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Ken Cox (@kencoxca on Threads.net) 🇨🇦
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Jan 12, 2024
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Jack Smith is revealing how deep he is into the cellphone/cloud accounts of Trump and his co-conspirators in the classified documents case. One FBI agent found photos of classified documents were texted from Walt Nauta's devices to another Trump employee.
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Exhibit Attachment B #257, Att. #2 in United States v. Trump (S.D. Fla., 9:23-cr-80101) ...
Exhibit Attachment B
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"Ms. Mancini will testify that on Nautas Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max device she located three thumbnail photos containing classification markings."
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Exhibit Attachment A #257, Att. #1 in United States v. Trump (S.D. Fla., 9:23-cr-80101) ...
Exhibit Attachment A
3:01 PM · Jan 12, 2024
Attachment A
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.257.1_1.pdf
Attachment B
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.257.2_1.pdf
viva la
(4,598 posts)Nauta was there at Trump's elbow, "serving' him.
I wonder if he realizes how much legal danger he is in because of his filthy boss.
Blue Owl
(59,095 posts)He could get life in prison just for the acts described.
Leghorn21
(14,090 posts)mzmolly
(52,792 posts)One wonders what 'services' might have been involved.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Its definitely a conflict, but not sure its illegal if trump resorts charged fair market rates. But it darn sure doesnt look good.
Now, if he got fees for espionage, influence, and the like, thats clearly illegal.
mzmolly
(52,792 posts)business ventures. The fact that he was so reluctant to turn over classified docs. makes me believe there was a financial motive.
As I understand it, he may have violated the Foreign Emoluments Clause, regardless.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)hell be dead, infirmed, or in last year of his second term, with talk of a third term.
stopdiggin
(15,462 posts)(which probably ought to be kept separate)
With the documents 'thing' something quite, quite clearly different than patronage of Trump's hotels, golf courses, etc.
And - my impression - the speculation about 'Emoluments clause' is also pretty iffy.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)violate the Espionage Act.
rubbersole
(11,222 posts)...if Obama had done this faux news would be 24/7 commercial free for a month.
brush
(61,033 posts)The president, of all people, is not to be in business or servicing anyone. His only job is his presidential duties.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)to say thats emolument, assuming fair value. If its different from rent, that might be a different matter. Its definitely questionable and one of many reasons I despise the POS.
brush
(61,033 posts)so there's no question of improprieties putting the wishes of a foreign or domestic client above that of the nation.
It's ridiculous that there is any question as to the inappropriateness of this.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)CharleyDog
(816 posts)his mob boss persona,
can we ever DOUBT he sold secrets for money? For money and for fawning praise. The praise part is vital, he needs praise like a drug, and all the bad actors understand him well.
He didn't steal them for auld lang syne
viva la
(4,598 posts)Emoluments Clause:
The Foreign Emoluments Clause (art. I, § 9, cl. 8):
[N]o Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under
[the United States], shall, without the Consent of the
Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or
Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or
foreign State.
That's been interpreted to mean that presidents can't make money from foreign governments. There's this longstanding rule (of course, broken by Trump) that any gift worth more than $25 (?), even ceremonial, from a foreign government, must be turned over to the GSA or some agency.
And at least when he was president, there was a lot of talk that these governments were deliberately renting rooms from his hotel (which was leased from the government, btw-- the old post office) in order to curry favor.
And remember when he wanted to hold some international conference-- the G7? maybe-- at his Doral golf course-- in JUNE, when because of heat and humidity, there would ordinarily be few guests in a Florida resort.
Grrr... and at least 45% of the populace want to go back to that corruption.
tinrobot
(12,062 posts)If other "services" were provided, that would be a form of money laundering.
Maine-i-ac
(1,548 posts)Grift and corruption disguised as a business transaction.
Trump's MO and key to staying afloat.
That sound about right.
mzmolly
(52,792 posts)classified docs about XYZ. I wouldn't be surprised if the room rentals were cover for the actual 'business' taking place.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)mzmolly
(52,792 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)I hope one hundred million wonders!
H2O Man
(79,048 posts)Thank you for this!
I suspect that Mr. Smith has much more than the public is aware of.
Justice matters.
(9,786 posts)and that gang of traitors remain free to walk out there until the end of times? (Status of Limitations?)
H2O Man
(79,048 posts)For sake of discussion , this is about the classified document case. The former president is appropriately charged in Florida on this. One can question the objectivity -- if it exists -- of the judge in the case. The fact that the defendant's butler had photographs of sensitive documents on his phone is evidence of both the careless nature of the defendant in storing the documents, and his willingness to share them with others who had no right to see them.
More, Nautu is facing eight serious charges that could result in a 90-year prison sentence. My understanding is that Judge Cannon decided his trial will follow the defendant's.
It is possible -- perhaps likely -- that Nautu's legal team will work out a plea deal that includes his testifying against his master in return for a reduced sentence. His "regular" attorney, Stan Woodward, is no fool. I'm not familiar with the Florida one, Sasha Danad, a former public defender.
In the other federal case, I would like to have seen more people -- Bannon and Stone, etc -- charged. However, I understand that the DOJ has to be confident they have a 95% chance of conviction, before they indict. I assume that is why these scums haven't been charged.
Bev54
(13,431 posts)Might need some smaller diapers at MAL.
moniss
(9,056 posts)will no doubt decide that a delay of many months needs to be given for motions and appeals on this new bit of evidence.
triron
(22,240 posts)JoseBalow
(9,486 posts)Jarqui
(10,908 posts)Supreme Court to delay the trial ...
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chicoescuela
(3,080 posts)COL Mustard
(8,218 posts)When it happens. Not before.
chicoescuela
(3,080 posts)shrike3
(5,370 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)chicoescuela
(3,080 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)chicoescuela
(3,080 posts)spanone
(141,607 posts)ARREST THESE CRIMINALS NOW
struggle4progress
(126,147 posts)spanone
(141,607 posts)LudwigPastorius
(14,723 posts)But, staring at the rest of your life in prison has a way of attenuating your loyalty.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)johnnyfins
(3,767 posts)A) Scared shitless
or
B) being paid handsomely.
More likely both.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)If he has one
ancianita
(43,307 posts)scared shitless of any "accident."
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)He likely isn't sweating much.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)captain queeg
(11,780 posts)stopdiggin
(15,462 posts)and that's why it's on the docket!
dalton99a
(94,113 posts)Takket
(23,714 posts)PufPuf23
(9,852 posts)Pretty ridiculous that so many want Trump to be re-elected POTUS even after all that has been revealed.
What will stop MSM from telling lies to boost Trump and harm POTUS Biden?
With all the danger in the present World, there is not the luxury to not deal with Trump and the other traitors.
brer cat
(27,587 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)... and throw away the key!!
lindysalsagal
(22,905 posts)Yes. Yes, you have.
Vinca
(53,990 posts)underpants
(196,491 posts)He does the same with everyone including his children.
Justice matters.
(9,786 posts)that "discovery"... Benedict, anyone??
flying_wahini
(8,275 posts)flying_wahini
(8,275 posts)Even if he is turning evidence against Trump he will die in prison.
tom_kelly
(1,051 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,736 posts)There were 6 charges leveled against Nauta including obstruction, lying to the FBI, and finally 3 dealing with "concealing a document or record" (2 of which were related to national defense). And those latter charges might be what the OP texts of docs could be associated with.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Seems more likely that we were photos of the CLASSIFIED folders, not the documents inside. IOW supporting evidence that Classified materials were there and not planted
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,823 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,619 posts)Or more importantly, does she give a shit?