Trump just posted this. Make no mistake, this is a death threat at Judge Engoron and Federal Judge Kaplan.

[demmiblue]

Trump just posted this. Make no mistake, this is a death threat at Judge Engoron and Federal Judge Kaplan. Gravano is a murdering psychopath who admitted to killing in cold blood at least 19 people, including his closest friend and brother in law.

Link to tweet

[Easterncedar]

1. Endorsed by a serial killer

How have we sunk to this?

[NJCher]

11. "We?"

[Easterncedar]

14. Our country

[NJCher]

15. Just so you know

I and possibly many others consider trump and his followers to be an aberrant subspecies with which we are afflicted. There’s no “we” there because even trump himself has set himself apart from the concept of a country that has existed since the Constitution.

[Captain Zero]

21. Joe Biden for President

Joe Biden has NO endorsements from serial killers for the Mafia.

[ProfessorGAC]

2. Oh, Brother!

He posts a quote from a murderer & thug who threw everyone under the bus to save his own ass.
And, nobody cares what Gravano thinks about another person's character. He has none, so he's incapable of seeing it in others.
Finally, Gravano was a known liar husband entire CRIMINAL career. I'm supposed to believe his statements now?

[Historic NY]

26. "Omerta" eventually will catch up with Sammy...

there is always someone out there trying to be a hero.

[Emile]

3. Egads, lock Trump up until his trial.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Confession of loyalty to law outside the law

[SlimJimmy]

5. Sounds like the orange man knew he was bad news as well, and steered clear.

With that said, why should we believe anything Gravano says?

"I tried to get him. He just wouldn't bite."

[pnwmom]

46. Trump didn't steer clear of Gravano. In 1999, Gravano said he couldn't.

I think Gravano's following the Mafia code of silence. Trump was in deep, and so he's still being protected.


"What we see in this astonishing tweet is an implicit endorsement by the president of the United States of omertà, the Mafia code of silence, which has been honored, especially over the past 30 years or so, more in theory than in practice.

"Trump expanded upon his views this morning, in an interview on Fox & Friends, in which he seemed to refer, obliquely, though elegiacally, to the dismantling of the Mafia in New York City (an effort led for a time by his current attorney Rudy Giuliani).

“It’s called ‘flipping’ and it almost ought to be illegal,” Trump said. “I know all about flipping. For 30, 40 years, I have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/trump-gravano-gotti-mafia/568273/

And, according to Gravano, Trump didn't have the option of steering clear of Trump.

As Gravano told me, by way of illustrating his influence, “I literally controlled Manhattan, literally. You want concrete poured in Manhattan? That was me. Tishman, Donald Trump, all these guys—they couldn't build a building without me.”

[SlimJimmy]

49. I read it as Gravano tried to get Trumph, but the orange man wouldn't bite.

[pnwmom]

50. Why should you believe Gravano, when he has spoken of the importance of loyalty?

Did you read the Atlantic article? The only reason he testified against John Gotti, according to Gravano, was because Gotti had double-crossed him.

The logical conclusion is that Trump has never double crossed him, so Gravano is still on Team Trump, defending him in any way he can. It's not like Gravano has any honor. He was sent back to prison after he violated his parole by running a network of Ecstasy dealers from his home.

And now Trump is holding Gravano's words up like a badge of honor.

[SlimJimmy]

56. I said that in a previous post.

He's a known killer and liar. Why should we believe anything he has to say?

[SlimJimmy]

57. I said the same thing in a previous post.

He's below contempt. Why should we believe anything he has to say?

[pnwmom]

58. But you also said it sounds like the orange guy steered clear.

That would have been impossible, since the mob controlled the concrete industry.

[SlimJimmy]

59. I said it sounds like (based on Gravano's statement) that he steered clear.

I also said we shouldn't necessarily believe what Gravano said. Please don't put words in my mouth since I clarified my statement.

[pnwmom]

60. In post #49, you repeated your point without any qualifier,

so I thought you meant it.

[bigmonk]

6. Wha?

I really don't see any threat against anyone. It sounds like Trump is bragging about about his tough guy New York City roots, so tough even the thugs respect his integrity. He sees this as justification of his claim to be very honest.

[intheflow]

8. He's not saying it explixitly.

But implicitly, he's saying, "I know a guy, youse judges better watch your backs!"

[BonnieJW]

16. Me too

I don't see a threat either. Just one thug commenting on another thug

[Bev54]

44. It is a threat, clear as clear can be with Trump.

[radical noodle]

18. But it is...

trump talks in code. Invoking "Sammy the Bull," a known murderer, at the beginning of his post, followed quickly by the names of the judges, makes it a threat. He knows he can't simply say he wants the judges murdered, so he just uses mafia code to say it.

It's his version of "who will rid us of this troublesome priest?"

[dem4decades]

54. That's exactly what Michael Cohen said, he talks in code.

And those he's talking to understand what he wants done.

Go peacefully to the Capitol, how'd that work out?

[KS Toronado]

35. If that reason was correct, why add the Judges names in also?

Can you name anybody that Тяцмp has said something negative about that hasn't gotten a death threat?

[canetoad]

41. Trump is putting

A Mafia hit out on those two judges. Even I can see it from over 10,000 miles away.

If you cannot deduct this after eight or nine years of his involvement in US politics, you need to remove your rose coloured glasses and do a little home schooling on the very real danger of DJ Trump.

