Michael Steele on MSNBC just said if Haley gets the nomination she beats Biden

[spanone]

BECAUSE DEMOCRATS DON'T LIKE JOE BIDEN

FUCK THIS COVERAGE.

[walkingman]

1. Keep in mind he is former RNC chair...

[bdamomma]

4. exactly

nt

[agingdem]

24. Michael Steele is like most never-Trumpers..

they hate Trump more than they hate Democrats...but if it's a choice between a Republican "anybody but Trump" and Democrat Joe Biden, they will revert to GOP asshole type...maybe Michael Steele is down with Haley's absurd blathering response to the cause of the Civil War...it was slavery, stupid!!

[montanacowboy]

2. Once a Republican......

they only espouse our side when it is advantageous for them; then they turn in a minute when they see an opportunity for their side. Fuck all Republicans, all worthless bags of shit.

[TheBlackAdder]

95. Haley will win, yeah right!

[bdamomma]

3. Michael Steele

doesn't know what he's talking about. It's going to be dog and pony show till we get to November.
They will say anything to get ratings, and throw doubt on President Biden.

I'll watch Joy but that's it for the night. I've been binge watching Deadwood.

[OnDoutside]

5. It IS possible that repugs could join together and act

as if Trump never existed. They'd airbrush him, and her. That said I stick by my belief that this is a Biden v trump contest

[Bucky]

46. What? Republicans just *ignoring* the parts of history that they don't like to think about?

Say it ain't so, OnDou!

[OnDoutside]

143. Indeed so !

[malaise]

6. He's still a ReTHUG

Who,also,expected. Red wave in 2022😀

[LiberalFighter]

7. I'm sure most Republicans will vote a woman to be President.

Maybe 500 years from now.

[North Shore Chicago]

22. If they haven't killed them off by then. n/t

[brush]

66. There you go. It'll never happen. It's always a white male for them.

[PortTack]

99. Nailed it!

[Johonny]

8. Because Haley is so likable?

[Demsrule86]

20. Haley is on the wrong side of abortion...she will lose. They all will...soon no GOP in any

election will be safe. When voters realize the only way to stop the assault on women is to toss them out. I don't know if it will be this year. But it is coming.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

9. Dipshit will still scream " the nomination was stollen from me.!"

He will then launch an Independent run and slam Haley.

I also could be wrong. For both could lose Women, the younger voters, even African-Americans and Latinos, and other voting blocs.

[Lemonwurst]

84. Love the "stollen" reference!

I often don’t think his misspellings are accidental. His staff, whatever that means, likely lets them happen to help the rubes think he’s “one of them”!

[markodochartaigh]

91. Well, I sure

don't think Trump is a "Berliner".

[JohnSJ]

10. If the one-issue self-identified progressives play the same circular firing squad they did in

2016, Steele is probably right.

If Trump is their nominee we should win, as long as women, life long Democrats, and independents come out and vote. The so-called self-identified progressives are not a reliable voting block

[aurora the great]

14. Hello there

I don't want to appear stupid, but I am not a progressive. (not that there's anything wrong with that) Just had to ask what is the one issue progressives rally around? Thank you

[JohnSJ]

33. Hamas/Israel in 2024. In 2016, it was their Hillary hatred

[Voltaire2]

64. Which has fd-all to do with Haley.

[Demsrule86]

23. No he is not right. Haley is not liked by progressives...she is hard right.

[JohnSJ]

34. My point isn't that they would vote for Haley, but they wouldn't vote for Biden, and independents would shift to

a Haley candidate over Biden, but not a trump candidacy

[Voltaire2]

68. Oh sure the theory that it wasn't disgruntled blue collar midwestern men

who didn't show up for Clinton in critical states, it was somehow leftist voters who were primarily in east and west coast urban blue states that magically caused Clinton to lose swing states she should have won.

[JohnSJ]

127. In 2016 in every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while

Jill Stein received 1% in those critical swing states

It didn’t take much but it made a difference

Those same “leftists voters” are already saying they won’t vote for Biden in 2024 because of the Israeli Gaza situation

Those self identified progressives are not that reliable. 2000 and 2016 demonstrated that.

Hell, even integral members of the Sanders campaign couldn’t be convinced to vote for Hillary in 2016, even though the SC was at stake. David Sirota, Nina Turner, Cornell West, Briahna Joy Gray.

Cornell West is running as an independent, and the polls indicate his candidacy will hurt Biden.

So believe what you want, but the numbers say differently

The stakes could not be higher

[brush]

72. Nah, many independents are left-leaning, and many are women...

who don't like republicans' abortion policies. Your logic is faulty.

[elleng]

36. Could be,

sadly, we're 'good' at that.

