle of ordinary peoples' lives DBoon Jan 2024 #63
It embarrasses me to know this what impression of Americans Europeans think we are. marble falls Jan 2024 #72
The thing about it is that reality/talent shows have a lower budget than scripted shows sakabatou Jan 2024 #71
I like Gilligan's Island, still catch reruns on METV. tinymontgomery Jan 2024 #29
Get Smart was a cut above Beausoleil Jan 2024 #36
Ah, Get Smart. Now ya talking! Dave says Jan 2024 #37
Talking on my shoe phone right now. lol n/t tinymontgomery Jan 2024 #65
Hmmm... Mike Nelson Jan 2024 #31
Was rewatching Bonanza lately XanaDUer2 Jan 2024 #48
But Gunsmoke & The Rifleman having some liberal messages don't fit the narrative presented here. elocs Jan 2024 #92
I guess I am dumb because I liked both shows. former9thward Jan 2024 #32
Agreed. I liked both shows as well and still have no problem watching their reruns. elocs Jan 2024 #93
I gave some catnip to a neighbor with cats Ponietz Jan 2024 #35
Gilligan was almost as deep as the Banana Splits ... marble falls Jan 2024 #38
Speaking of the Banana Splits, area51 Jan 2024 #101
After Gunsmoke, there was "Dancing with the Beverly Hillbillies" chouchou Jan 2024 #39
Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #45
Hello. And this is your first post? GP6971 Jan 2024 #47
Dumb TV isn't unique to the US. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #50
THANK you whathehell Jan 2024 #70
I listened to a lot of old radio shows Marthe48 Jan 2024 #51
I got sent to my parents room once orangecrush Jan 2024 #81
And look!!! How most of us grew up to not kill anyone! LakeArenal Jan 2024 #52
Most of us orangecrush Jan 2024 #87
Okay, Boomer Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #53
I am a boomer orangecrush Jan 2024 #77
So, I love Gunsmoke Raine Jan 2024 #54
Testing how stupid Americans can be has proven to be dangerous, politically... Wounded Bear Jan 2024 #55
Excellent point orangecrush Jan 2024 #75
Compared to who?..Do you imagine whathehell Jan 2024 #56
Since all most of us ever see are US-made TV shows, and some of them are stupid, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #73
I liked Rebl2 Jan 2024 #58
A rather tortured attempt at a point, I suppose. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #60
Torture orangecrush Jan 2024 #79
By attempting to quantify the intelligence whathehell Jan 2024 #61
You sound orangecrush Jan 2024 #76
That's a compliment I will accept... whathehell Jan 2024 #88
Well taken! orangecrush Jan 2024 #91
Will you stop asking that? Aristus Jan 2024 #62
Gunsmoke was a good show. Elessar Zappa Jan 2024 #68
I Remember When nitpicked Jan 2024 #78
Iirc orangecrush Jan 2024 #80
Mr Howell and Lovey Arne Jan 2024 #82
Ok orangecrush Jan 2024 #86
When ever I say I am old BlueKota Jan 2024 #83
Agree 100% orangecrush Jan 2024 #85
Gunsmoke was my dad's favorite show. Some excellent actors and guest stars. NMatt was shoy like 200 times. Rafi Jan 2024 #94
Sometimes, dumb shows up is places one doesn't expect Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #95
Bachelor and Bachelorette. Internet dating in 20 days, MerryBlooms Jan 2024 #98
Did I miss "Dancing with the cowboy mod variety late night surgeon chef hillbilly rich crime investigator scuba divers?" usonian Jan 2024 #100
Brainwashed by the idiot box, or the boob tube MyMission Jan 2024 #102
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2024 #105
Well, Hello again!! GP6971 Jan 2024 #106
"Here Comes Honey Boo Boo." I rest my case. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2024 #107
 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
1. I liked Gunsmoke.
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:24 PM
Jan 2024

Sheriff turns a blind eye to prostitution in return for sexual favors. Perfect.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
46. Hang on, are you calling Miss Kitty a hoe? Meet on main street at high noon and we will settle this!
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:45 AM
Jan 2024

All of the good westerns that we love are contributors to gun violence in America. To my generation, there was nothing wrong with settling disputes by shooting someone and hangings were justice, not lynching. As a kid, all of us boys had a gun and holster and nobody wanted to be an Indian. Real men carried guns and fought with their fists. The value of propaganda.

whathehell

(30,470 posts)
67. I'd respectfully disagree about the "message"
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 02:15 PM
Jan 2024

of the old westerns and any contribution they would have made to America's present day gun problem. To shoot someone in these shows -- except in defense of the self, or others- was NOT portrayed as okay. It is, in fact, why those guys were called "outlaws" and pursued by "good guy" lawmen...Hanging was a form of
lawful execution that followed due process and was almost always portrayed as such. The " lynchings shown were carried out by outlaw "bad guys", and they were either broken up by "good guy" marshalls, or their perpetrators were pursued as criminals.

