Gaza crisis: Over 10,000 children killed amidst escalating violence

[David__77]

The ongoing crisis in Gaza has reached a grim milestone, with over 10,000 children killed due to Israeli airstrikes and ground operations, as reported by the Ministry of Health in Gaza. The war, which began on October 7 following an attack on Israel, is nearing its 100th day, leaving a devastating impact on the young population of Gaza.

This dire situation has been highlighted by Save the Children, an organization dedicated to aiding children in the world's most challenging environments.

Their recent findings show that approximately 1% of Gaza's 1.1 million children have lost their lives in this crisis. The children who have survived are facing a myriad of horrors, including severe injuries, burns, and diseases, often coupled with inadequate medical care. The psychological trauma is compounded by the loss of parents and loved ones, and the destruction of their homes.

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Save the Children's report also highlights the broader impact of the crisis on children in Gaza. Approximately 40% of the casualties since October 7 are children. The war has led to significant damage to infrastructure, with 370 schools and 94 hospitals and healthcare facilities being attacked or destroyed. The entire child population of Gaza, around 1.1 million, is facing a lack of adequate humanitarian assistance.

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https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/24743-gaza-crisis-over-10-000-children-killed-amidst-escalating-violence.html

[Chuuku Davis]

1. Says hamas

Some day the truth will come out.
And it will still be horrible.

[David__77]

4. What do you think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza?

[Omnipresent]

8. I guess the lives of thousands of children, will never quench the desire to get a few hundred hostages back.

[edisdead]

28. Wow. Did you really just say that?

[Calculating]

35. Seems he'd like to just let the terrorists win

Hamas needs to be stomped out like the vermin they are.

[Omnipresent]

86. Along with thousands of innocent Palestinian women and children?

Israel’s government doesn’t care who happens to die when they bomb the Gaza strip.

[Demsrule86]

70. So Jewish hostages don't matter?

What a dreadful thing to say.

[sarisataka]

72. Of course they don't

Because they are... (Well, you know)

[Omnipresent]

85. Did i say jewish lives don't matter?

Clearly, Palestinian lives don’t matter to the Israeli government.

[Beastly Boy]

13. What do YOU think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza?

Don't you think that the guilty party, the party which started this slaughter, the party that has the power to end it today but doesn't, the party that repeatedly and proudly admitted to its guilt, needs to be finally called out by its name and take responsibility for its atrocities towards their own population?

[tritsofme]

18. Nah, they're much more comfortable just blaming Jews.

[Sugarcoated]

19. Jewish people don't count

Don't you know that? /s

[David__77]

25. For his part, Netenyahu blames "Amalek"

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/benjamin-netanyahu-amalek-israel-palestine-gaza-saul-samuel-old-testament/

[PufPuf23]

47. What is an accurate body count of casualties broke down by

Hamas, IDF, Israelis, and Palestinians; and also sex and age?

[Happy Hoosier]

26. I think it's a tragedy.

But Hamas must go.

It’s a shame that Hamas hides behind those kids. They could end this now by surrendering.

[David__77]

27. Israel could have created a humanitarian corridor to allow noncombatants out of the combat zone.

It chose not to do so.

[Happy Hoosier]

29. I don't think that's accurate

There was a significant delay in the offensive where civilians were warned to evacuate.

[womanofthehills]

52. Wrong - citizens were all told to go south

NYT -
A Times Investigation Tracked Israel’s Use of One of Its Most Destructive Bombs in South Gaza.

The video investigation focuses on the use of 2,000-pound bombs in an area of southern Gaza where Israel had ordered civilians to move for safety. While bombs of that size are used by several Western militaries, munitions experts say they are almost never dropped by U.S. forces in densely populated areas
anymore.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-bomb-investigation.html

[womanofthehills]

33. Over 12,500 children killed says UN

In the ICJ report. Higher number because they included kids still under rubble.

[uponit7771]

77. To some it doesn't matter the organizations credibility they'll deny any wrong doing by Bibi

[malaise]

81. THISTLE

Rec

[Butterflylady]

66. Oh it will, but Israel will still be held responsible

For the deaths of over 10,000 children.

[malaise]

2. Palestinian children don't count

Don’t you know that?

[Butterflylady]

68. Yep, some have no care about

Civilian deaths, as long they get revenge.

Note to some here: unfortunately there will always be terrorists especially in the Middle East, that is fact. While you might get rid of one group another will take its place. And now with what's happening in Gaza, the hatred has increased. Man is the most dangerous mammal on earth 🌎 and we can do nothing about it.

