Cincinnati Right to Life leader, on the 10-year-old girl who was raped should carry pregnancy to term.

[Swede]

To quote Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!



During a hearing by the Ohio House’s Constitutional Resolutions Committee on Tuesday, Laura Strietmann, the executive director of Cincinnati Right to Life organization, argued that raped 10-year-olds are capable and should carry their attacker’s children to term.

https://heartlandsignal.com/2023/04/19/right-to-life-leader-in-ohio-says-10-year-old-rape-victims-should-carry-babies-to-term/

[marble falls]

1. Oh what sinful things people like her make me think. Those "Christians" inspire some terrible thoughts in my mind ...

... they're in the devil's thrall themselves.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

41. Why do you put it in quotes?

She is a christian. You have ZERO evidence that she belongs to any other faith group. NONE.

So why try to pretend that she's not what she claims to be? Or do you think that she has to be a not-christian because you think only not-christians can be so immoral as to support what she does? As if not-christians don't have anything better to do than pretend to belong to a torture-loving hate cult.

Gee, that's not bigoted against not-christians at all, is it?

Blaming not-christians for the moral failings of a religion they have bloody bugger all to do with is what you're doing when you put those quotes around the word christian. Knock it off. We not-christians are through with that scumbaggery of blaming us for the bad behavior of christians.

Those days are over, mate. Deal with it.

[marble falls]

45. "Christians" aren't very christian, IMHO. I am christian. I take the thought that we should practice preaching ...

... Gospel daily. And if necessary: using words. Thanks for your inchoate anger, mate. I consider it a blessing. Let's me know I'm on the right track for me.

[JI7]

47. If they are not Christian then what are they ?

[marble falls]

48. I have no idea. But they do not seem Christian to me. What do you think they they are?

[JI7]

49. That's how many Christians are so how can they not be

Christian

[EndlessWire]

50. Taking shots like that

is beneath you. You all know very well that the poster meant that such people do not act in a Christian manner. The poster said nothing about any other religion. Such black and white thinking is ridiculous. Either you're Christian or you're nothing? The poster never said that. You guys just want to get your anti-religious shots in when the opportunity presented itself.

You are entitled to whatever you think, but so is the poster. I also think that sometimes so-called Christians have forgotten what they are supposed to stand for, and thus they have earned the quotes around the title Christian. This is an acceptable viewpoint to me.

[Mariana]

53. The poster meant that Christians are better people than non-Christians.

Laura Strietmann is frankly evil, therefore she can't be a Christian. Only non-Christians are evil like that.

[marble falls]

57. Almost: only self rightous "Christians", regardless of what else they may be be or not be, can be that evil ...

... she believes but just doesn't follow. There's just no open heart in her actions and words, and like the kid's hymns says, "G*D is love". And like Steven Stills once sang, "Remember that Jesus gave love away for free."

[JI7]

54. It's you that is seeing things in black and white by saying they aren't being Christian

Why can't you just accept that there are many Christians that are shitty and their religion is a big reason for it based on what they themselves say .

[marble falls]

56. That's not what they or I said at all. I think you are trying to put too fine of a point on it. You seem ...

... to be trying to draw your own conclusion from us out of it. Perhaps if you just take a leap of faith and voice what your unspoken point is.

I've said exactly what I meant: some "Christians, don't seem very christian to me, Marble Falls." Any extensions or hidden meanings are in the eye of the beholder.

[marble falls]

55. So much fools gold seems like gold, so how can it not be gold?

[Initech]

2. These are some truly sick, twisted and deranged psychopaths here.

[Lanius]

3. The media needs to runs multiple articles on stories like this.

Regular folks who don’t follow politics need to understand this is what Biden and the Democrats are up against. These archaic freaks who want to force 10-year-olds to have babies. It’s sick.

[marble falls]

5. She claims that it's never been proved the child was raped. Any pregnant 10 yr is absolute proof there was a rape.

[Lanius]

7. Is she saying 10-year-old girls can consent? Because the way statutory rape laws work is anyone under a certain age

Can’t legally consent even if they are a willing participant in sexual activity. You’re in a state where 16 is the age of consent and you have sex with a 14-year-old who is a willing participant? You’re still guilty of statutory rape because she can’t legally consent due to being under 16.

What this loon is saying makes no sense, unless she’s saying the Age of Consent no longer applies. Fuck what a sicko.