"Crime doesn't pay" was a VERY strong theme in that era. It was clear to me and I honestly don't know how anyone could have missed that.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
89. The rifleman was one of my favorites. A good family man that killed 245 men during the program's run.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 07:11 PM
Jan 2024

That worked out to 1.47 per show. When I was 7 years old, there were 30 westerns on TV. The message was that real men, perfected the use of firearms, against other men. The faster the draw, the tougher the fist, the better the man was. There are groups in the country, today, that hold that that is still true. Liberals usually don't take a fancy to the type, partner.

whathehell

(30,470 posts)
109. Uh huh, and that's because
Sun Jan 14, 2024, 02:36 PM
Jan 2024

the "good family man" was in the perilous position of having to defend himself or other innocents against those trying to kill THEM. I'm not sure how, in explicit terms, at least, this violates the moral code.

It sounds like your real issue with these shows is their very construct -- their depiction of violence and its possible effects on children and the larger society.

It's a very old critique of popular culture generally, and it's not limited to America or the past -- Violent video games, anyone?
It seems the jury is still out on the question: Defenders of the old westerns could argue that the violence was a realistic depiction of the time and place. Others dismissed it's being a serious threat on the basis of it's being fiction, "just a tv show". Some might even reference historic conventions of drama -- Hell, even Shakespeare was violent.

That said, I never intended to take on the whole issue of "violence in media'" or "toxic masculinity" here, as those are neither new nor limited to American entertainment, past or present.


whathehell

(30,470 posts)
64. Huh?
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:21 PM
Jan 2024

Excuse me, but "sexual favors" granted to the sheriff in a quid pro quo situation is nothing but an assumption on your part, and not a very sound one. Matt Dillon and Kitty were portrayed as having a genuine friendship.



whathehell

(30,470 posts)
69. Lol..You obviously didn't grow up in the 1950's..
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 02:38 PM
Jan 2024

If you had, you'd know your 'quid pro quo' scenario could never have made it past the Hayes Code, something that wasn't repealed until 1968. Thank you "for the good laugh".

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
74. Why do you think?
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:52 PM
Jan 2024

They never showed anything specific? The viewer was left to imagine what they got up to when they were alone. Do you also imagine that the saloon girls were not prostitutes? That Kitty was not a madame?

whathehell

(30,470 posts)
104. Sarah, in the 1950's they wouldn't even
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 09:59 PM
Jan 2024

show married couples lying in the same bed together!

As to the rest, Ms Kitty and company may have been engaging in prostitution, but since I was just 8 years old when I started watching it, her relationship with the Marshall wasn't a source of speculation for me. Their interactions were always portrayed as relaxed and friendly. That, to me, argues against it's being based on an extortionary "deal".
Was it just platonic? Maybe not, but I think the fact that he never addressed her by anything but "Miss" Kitty suggests otherwise.







 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
90. We know that they were doing the nasty, what is in question was how many other men Kitty and her
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 07:21 PM
Jan 2024

girls were entertaining. Of course, I may have that wrong, perhaps a celibate and frustrated Matt Dillon was behind him killing between 150 and 300 men and several women.

rsdsharp

(12,004 posts)
84. LOL. The best line I ever heard on Gunsmoke, was when Miss Kitty was buying embroidery from a widow.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 04:50 PM
Jan 2024

When the widow told her she didn’t need to buy her stuff, Kitty said she appreciated the quality. “Believe me, I know fancy work.”

Permanut

(8,391 posts)
3. Now wait just a darn minute here..
Thu Jan 11, 2024, 11:27 PM
Jan 2024

I have the complete DVD set of Gilligan's Island, right next to my set of "The Beverly Hillbillies".

Emile

(42,293 posts)
13. The earliest Gunsmoke shows had William Conrad as Matt
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:39 AM
Jan 2024

Dillon. Parley Baer as Chester Wesley Proudfoot.
Howard McNear (Barber on Mayberry) as Doc Adams. This was the radio show cast.

sakabatou

(46,151 posts)
10. "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:13 AM
Jan 2024

-George Carlin

Xolodno

(7,350 posts)
19. Actually that would be the Median...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:14 AM
Jan 2024

...but that would definitely be a deviation above peoples heads and wouldn't be as funny.

whathehell

(30,470 posts)
57. That would be the average "person", not
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:53 PM
Jan 2024

the average "American"...To speak of an "average person" is to speak globally, not specifically of one country. Were this, in fact, posted here about ANY other country, it would be deleted for BiGOTRY.

niyad

(132,446 posts)
11. huhhhh??? Gunsmoke ran from 1955 to 1975. Gilligan's Island ran from 1964
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:14 AM
Jan 2024

to 1967. What am I missing?