[claudette]

3. 😢

Murderers

[Lonestarblue]

5. Israel has taken zero care to avoid killing women and children.

Bombing large apartment towers because there might be a tunnel under it is guaranteed to kill many civilians and few Hamas. The disproportionate killing by Israel is their vengeance for the October 7 attack where Israeli women and children were killed. The murder will not stop until Western leaders force it to stop.

People keep saying that Hamas can stop the war just by releasing the hostages, but that will not stop the war because Netanyahu and his hateful ministers want Gaza and no Palestinians to be left there. Hamas has no reason to stop the war—and, no, they don’t care what happens to Palestinians either—because Israel is showing the world that they are not the good guys and will commit war crimes and other atrocities in their effort to eradicate all Palestinians from Gaza so Israeli settlers can eventually occupy it. Israel is no different from Russia in its effort to take Ukraine’s land.

[Omnipresent]

10. Bibi is clueless, that that tipping point has occurred.

Israel transformed from a democracy defending itself to becoming a genocidal dictatorship.

[Bettie]

63. But, he's still in charge

he needs the war to continue to remain in power.

Plus, the right wing settlers are taking land in the West Bank and Jerusalem, displacing the people who live there already, it's all part of the plan.

Remember who ensured a flow of money to Hamas and put his thumb on the scale to ensure they would win the election. Political maneuvering by Israel's version of Trump.

[Beastly Boy]

14. Hamas, on the other hand, takes great care to maximize killing women and children.

And they frequently and proudly acknowledge this.

[womanofthehills]

42. Here are the numbers from the Times of Israel

From The Times of Israel

Partial data by Hebrew media covering the civilians — killed by thousands of invading terrorists and by some of the thousands of rockets fired that day at Israeli cities — reveals that they include two infants, 12 other children under the age of 10, 36 civilians aged 10-19, and 25 elderly people over the age of 80, accounting for 75 of the 764 civilians.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/14-kids-under-10-25-people-over-80-up-to-date-breakdown-of-oct-7-victims-we-know-about/

[uponit7771]

78. Terrorist are expected to act like terrorist our allies not so much

[Beastly Boy]

88. So if I am a terrorist, I get a free ride

Even though the responsibility for the terror is all mine, right?

A great lesson for the terrorists. As long as your atrocities are expected, someone else will be blamed for them.

[uponit7771]

92. Nope, there's a way to deal with terrorists without becoming like them, this is already a known known

[Beastly Boy]

95. You are not proposing any way to deal with the terrorists excep to say

terrorism is expected of terrorists.

Which begs the obvious question: and then what?

[uponit7771]

96. It's already solved, we both now that. There's ***NOTHING*** new under the sun

... The problem Isreal as having isn't unique

Acting like Israel problem with Gaza is extremely unique iIs it not unique either

[Beastly Boy]

97. That appears even more defeatist than I expected.

Are you by any chance proposing to do absolutely nothing in response to every terrorist attack?

[uponit7771]

93. Nope, there's a way to deal with terrorists without becoming like them, this is already a known known

[TheKentuckian]

22. No, not just releasing the hostages but surrender

What some have a fiendishly difficult time processing and/or admitting is that the capacity for further attacks and taking more hostages is absolutely necessary.

[womanofthehills]

53. Surrender would mean Hamas soldiers would be tortured

Most likely tortured to death. We’ve seen the IDF videos online of the naked blindfolded detainees being beaten, dragged and kicked. Don’t get why the IDF thinks it’s good PR to photograph themselves committing horrific acts.

[TheKentuckian]

57. Bullets to the head work nicely.

They like their martyrdom why not save the Gazans they willfully hide behind and put in harm's way?

[LeftInTX]

71. Poor Hamas

[MarineCombatEngineer]

87. Hamas soldiers?

You're seriously calling these terrorists soldiers?
Just when I thought I had seen it all.

These are not soldiers or any military force by any means, these are terrorists and Hamas is a terrorist org.

[EX500rider]

94. "naked detainees"

Perhaps you mean stripped down to their shorts as any military force does when dealing with possible suicide bombing terrorists.

"tortured to death"

[Calculating]

38. No way

You realize what Russia would have done right? Switch Israel and Russia and there would be no Palestinians right now. Russia would have literally carpet bombed Gaza with their heavy bombers or just razed it all to the ground with artillery. Any surviving Palestinians would be tortured, killed, raped and or sent to the gulags.

[womanofthehills]

44. There have been under 600 kids killed in Ukraine

Throughout the entire war - and 12,000 kids killed in Gaza in a few months.

It’s all horrific!!

[Calculating]

46. That's because Ukraine has air defenses

Trust me, if Russia thought they could get away with it they would've reduced kyiv to rubble by now.