[marble falls]

4. Jeez. Read the article: she says worse.

[Archae]

9. Yeah, she said abortions to save a mother are false.

Another of these medically stupid people demanding to be able to dictate.

[mercuryblues]

10. She sure did

“I know that a 10-year-old might not understand pregnancy, but I also know that a 10-year-old understands life and playing with dolls,” Strietmann contended. “I know when my daughter was ten years old, she cried and begged for a little sister or a baby. And while a pregnancy might have been difficult on a 10-year-old body, a woman’s body is designed to carry life. That is a biological fact.”

Basically she is saying because she plays with dolls, she is mature enough to be a mother.

[marble falls]

61. If playing with dolls were a dependable barometer of suitablity for parenting, then there'd be a hell of a lot ...

... less child abuse in this country.

She's wrong on so many levels. 10 year olds are not suitable mothers or dads. Any adult attracted or "in love" with a 10 is ill or criminal, any adult having sex with or involve with child porn is criminal. Any one who advocates a pro-position for any of this is ill.

[spanone]

6. These people are fucking mentally ill.

[struggle4progress]

8. "What about rapists' rights?"

[Bayard]

11. Ten year old girls are not physically mature

They're still growing. Being pregnant and delivering a baby is NOT healthy. It sounds like this crazy woman is saying, if a girl is old enough to get raped, she's old enough to have a baby.

I lived in Cincy for 12 years. Back then, it was mostly conservative and rethuglican. Doesn't sound like its changed much if this woman is representative.

[Texasgal]

12. This is absolutely DISGUSTING!

Fuck this guy!

[niyad]

16. Laura

[IbogaProject]

13. Pro Rape

We need to hammer them for this extreme position, and never allow them to backtrack. They are Pro Rape, and anti Medical Science.

[keep_left]

14. Unfortunately, this is what you can expect from the "right to life"...

...leadership in this country. They apparently are so confident of their takeover of the doctrinal system--at least when it comes to the churches--that they are completely shameless even when speaking in public. This kind of garbage is what has been promulgated in the religious media for years now. Radtrad networks like EWTN now make no apologies at all for such discussion; they act like it is completely uncontroversial and beyond question.

[keithbvadu2]

15. Doctor/nurse stories of babies having babies... sickening..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216675892

Many children having babies... Babies having babies

It is graphic, sickening and heart-breaking:

A 12 y/o holding her teddy bear or dolly while giving birth.
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said that their priest told them that all babies were a gift from God.

[AllyCat]

21. This makes me sick.

[xmas74]

32. A friend's 14 year old became pregnant her first time

While going too far playing Seven Minutes in Heaven at a party. She decided to keep it.
During the pregnancy she had a stuffed giraffe she "cared for" per instruction from a Christian therapist. She held it and cried during her labor. When she transitioned she begged someone to take it out of her room so he couldn't see "the scary parts".

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

42. One of the many reasons I have zero love for the Vatican

Crocks in frocks, the entire woman-murdering dung heap of them.

[SouthernDem4ever]

17. Laura Strietmann like all wingnutz

has a screw loose.

[twodogsbarking]

18. Since I was a child I have never understood why children aren't treated better.

Maybe they would be better adults.

[Warpy]

19. Read the headline, my brain said "Male, of course."

and it turns out that yet again, my brain was correct. Only a male could be both this ignorant and this cruel.

And o course, he blames Jesus, who never said a single word against abortion, even though it was widely practiced in his time.

[Hekate]

20. Unfortunately, Laura Streitman is a woman, & Prez of Right to Life in Cincinatti

[Warpy]

25. I didn't say there weren't outliers

only that this degree of ignorance and cruelty was typically male.

There are ladies out there who despise women as much as rotten men do. Most of us have met at least one of those.

But thank you for pointing out one glaring example of an Aunt Lydia. Yes, they exist. They always try to top men in arrogance, ignorance, and misogyny, but they never quite succeed. Rotten men are always ahead of them.

[GiqueCee]

22. This Strietmann woman...

... has a diseased mind. If she thinks a 10-year-old should carry a rapist's spawn to term, then she must believe that the little girl has the maturity and resources to support and care for, a child she sure as hell didn't want.
So Laura, sweetie, baby, cookie, honey, are YOU gonna step up to care for this child? Nah... didn't think so.
Listen... There are millions of us who agree wholeheartedly that you should shut your filthy, lying mouth. I've seen what happens to children brought into this world in exactly this way, through no fault of their own, but through the malicious fault of vile, sanctimonious people like you. You are not a Christian, you are a monster.