[aeromanKC]

7. Mob serial killers are now Trump's character witnesses..??

That's pretty much rock bottom.

[getagrip_already]

9. if sammy says you were incorruptible, it means you were owned by another boss....

not that you were beyond reproach. They had another term for that. they called them deadbeats.

He was sayng he was owned by another family and couldn't be swayed to do his family a favor.

[paleotn]

24. Conventional wisdom says, there was a time

when you couldn't build an shed in NYC without being tied in some way to the Mob. His father supposedly had ties to the Mob and so did he. It just stands to reason given their line of work.

[getagrip_already]

27. yup, and they were very jeolous of their assets....

They didn't allow them to play the field. They had one allegience. And they were reminded very violently of that if needed.

[canetoad]

42. 'Fear City'

Three part doco on the NY Mafia who 'owned' the concrete business and therefore everyone who needed concrete.

[paleotn]

10. So we're supposed to take the endorsement of a thug and murderer seriously?

Oh deal god.

[NJCher]

12. He's trying to shore up his base

I read yesterday where his base is dropping in its support.

[paleotn]

20. I've been waiting for that.

I've wondered when they'll tire of his monotonous schtick and go off to something new and shiny. The cult members, probably not any time soon, but that's not the totality of those who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. For many, his crap has got to become dull after a while. Hopefully, dull enough to keep them from the polls.

[Takket]

13. oh, well, if Sammy the Bull says he can't be corrpupted, then i guess we were all wrong about him!

I'm convinced! drumpf is the greatest!!!!!!!!!

[3catwoman3]

34. He left out a word. Trump can't be...

…further corrupted because he already is as corrupt as they come.

[sinkingfeeling]

17. I just wonder how many other US presidents were so friendly with mafia bosses.

[Captain Zero]

23. Only one other one matters this year

[dchill]

19. Wholly phucking shit!

I'd have to call that a violation of his pretrial release agreement. Also, it's a goddamn threat. Lock him up, now, or there is no law that will restrain him.

[Harker]

22. Trumpsky likely didn't bite because he was already

in tight with Russians.

[Captain Zero]

25. Rudy and Trump both rolled with Russian Mafia

Starting in the 80s.
Sammy the Bull knows that. He should say so, or is he dead too?

[Prairie_Seagull]

28. The limbo stick is now laying on the sand.

Game over, toss his ass in the clink already.

[Ocelot II]

29. Sammy The Bull is his character witness. Perfect.

TFG doesn't need to be corrupted by someone else; he's done it to himself.

[LuckyCharms]

30. There is NO LIMIT to how low Trump will sink.

This shit is presented on a platter to us. Right in front of our faces.

And this asshole is still free to say what he wants.

Trump may not do the deed, but he will convince some smooth-brained idiot to do it for him.

Lock him up now.

[struggle4progress]

31. The Don must have something on Sammy

[peggysue2]

32. Whoosh!

How many presidential candidates have a mobster speak in their behalf?

I'm voting for Joe Biden who doesn't need a character witness from the Mafia and doesn't spout Nazi rhetoric.

Ever!

But please, Mr. Trump, continue to do you. Truly enlightening. The American public needs more of your 'friends' to come forward.

Btw, no one's fooled by the veiled threats.

[malthaussen]

33. Yeah, right, Sammy, I believe you implicitly.

Or, you know, the very fact he says this could just be proof positive of the opposite. Nah, that couldn't be.

-- Mal

[flashman13]

36. Can someone please tell me why Trump's fat ass isn't in jail.

Are we going to have to wait until someone is murdered?

[Midnight Writer]

37. By God, if Trump is good enough for Sammy The Bull, then he's good enough for America's Presidency!

Add this to his endorsements from Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Mike Flynn, and Ginni Thomas.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

38. So what did he post?

Where's that?

[GuppyGal]

39. Rat quotes a Rat

Nice

[LiberalFighter]

40. I would think this would be considered a threat.

[Mblaze]

43. All that means is that

Trump was snuggling up to another boss. He’s a made man for sure.

[Autumn]

45. Death threat? Looks like Trump is reduce to making up endorsements from a has been crime boss.

[onenote]

47. It's stupid. It says a lot about Trump's insanity. But it isn't remotely actionable as a 'threat'.

Not even close. The Supreme Court has held that true threats are “serious expression[s]” conveying that a speaker means to “commit an act of unlawful violence.” Using a 78 year former mobster and hitman as a character reference doesn't meet that test.

[pnwmom]

51. It might not be legally actionable as a threat, but anyone with COMMON SENSE

would understand that Trump bragging about his Mafia connections in that context was a threat.

[JoseBalow]

48. When/where did Gravano say this? What was the context? *

I'm sure drumpf would ever LIE about being praised...

* Citation needed

[czarjak]

52. Sammy The Bull-Shitter2

You lie! You are fake news. Incorruptible? Sure thing. Huh, Shammy? PLEASE tell us more, Bada-Bing-Boy.

[keithbvadu2]

53. If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it.

If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it.

execute assassin

[TexasDem69]

55. It's Trump claiming that he didn't commit a crime

Because even a mob hitman thinks Trump can’t be corrupt. It’s not even remotely a death threat. Trump makes almost daily statements that show he should never be in a position of authority. We don’t need to misrepresent his statements.