(Contrary to the apparent views of 'some' here, Steele knows what he's talking about.)

[JohnSJ]

37. I think the problem is Haley could attract independents if she was the nominee, and that would hurt us.

[elleng]

40. No doubt about that.

[JohnSJ]

41. I think the odds are that trump will be their nominee though

[elleng]

42. Surely those are the odds.

[emulatorloo]

49. I don't see Dem leaning independents going for her, she's still wrong on abortion and not

as ‘moderate’ on other issues as she may appear to be. Been wrong before though.

[Voltaire2]

69. center right independents. nt.

[Voltaire2]

63. The only voters Haley appeals to are center right voters

who are uncomfortable with Trump. But sure bash the left.

[ificandream]

11. One man's opinon.

BFD.

[GhostHunter22]

139. Not really...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nikki-haley-fares-best-against-biden-2024-presidential-election-poll/

"While Republican primary voters think Donald Trump is their best shot in November, it's Nikki Haley who right now holds a bigger lead over Joe Biden than either Trump or Ron DeSantis in potential head-to-head match-ups.”

…From the article (and poll).

[TexasBushwhacker]

12. If Haley gets the Republican nomination

Trump will run as an Independent or encourage his minions to write him in.

[JohnSJ]

35. If trump runs as an independent, it is almost a certainty we would win

[TexasBushwhacker]

58. I agree. But we have to remember

as long as he's "running", even if it's impossible for him to win, he is still "fund raising" and skimming those bucks into offshore accounts. It always was about money and it still is.

[PortTack]

100. If it's about the money, then President Biden is sitting pretty with his record breaking 97 mil in the last qrt of '23

[Elessar Zappa]

13. I don't buy that.

If Trump loses the nomination, he’ll spend every waking minute tearing Haley down and making her persona-non-grata in the eyes of the magat base and enough will stay home to ensure a Biden victory.

[Buckeyeblue]

16. Yes he will

I can't envision the scenario that Trump doesn't get the nominee, unless he drops dead.

[3catwoman3]

125. Every day, I hope to hear that he has croaked.

I can't happen soon enough.

[Talitha]

132. "unless he drops dead"

Just the thought of it makes my heart sing.

[PortTack]

102. Exactly...he's already ruined little white boots..of course white boots hasn't helped his cause

Wait till he takes the gloves off with her!

[Silent3]

15. In the highly unlikely event Haley were to win the nomination...

...Trump, then, unless Trump keels over from a heart attack (or Haley wins the nomination because Trump already had a heart attack), Trump runs as an independent.

In a three way Biden/Haley/Trump match up, I think it's most likely that Haley and Trump steal more votes from each other than from Biden, and Biden gets the plurality and wins.

If it's just Biden/Haley, I see Republican base enthusiasm being very low. Many would-be Trump voters write in Trump (even if he's dead) or stay home. Biden wins.

Am I certain of all this? Of course not. But I this is more plausible than Haley beating Trump.

[peggysue2]

17. Haley isn't winning the nomination and even if she did . . .

MAGA would never vote for a woman (or anyone else besides Trump) and Donnie has already tagged Haley as ineligible bc of her immigrant parents. That stigma will stick, even though it's bogus.

Anyone taking this nomination from Trump would be hounded, harassed and intimidated up until Election Day and beyond. If Trump can't have the spot, nobody will have the spot. He'd burn the Republican Party down first while dragging the rest of country through the dirt.

It's who the man is.

As for MAGA? I just listened a series of MAGAs tell a CNN reporter they'd rather vote for Trump as a dictator than Joe Biden as a president.

They are totally lost to the madness.

[spanone]

18. ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️

[Bev54]

60. Maga won't vote for her, they will probably stay home and whoever

Is the republican nominee needs Maga to win

[Walleye]

82. Exactly, how are you going to vote for somebody Trump called birdbrain if you're a maga

[unblock]

19. Michael Steele has really gone downhill since her days of playing bass in the bangles.

https://www.imago-images.com/st/0308332729

[spanone]

21. Politics will do that to you.

[Yavin4]

25. She's not White.

She won't get the nomination.

[Dan]

45. Oh, I actually believe that she will get the nomination.

Not because of her qualifications, but because I believe the SCOTUS will determine that Trump is not eligible.

But, I also believe that she doesn’t understand her party, there are a couple of reasons that they won’t come out and vote for her.

1. She is not White.

2. She is a female and doesn’t understand her place.

[brush]

76. And not a white man either. Magats won't vote for a woman.

[lindysalsagal]

26. He's so sure a woman of color can win potus?

I wish that were possible, in this year where half the country wants to return our laws to the 17th century. But, ok! Whatever! Biden's gottit.

[getagrip_already]

31. Yesh. She may not be black, but she aint white....

According to magats. And she is a she thing.