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
15. There apparently was a resurrection of Gunsmoke
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 02:15 AM
Jan 2024

It was put in Gilligan's Island spot to please the wife of a network executive.

niyad

(132,446 posts)
20. Actually, no "resurrection". Gunsmoke ran continuously from 1955-1975.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 04:14 AM
Jan 2024

William S. Paley, a fan of Gunsmoke, switched the plans to cancel Gunsmoke and continue Gilligan.
I have to ask, do you seriously think that absurd Gilligan series somehow indicates. .what? Superior plots? Great acting? And Gunsmoke, to you, represents. . what, exactly? No snark here. I am just trying to understand your point.

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
24. Gilligan's Island
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 09:52 AM
Jan 2024

Was, imo alone, one of the dumbest shows ever to air.

As a 10 year old, I loved it.

Gunsmoke was one of the most violent shows in the history of t.v.. IIRC, the shows intro was a showdown with someone being shot down in the street by Matt Dillon.
Get your killing in beginning of every episode!

niyad

(132,446 posts)
34. Thank you for that very clear answer to what may have sounded very snarky,
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:35 AM
Jan 2024

although it was not intended to. You made some very thoughtful, and correct, observations. I knew that those shows were on, even at my house, but I was usually reading.

Years later, I met Jim Arness's brother, Peter Graves (Mission Impossible). Very tall, very polite, loved to gamble.

Attilatheblond

(8,880 posts)
97. Peter Graves loved to gamble?
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:50 PM
Jan 2024

That explains how a bunch of us on a business trip to Tahoe met him in the Reno airport!

All these years, I could never figure how a guy like that would be heading to a hotel in Reno. Thanks, mystery solved!

niyad

(132,446 posts)
99. You are most welcome. I don't know if he gambled in Reno, but I met him
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 09:16 PM
Jan 2024

when he gambled in Lake Tahoe, as did Sammy Davis, who was an absolute hoot when it came to keno.

myohmy2

(3,721 posts)
18. very dumb...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:09 AM
Jan 2024

...nearly half the population can't tell the truth from a lie...they'd rather live in their make-believe world instead of reality...

...they refuse to consider what anyone has to say...they relish in ignorance and treat stupidity as if it were a virtue...

...they want to destroy this country and tear it down...it has gotten to the point I can't recognize these people anymore...they're foreign and alien to the America I love...

...they were once family, friends and neighbors...now they've become the enemy of all that is dear to me...

...why...

...

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
22. I'm not sure I'm following you
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 07:28 AM
Jan 2024

Gunsmoke took over? Took over what? A time slot? So what?

If a show is cancelled, it's because people stop watching.

A syndication spot? So?

Gunsmoke had many more years on the air than Gilligan's Island, and thus has more episodes available. That means more shows, so viewers don't get bored.

Gunsmoke was a better show than Gilligan's Island, anyway. Better actors, better writers and more varied storylines that had a semblance of reality. GI was a one-trick pony that grew old, and fast. Plus, it made no sense. An unmapped island that close to California was no longer a reality by the 1960s. You do know that, right?

That's why it went off the air. Audiences got tired of seeing the same silly, overworked plot about people nobody cared enough to search for in the first place.

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
33. Gliiigans Island was still one of the most popular shows on TV
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:34 AM
Jan 2024

Paley, and CBS cancelled it because they thought it was too low brow and didn't fit the image of the "Tiffany" Network.
It had better ratings than Gunsmoke, but CBS thought Gunsmoke would be helped by moving it to Gilligan's time slot.
Your premise is in error. Ratings did not dictate this schedule.

avebury

(11,197 posts)
23. A better example of how dumb Americans are
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 07:53 AM
Jan 2024

is the over fascination with "reality/talent" shows. That is like the modern day equivalent of sending people to the Forum to watch the gladiators fight to distract them from what is really going on around them. I know I will get crucified for it but you could also extend the analogy by adding professional sports to the mix.

Beatlelvr

(802 posts)
27. Exactly!
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:04 AM
Jan 2024

How else could those self obsessed, vapid, horrible Kardashians be fucking millionaires!

Oneironaut

(6,300 posts)
28. I think reality shows are more a symptom of unregulated Capitalism, imo v
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:13 AM
Jan 2024

Their purpose is to maximize profits at very little production cost. That’s why shows that are actually good keep getting cancelled for crap like, “Duck Dynasty.”