[NoRethugFriends]

51. Yes, no doubt Russia was trying not to kill kids

[maxsolomon]

98. "Zero care" isn't accurate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67327079

They're calling and warning people to get out. Now, you can argue that they shouldn't bomb the building because there are women and children who aren't evacuating, but it's pretty extraordinary to call people living in a targeted building to give them a direct warning.

[EX500rider]

99. Very inaccurate....more like "untrue" imo

The IDF warned Gazan civilians for several weeks before the launch of its major ground operation in October to evacuate themselves from northern Gaza, and placed 70,000 phone calls, sent 13 million text messages, left 14 million voice messages, and dropped 7 million leaflets urging civilians to evacuate temporarily for their safety and informing them about humanitarian pauses and precise evacuation routes.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-confirms-itll-defend-itself-from-gaza-genocide-claims-in-the-hague-next-week/

[ExciteBike66]

6. Some folks think there are no innocent people in gaza...

It's opinions like that that get kids killed.

But hey, there might be a tunnel under those kids, gotta drop a bomb on them...

[obamanut2012]

20. Some posters, who are NOT trolls, have also said this

It is really sad.

[Sky Jewels]

41. I've been thoroughly disgusted by the

attitudes here on DU. There is very little acknowledgment of the humanity of Gazans. Apparently only Israeli lives matter and Palestinians, including babies and children, are not fully human and their deaths are nothing to get upset about. Also, it’s not genocide if Israelis are the ones committing mass murder on an unfathomable scale.

[EX500rider]

56. How is it an unfathomable scale?

When many more civilians have died in just about every recent War including Yemen Iraq Afghanistan Syria etc

[Goddessartist]

61. Exactly.

Many here on this thread. It's like they have no humanity.

[Goddessartist]

60. Yes, many of them

have. It shows who they are, sadly.

[womanofthehills]

48. Kids in Gaza lives don't mean much to many

It’s OK to bomb a UN school if they think a Hamas fighter may or may not be hiding there. Can you imagine bombing a US high school because a terrorist may or not be hiding there.

[Nanjeanne]

7. Heartbreaking for anyone with a heart.

[Goddessartist]

9. Heartbreaking.

When is it enough for Israel?

Genocide.

[Beastly Boy]

15. When is this enough for Hamas?

They can end this tomorrow, but for some reason they don't. Any explanation for why they perpetuate this slaughter?

[Sky Jewels]

43. Any explanation for why Netanyahu

propped up Hamas for so long?

[Beastly Boy]

54. No. What does it have to do with my post?

Does it explain why Hamas keeps bragging about getting the civilians they are supposed to protect in harms way?

[womanofthehills]

49. No one believes Israel will stop bombing

If they get their hostages back. Videos on Twitter & TicToc of Israeli officials & citizens saying they want that that beach front property of Gaza - even plans of the kinds of houses they will build there.

[Beastly Boy]

55. I doubt that you can speak for everyone.

Especially when it comes to beliefs.

I am not even sure you believe your beach front property nonsense. But it is way above my pay grade to try to make any sense of it.

[David__77]

58. The objective is to make civilian life impossible.

[Donkees]

11. 💔

[Goddessartist]

12. So sad.

Please God stop this genocide.

[Calculating]

39. Ask Hamas to return the hostages and surrender

That's the way this ends

[ExciteBike66]

76. Yep let's rely on terrorists to get Israel to stop dropping bombs on kids

Good plan

[uponit7771]

79. Hostages not part of the peace prerequisites, you know that already (look)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/benjamin-netanyahu-our-three-prerequisites-for-peace-gaza-israel-bff895bd

[David__77]

23. 1% of the children have been killed so far.

A conservative estimate of number of people under 18 in US is 73 million. That would be, proportionately, greater than 700,000 children in this country being killed.

And, the killing is being done in many cases with US-provided weapons...

[edisdead]

30. So what?

In response to:

And, the killing is being done in many cases with US-provided weapons...

So what? We shouldn’t/shouldn’t have given out only ally in the region weapons? And further it is not Americans pulling the triggers on those weapons.

We shouldn’t help Jews defend themselves?

[David__77]

31. I consider it notable that 1% of children there been killed.

[edisdead]

32. notable sure.

Ahat dies that have to do with what was said?

[Calculating]

40. And proportionally Hamas killed the equivalent of 50,000 Americans

Also I'm very terrible ways involving rape, torture and sexual mutilation. I think if it was our country we'd all be cheering for war like the Israelis.

[David__77]

45. Relatedly, IDF killed the equivalent of 700,000 American children

That doesn’t count the elderly and other concomitants, of course.