And her parents are they things.

Three strikes. Sorry mike.

[Ocelot II]

27. And Republicans won't like Nikki Haley - at least the MAGAt contingent won't.

TFG will do everything he can to bring her down in the unlikely event she's the nominee. He'd rather see her lose to Biden than win the presidency that he thinks he was deprived of. And the MAGAts won't vote for a brown woman who's the daughter of immigrants; they'd stay home.

[Cha]

28. How Full of SHIT Can you GET, MS.

Fuck his Stupidity.

[Chainfire]

29. It is going to be a long year.

[2naSalit]

30. I whole heartedly disagree...

And she won't carry with enough "R" voters to win.

[Bucky]

44. You think Trump voters won't vote for a different Republican nominee?

I don't think that's a realistic view. The current polling is not unambiguous. Trump is their weakest candidate and is beating Biden by 2%. Haley is beating Biden by 8%. Trump's voters just suddenly not caring anymore isn't a wise strategy.

A lot of people voted against Trump in 2020 because they were tired of the divisiveness and the incompetence. If Haley's the nominee, she'll be the face that people associate with ending partisanship. That's exactly how Dubya bamboozled the voters in 2000. It's not a hard pose to strike.

[2naSalit]

47. Polls...

Schmolls, they don't carry much weight for me since they are so often wrong and are easily manipulated anymore.

[Bucky]

50. It's okay to deny the facts we don't like right now.

But at some point we're gonna have to grapple with the fact that a well-managed economy, a scandal-free administration, and an inept opposition in Congress isn't keeping Biden from historically lousy approval ratings. Biden (despite being an effective president) s a weak candidate, if you go by the numbers. Saying "Oh I don't believe polls cause they could be wrong" isn't getting ready for a very tough election. I don't think it's a smart strategy. In some ways, it feels almost like we're re-running the 2016 campaign plan. I didn't like how that one turned out.

[brush]

79. Republicans won't vote for a woman, and trump ain't beating all of those 91 felony charges.

Biden will win. The polls now don't mean sh_t.

[PortTack]

92. Right wing owned media....of course the poll is going to say the gqp candidate will win regardless

This isn’t about not liking what the polls say, the polls have been worthless for at least the last 3 election cycles.
It’s about the gqp overturning RvW and 75+ % of Americans are still furious
It’s about the Dems over performing, last year winning 24 out of 30 special and off yr elections
It’s about hayle being a woman and not white enough to suit them
George Conway said it best on CNN over the weekend saying tfg will destroy whoever wins if it isn’t him. If he tells his cult not to vote, they won’t. Went as far as to say the other candidates have no real path.
And lastly what about IA caucus voters saying if hayle is the candidate rather than tfg they will vote for president Biden

????

Not worried

[czarjak]

32. Didn't Rushbo set him straight regarding The Rich White Guy Party?

NOBODY is looking for a Republican Alternative, Mike. But , Heck-Of-A-Job-Though.

[Bucky]

38. Steele might be right. 10 months is a long time, but he can read the current polls

You can disagree with Steele, but you'd be disagreeing with numbers. Current polls show

Trump beating Biden by 2 points

DeSantis beating Biden by 3 points

Haley beating Biden by 8 points

I've been saying this for months, that she's their strongest candidate. If you're thinking Trump voters won't turn out for a different Republican nominee, you're fooling yourself.

I'm not allowed to say that running Biden for a second term was a mistake, so I won't, but he's a far less popular candidate than his economic track record deserves him to be.

[Walleye]

88. Magas aren't going to vote for anybody who beat Trump

Also don’t get discouraged and underestimate Joe. He is a winner

[PortTack]

103. This

[wiggs]

39. Only if Trump endorses her. And there are many reasons why he should endorse her, after

dropping out.

Steele, along with many, forget that dems haven't even started to make their case for potus. once a gop nominee is established, you'll see massive campaigning by Biden, leading dems, and if it's Trump you'll see many gop and many of Trump's former administration talk about his many, many flaws as a human and as a leader. He is stupendously unfit. That's not even accounting for his legal and civl troubles.

If he doesn't get the nomination after trying for it...he burns the gop to the ground. Lindsey will have been right about something.

[Voltaire2]

73. lol 'after trump drops out'

He doesn't lose. He gets robbed. He keeps running.

[wiggs]

112. Right. Never loses which is why another loss will be intolerable given his

disease. He'll drop out with assurances of a pardon...he'll blame everyone else for having to step aside and will sue James, Bragg, Jack Smith, Rachel Maddow, and the DNC for election interference. He may even offer to bow out if RNC, GOP, NRA and Haley offer money...for his time and sacrifice. Yes he was robbed again! Send money!