Netflix and streaming services will soon be taken over by low quality shit programming as well, and also endless commercials. That’s because the current cable model is the most profitable model.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
30. Duck dynasty was cancelled as well.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:23 AM
Jan 2024

It was funny at first but like stupid Gilligan’s Island got a well deserved cancellation.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
43. I don't know about worst.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:34 AM
Jan 2024

It was cute at the beginning. Millionaires who started with nothing and looked ridiculous. But it got repetitive like the Island and many other shows.

marble falls

(71,936 posts)
44. Close enough. They are hypocritical posers. Dad started out with nothing. The boy were wealthy and short-haired ...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:39 AM
Jan 2024

... and clean shaven until the show started. The only real ones there was mama and the goofy ice tea swilling uncle.

marble falls

(71,936 posts)
41. They last because a basket of deplorables watches them religiously, buying into the fiction that they're documentries.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:49 AM
Jan 2024

Oneironaut

(6,300 posts)
59. Kinda like how people think Trump is actually a businessman.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jan 2024

He shit his pants and bankrupted daddy’s companies until he was able to con NBC executives into creating a reality show about his “life.”

DBoon

(24,989 posts)
63. Reality shows also make a spectcle of ordinary peoples' lives
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jan 2024

and glamorize brutal competition with winning at all cost.

True capitalist values.

sakabatou

(46,151 posts)
71. The thing about it is that reality/talent shows have a lower budget than scripted shows
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 02:55 PM
Jan 2024

and allow a network to save money. They will also want shows which can be syndicated, because shows with actual story are harder to jump into.

tinymontgomery

(2,859 posts)
29. I like Gilligan's Island, still catch reruns on METV.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:21 AM
Jan 2024

Sometimes watching stupid shows lets you just sit back, have a laugh and not worry about anything. I also like the old GET SMART shows.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
31. Hmmm...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:23 AM
Jan 2024

... not sure I understand the post. Gunsmoke was well-produced, and ran for many years. I watched some reruns of it and The Rifleman on ME recently. I was surprised at the "liberal" messages in many of the stories. Gilligan's Island was dumb, indeed! It did have a great theme song and went "in color" in a good setting.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
92. But Gunsmoke & The Rifleman having some liberal messages don't fit the narrative presented here.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:28 PM
Jan 2024

But you are absolutely correct about them having Liberal messages in some stories.
Gunsmoke was the first tv show I can remember watching back in 1955 and The Rifleman was special to me as a young boy growing up without a father. Gilligan's Island could only be described at best as "silly".

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
32. I guess I am dumb because I liked both shows.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jan 2024

I would not search for reruns of either but if one popped up, I would watch it. Gunsmoke was not the most violent show, but I have no problems with violence in shows. The problem with Gilligan's Island is that their constant failure to get off the island every show became tiresome and repetitive.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
93. Agreed. I liked both shows as well and still have no problem watching their reruns.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:30 PM
Jan 2024

Gilligan's Island was just stupid for anyone over 10 years old.

marble falls

(71,936 posts)
38. Gilligan was almost as deep as the Banana Splits ...
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 10:44 AM
Jan 2024

Now there's a cancellation that marks a fall in American popular culture.

Gunsmoke has been broadcast since '52 (on radio til '61). Marshall Dillon was voiced by William Conrad

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
50. Dumb TV isn't unique to the US.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jan 2024

Have you ever watched Britain's "Benny Hill"? Or Japanese game shows? Or Mexican soap operas? There seems to be a worldwide appetite for brainless amusement. We don't have a corner on that market.

whathehell

(30,470 posts)
70. THANK you
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 02:48 PM
Jan 2024

I made the same point earlier in the thread..So tired of the "five minutes of self-hate"

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
51. I listened to a lot of old radio shows
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jan 2024

when I was working from home in computer operations. Gunsmoke had many story lines about inclusion, respect, championing the underdog, (of Native Americans and settlers) fighting the land and cattle barons, doing the right thing. William Conrad on the radio shows was a fantastic choice for Matt Dillon. What a voice!

I watched early episodes of Gunsmoke, Bonanza, reruns of Roy Rogers, The Texan (loved Rory Calhoun) Zorro, and The Lone Ranger. The shows were black and white and so were the characters. I think all of the shows were not just to portray good behavior winning out over evil doing, but also to reinforce good behavior in people already practicing it.

The modern crime shows all seem to be cautionary tales that LE will catch up with you if you commit a felony. Too bad that isn't true in real life!

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
81. I got sent to my parents room once
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 04:32 PM
Jan 2024


When I was about 8, for some infraction (don't know why not my room).