[sakabatou]

23. These "Right to Life" people are sickos!

[IbogaProject]

27. "Right to Rape"

We need to zero in on this stance, and don't allow them to backtrack at all. Any limits on a woman's medical reproductive choices are dangerous and pro abuse.

[Old Crank]

24. THe GOP and its supporters

are a hate group.

[Shoonra]

26. Has anyone looked at a ten-y.o. girl?

Has anyone actually looked at a ten year old girl? They're usually well under five feet and a full-term baby would measure close to half their regular body size. Making a ten y.o. carry a fetus to term and give birth would do her body lasting damage.

Have you noticed that the ten y.o. girl and her doctor are portrayed as the villains in this argument? Not a word about the man who got her pregnant!

Yes, it was rape - statutory rape - and men still go to prison for it.

[EndlessWire]

52. When I was 9 years old

my stepfather, who had a fight with my mother and caused her to run from the house, came into my bedroom and laid on top of me. He pinned me down and started foreplay. The only thing that saved me from a full rape was the fact that my younger brother, still in a crib, woke up and stood up. I remember wondering if he would be able to tell my mother what had happened, because I thought I was going to die. But the monster quit and left my room. After that, I felt like G-d had protected me and caused my brother to wake up. I was 9.

No male should ever think that sex with an underage female is in any way justifiable. I think the term "statutory" only applies to the situation where a girl wants to do it. Any thing else is just RAPE. When you read "statutory rape," it immediately makes you think that the girl consented, but the guy got caught in a technical trap. But in fact, the guy could have raped an innocent, non consenting little girl.

Making a ten year old carry a baby to term is extra punishment and risks her life, not to mention that it protects the rapist. That's why we even have statutory rape laws, to protect underage girls from this inequity. But then there are these people who should keep their mouths shut lest their shit for brains leaks out and lets everybody see just how dumb they really are.

[3catwoman3]

28. Early in my nursing career, I took care of 2 premies whose moms were only 13.

The nursery had several rocking chairs so the moms could snuggle their babies while they grew and became able to maintain stable body temperatures. This was a Level II nursery with premies who were not super early or seriously ill. We called them "feeders and growers." It was a fun job.

One of the babies was going to be going home soon. When I arrived for my 3-11 shift, one of the young ladies was sitting in a rocker, holding her baby in her left arm, and sucking her own thumb on her right hand. It was a sight that I will never forget, and I can see it in my mind's eye as clearly today as I did on that evening in the mid 1970s. Heart wrenching and bone chilling at the same time.

[Dave Bowman]

29. "Right to Life" my ass, what a bunch of

deranged pervy Christofascists.

[dawn5651]

30. well if that is the case if she has a 10 year old child or grandchild and that child is raped..god forbid

then the same rules should apply...and i am stunned any woman would say this about a 10 year old child...that right to life leader needs a brain check.

[elias7]

31. Non-medical people should not be making medical judgments; or, perhaps should be sued for malpractice

A 10 yr old carrying a fetus has grave potential for permanent physical and emotional harm. Being forced to carry to term I should think would qualify as malpractice. If a religious or political leader wants to make policy and recommendations regarding medical issues, they should be held liable just like medical practioners are.

[keithbvadu2]

36. Gynotician

Gynotician

They play doctor in the legislature

[elias7]

66. Excellent

[JoseBalow]

33. Should be called "Forced to Life"

not "Right to Life"

[viva la]

34. She should consider what a ten-year-old pelvis is like

A full-grown baby could break it.

oh, well. Compared to the damage done to her mental state, I guess that's not much.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

43. One problem

SHE

DOES

NOT

CARE

If childbirth shatters a little girl's pelvis or rips her to shreds.

She only cares about hating any female who dares to get raped or have sex.

[TSExile]

35. Self-righteous monsters.

I hope they all get back what they are putting these women and girls through and then some. Arrogant AND ignorant bullies!!

[JanMichael]

37. If only there was a hell, she would fit right in.

It might actually be too much fun for her.