[womanofthehills]

50. Times of Israel numbers

From Times of Israel

“14 kids under 10, 25 people over 80: Up-to-date breakdown of Oct 7 victims we know about”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/14-kids-under-10-25-people-over-80-up-to-date-breakdown-of-oct-7-victims-we-know-about/

[EX500rider]

100. And what % of the Gazan dead are under 10?

I bet you can't find out because Hamas wouldn't want the fact that many of the "children" they report are Hamas 16 to 18 year old's helping fire missiles at Israel & RPG's etc at the IDF

[Arazi]

16. 10,000 killed by Hamas' war

You keep forgetting to add that and I’ll keep reminding you. This is a war Hamas started and has vowed to continue.

Hamas is responsible for all of this.

They have vowed to continue until Israel is extinct. No other country would be pressured to ceasefire under those conditions

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo196930629782

[leftstreet]

17. Sigh n/t

[malaise]

21. But but but

The 17 year old U 19 cricket captain has been relieved of his position.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/south-african-cricket-team-revokes-captain-duties-from-jewish-player-over-security-concerns/

[sarisataka]

24. If only there had been a ceasefire

Six weeks ago that could have been extended. How many lives would have been saved

[yagotme]

67. I know. A ceasefire in effect on Oct 7 would have been nice, too.

Oh, wait...

[Sky Jewels]

36. And yet countless DUers cheer on this carnage.

It’s beyond sickening.

[tritsofme]

37. Yes, the Hamas cheerleaders are quite disturbing.

[Sky Jewels]

74. Who is cheering for Hamas?

Are you really saying that innocent Gazans, including thousands of babies, toddlers, children, and teens, are indistinguishable from adult Hamas terrorists?

[tritsofme]

75. Like the Supreme Court said, you know when you see it.

[uponit7771]

80. Same with genocide? Or is that only for Bibi apologist

[tritsofme]

89. Nope, international law defines genocide, only Hamas and their supporters lie about it.

[Sky Jewels]

90. Wow.

What a load. That’s pretty disgusting to accuse people who have empathy for the deaths of thousands of innocents of actually supporting Hamas. You know who really propped up Hamas for years? Netanyahu.

[tritsofme]

91. I truly wish it wasn't true, that so many appear to be enthusiastic supporters and share the same goals as Hamas.

[no_hypocrisy]

59. Might have been a better choice if Israel had gone into Gaza to SAVE

Palestinian women, children, and the elderly instead of making them "collateral damage".

[uponit7771]

82. Yep, there's nothing new under the sun, this problem could've been solved with acts of extreme kindness

... instead of oppression.

That would've bought Bibi so much more than this level of brutality

[Chainfire]

62. It is amazing to me that how many "progressives" search so long and hard to justify the killing of children.

Arguing about the actual numbers, the sources of the estimates, the notion that Israeli bombs crushing and burning the children to death are actually the direct fault of Hamas. Israel's enemy is HAMAS but the victims of unrestricted warfare are the people of Gaza. There is a difference. It sounds so much like the right-wing slogan back in the day of the Viet Nam war; "Kill them all and let God sort them out."

Children are not Hamas, they are not terrorists, they are innocent victims and we hunt for excuses for their deaths because it is too painful to accept the truth.

[David__77]

64. The military campaign also weakens - not strengthens - Israel's state security.

The military approach is a reflection of a broader strategy rooted in demographic panic.

[uponit7771]

83. +1, Bibi's actions weakens soft and hard power of Israel

[KentuckyWoman]

65. War. What is is good for?

Absolutely nothing

[Chainfire]

73. Its nothing but a heartbreaker, good only for the undertaker...

[gulliver]

69. The people of Gaza need to force their military wing to surrender

Perhaps if Gazans all took to the streets in a peace march of protest of their military leaders, their elected leaders would listen. Hamas and the others might call off the war they started.

If their leaders have democratic support among the Gazans, it's a completely different story, obviously. If I supported, say, Trump, and Trump attacked Mars, it would be my fault if Mars fought back and members of my family were killed. Not Mars. You deserve, in other words, retaliation for acts you commit by proxy through your leaders. If Mars is merciful and careful not to harm members of my family whom I jeopardized with my (in this example) Trump support, then good on Mars. Bad on me if I keep supporting Trump's aggression.

It's obvious. We need to remember who is at fault in determining justice.

We also need to remember the future. The life of an innocent of the future is worth exactly as much as the life of an innocent of the present. The misguided impulse to save one innocent in the present at a cost of ten in the future is blind and, would seem to be very immoral to me. Leaving Gaza's military wing (Hamas, etc.) intact would be an unconscionably cruel act.

[uponit7771]

84. That's not part of Bibi's peace prerequisites (link)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/benjamin-netanyahu-our-three-prerequisites-for-peace-gaza-israel-bff895bd