In the dark, I turned on the old RCA clock radio and listened to "Bonanza". (This was around 1965.)
Suddenly, it wasn't punishment!

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
52. And look!!! How most of us grew up to not kill anyone!
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:26 PM
Jan 2024

As my mom used to say….. it’s just a story.

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
53. Okay, Boomer
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:35 PM
Jan 2024

Great job, comparing America of 2024 to decisions made by network executives in the 1960's.

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
77. I am a boomer
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 04:17 PM
Jan 2024

One of the tail end, late 50's with a huge chrome plated male ego to match.

I am sometimes blinded by the suns reflection on it, I admit.

whathehell

(30,470 posts)
56. Compared to who?..Do you imagine
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:38 PM
Jan 2024

that the televised programming of the
The Rest of The World is all Masterpiece Theatre quality?..If so, you've got a lot to learn.

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
73. Since all most of us ever see are US-made TV shows, and some of them are stupid,
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 03:35 PM
Jan 2024

it's easy to assume the stupid shows are uniquely American, made for a stupid American audience (thereby proving that Americans are stupid, right?) - but we never see the stupid shows produced in other countries for their stupid people (or maybe for the ordinary people who just want to relax and watch something harmlessly bland and amusing). If we want evidence that Americans are stupid we can look to our politicians, but our TV shows are no worse than those produced in other countries. The BBC sends us only Britain's best shows; we don't get to see the dumb ones, so we assume all of them are better than ours. They aren't.

Rebl2

(17,743 posts)
58. I liked
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 12:57 PM
Jan 2024

Gilligan’s Island, but then I was probably seven or eight yo. Never liked Gunsmoke and don’t like it now.

whathehell

(30,470 posts)
61. By attempting to quantify the intelligence
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 01:04 PM
Jan 2024

of this huge nation on the basis of two television programs, you may have answered your own question about at least one of them.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
82. Mr Howell and Lovey
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 04:33 PM
Jan 2024

I have his sport coat and wore it on New Years eve.

The one with the yacht club stuff all over it.

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
83. When ever I say I am old
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 04:47 PM
Jan 2024

my older sister, always replies, "not as old as you’re going to be." So my answer to this question is similar. "Pretty dumb, but not as dumb as they're going to be, if they are forced to grow up in an uneducated country run by Republicans.

Rafi

(281 posts)
94. Gunsmoke was my dad's favorite show. Some excellent actors and guest stars. NMatt was shoy like 200 times.
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:35 PM
Jan 2024

I thought Miss Kitty was hot and so was Mary Anne from Gilligan.

Attilatheblond

(8,880 posts)
95. Sometimes, dumb shows up is places one doesn't expect
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 08:42 PM
Jan 2024

Gunsmoke ran from1955 to 1975 per https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047736/] and my childhood memories. My clan of Midwesterners always played a game of spot the error (such as a jet vapor trail in the sky, mountains and rugged rock formations not found near Dodge City, KS). It was how my dad and uncle taught us to be skeptical about what was portrayed on the TV, a most valuable lesson.

Gilligan and the Skipper wrecked the boat in 1963 and were stuck on that island until 1967 per https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057751/] One has to marvel at all the evening gowns Ginger managed to sneak onboard for a three hour tour.

MerryBlooms

(12,248 posts)
98. Bachelor and Bachelorette. Internet dating in 20 days,
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 09:01 PM
Jan 2024

Or whatever that shitshow is. Naked something. Masked singer. You didn't even begin to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Gunsmoke and Gilligan's Island are highlights!

usonian

(25,332 posts)
100. Did I miss "Dancing with the cowboy mod variety late night surgeon chef hillbilly rich crime investigator scuba divers?"
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 09:37 PM
Jan 2024

It's all a blur now.

But some things never change.



MyMission

(2,010 posts)
102. Brainwashed by the idiot box, or the boob tube
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 11:03 PM
Jan 2024

Makes me wonder if these early gun glorification shows helped to shape the current gun culture.
The old West was glorified by gunfights, although they tried to show guns killed the bad guys.
I never watched gunsmoke or the rifleman. I did enjoy Gilligan's island. And I remember watching Superman and Batman and the fist fights, no guns. Bam! Pow!

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GP6971

(38,016 posts)
106. Well, Hello again!!
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 10:30 PM
Jan 2024

wish I could say it's nice to see you again, but I would be lying.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
107. "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo." I rest my case.
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 10:46 PM
Jan 2024

Later rebooted as "Here Comes Fatty Poo Poo", but the network thought it might be confusing to viewers, so they retitled it "The Apprentice".

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