Sick twisted nasty Nazi little mother fucker.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

38. Are people still unclear on what antis want?

[keithbvadu2]

39. Many republican/Christian supposed pro-lifers

Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers

https://www.dailykos.com/blogs/CajsaLilliehook
-----------------

Former Youth Ministry Volunteer Gets Life In Prison For Child Rapes

And more

https://www.joemygod.com/?s=youth

[czarjak]

40. When the daughter or granddaughter of a prominent family gets in a family way...

With an undesirable in our fair city, termination has been an option. Believe me.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

44. My mum was there for the surgeries

In the pre-legalisation days. A bunch of money under the table, and a rich woman could get a safe abortion.

Everyone else? Knitting needles, bicycle pumps, and coat hangers for you!

[ZonkerHarris]

46. Christians that think their God is "pro rape" are listening to Satan's call instead.

[marble falls]

58. They have a serious disconnect: they hate pedos enough to break armed into pizza parlors looking for ...

... child traffickers and don't see the danger and wrongness and abuse of allowing a ten year of coming to term even in the case of rape (and no child can give consent, there is a huge power dynamic at play between a child and an adult: it's not an equal relationship ever) or incest. They do not allow the free will they wrap themselves in.

[peggysue2]

51. Of course.

Until it's their daughter, their 10--year old.

This is what separates the zealots from the those promoting humanistic, common sense pro-choice positions. It doesn't need to happen to us or the ones we love and cherish.

If it happens to anyone?

It's wrong, immoral, ghoulish.

[Marthe48]

59. I know someone

Her mother died when she was very young. Her father had a series of housekeepers who stayed with his children while he traveled for business. The last one had a son who assaulted and raped the person for over 2 years, until the crime was discovered and the young girl was removed from the hell she was living in. She didn't get pregnant. She was so badly damaged, she had to have a hysterectomy. She has never married. So please don't tell me, ever, that children can handle sex the same way an adult can. They can't. It is traumatic, physically and mentally.

[Johnny2X2X]

60. Look at what Repuiblicans are doing where they have control

This is where they will take the country if given a chance. The most extreme position poswsible is what they want for America, do not listen to their talk of moderating on this, they will not. Look at the states they control where they've fully outlawed it.

If the GOP ever gets control of both houses and the White House, they will do a full and complete abortiuon ban, no exceptions for rape and incest victims, no exfeptions for the life of the mother. None. And then it will get worse from there because they want to punish people. Death penalty for women and doctors is absolutely on the table. And more than punishment, they want control, mso pregnant women will be monitored, all women will be monitored for their periods. One progancy is determined, a women would give up all her rights, she would be monitored to ensure they don't leave the country, to ensure they're not engaged in behavior that is risky. Travel restrictions, daily reporting to the authorities. If a woman miscarries she will face jail if she can't prove it wasn't her fault.

Republicans have proven over and over again that they go to the extreme on abortion. Take the most extreme position you can imagine, and then go 2 steps further, that's where they will take the country if given a chance. And after they get what they want, they'll come for other rights that women have, such as the right to vote, the right to own property without a man giving them permisssion, the right to open a bank account etc. etc.

[TSExile]

62. A thousand times yes.

To be R means you are pro-rape, anti-woman. They want us to be property. After all, look who their poster boy is!!

[Johnny2X2X]

63. Agree

People on DU and elsewhere always post when a GOPer gets in trouble for sexual assault or even cheating. They post things like, "Oh, how hypocritical of them as Evangelicals."

My response is that for Trump and others, their abuse and degradation of women is not a problem for Evangelicals, it's a feature. There's a segment of the GOP that has control that believes women are property. And they view Trump's rape and abuse of women as a good thing, because he's an alpha male treating women the way god intended, as property. And they view women as evil and the cause of sin, so they deserve to be treated terribly. They think rape victims asked for it.

When Republicans joke about rape, they reveal their true feelings. When thyey joke about taking women's rights to vote away, you should believe them, they would do it if they could. They want to take America back to the 40s and 50s when women couldn't open bank accounts without a man co signing, where women couldn't own property free and clear. And they want to take it back to a time when women couldn't even travel or leave their homes without being accompanied by a man. They aren't joking, this is what they want to see from the country. They truly are that extreme at their core. They truly would take this country to something that ISIS would be proud of if they were allowed to.

[TSExile]

65. 100%

Kind of ironic that 20 years was spent fighting the Taliban overseas when the Grand Old Patriarchy feels the same way about women. A human female is nothing more than a breeder cow who needs to be regulated. Her only value is in whether or not her hymen is intact.

[Hotler]

64. IMO. That mean, nasty women needs pelted with rocks everytime she leaves the house.