A self pardon is questionable, he won't likely win against Biden anyway, and another loss to Biden validates the 2020 loss

He may not do it this way because of his...limitations...but he edging close to the cliff legally and civilly here and needs an off-ramp badly.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

43. Steele's never been a pundit of any great depth.

He just heard from another pundit that "Democrats don't like Joe Biden" and accepted it as beltway conventional wisdom, making it safe for him to repeat on air. Lather Rinse Repeat. He reminds me of some of the lightweights Tweety always had doing panel, filling airtime without dispensing any actual insight.

[blm]

51. And Trump cult doesn't like anyone BUT Trump.

[Ocelot II]

52. You know what they say about opinions -

They're like assholes; everybody's got one, and they all smell.

[PatrickforB]

53. Well, still early days, and I haven't noticed the media covering

Trump taking ownership of ending abortion rights. He said that on camera but they didn't even cover it.

But you know Biden's starting to come out swinging.

[VMA131Marine]

54. Nikki won't win because Trump will run third party

He’s running to stay out of jail. That maybe why Nikki promised to pardon him: so he wouldn’t run against her if she actually got the nomination.

[Freethinker65]

55. They will say anything to have Trump not win the Presidency. It is that important that Trump loses.

If convincing people to vote for Haley, tanks Trump's primary run, there is no way Trump wins.

Haley would do better with sane Republicans and moderates, but would lose much of the batshit crazy Trump worshippers. I think even if Haley ran commercials declaring she would pardon Trump of all past and future crimes, and Trump endorsed her, she would not get all of Trump's supporters' votes. And if she promised such a pardon, she would lose some moderate votes.

[senseandsensibility]

56. When Steele was beginning his journey away from the repugs

he was asked on MSNBC if he would have voted for Hillary under any circumstances. He was supposedly anti- trump then but I'll never forget the way he said "Oh, God, no!" in horror.

[Polly Hennessey]

57. Exactly. "Never tRumpers" just hate tRump.

They will promote and vote for any other Republican.

[Warpy]

59. A Republican who lives in the Republican bubble

would certainly know what Democrats all think.

[brooklynite]

61. Steele wants to defeat Trump...

If you’re uncomfortable hearing opinions that vary from your own, better off not watching cable news.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

122. Agree 100%

[brush]

62. Fu_k that. He's still a republican. Haley isn't getting the nod...

and even if she does, magats won't vote for a woman, women won't vote for her republican abortion stance, and she won't beat Biden. Steele is going by polls 11 months away, with the economy improving everyday.

Have to keep in mind that he's still a republican.

[Sneederbunk]

65. She can't beat TFG in her home state.

[Walleye]

94. That's funny because TFG never won New York, his home state

[Sneederbunk]

101. Trump won the 2016 NY presidential primary.

[PortTack]

104. More than likely...and very telling

[RockRaven]

67. Lots of people chalking it up to him being a GrOPer, but him being a

talking head on MSNBC is just as good of a bias/factor.

The prospect of Haley beating Biden (or having a better chance at it than TFG) makes the Repug primary have stakes/importance for their target audience, whereas otherwise it would be uninteresting or a nonstory. Cable news thrives on creating anxiety in the audience so they feel compelled to stay tuned in, to get the next tidbit of otherwise non urgent non useful info.

[brush]

86. The cable new audience is a very small slice of the electorate.

Especially MSNBC compared to FOX. Steele's bleatings don't reach many, and don't amount to much.

[Voltaire2]

70. If Trump is not the nominee the republicans will lose by an even larger margin

A lot of maga fascists will not vote for her.

[pinkstarburst]

71. I think Haley is harder to beat than Trump

I don't think she necessarily beats Biden, but I think the race is more up in the air in a Biden-Haley matchup because there are so many unknown factors.

With Trump/Biden, we've run this race before in 2020. Biden won. The nation has already had 4 years of Trump's crazy and they didn't like it. Now they're also seeing Trump on trial, Trump supporting the Jan 6th insurrection. We will never win over the right wing nuts, but the independents in the middle may shiver at the thought of another 4 years with Trump telling people to drink lysol and that there were airplanes in the American Revolution. Both he and Biden will be in their 80's, but Trump was never smart enough to be president even at the top of his game, and he's demonstrated that.

The issue with Haley is that in a matchup between her and Biden, I think it's closer. Biden's approval numbers aren't great. There are plenty of people who are not thrilled about the idea of an 86 year old president, and Haley is a young, intelligent alternative to that. Haley will have to combat the same things Hillary did--all the sexists who looked at the smartest candidate we ever had to run in 2016 and elected a buffoon instead because they didn't want a woman president. She will have to face all that same sexism, PLUS racism.

The question will then become, in a Biden vs. Haley race, is the country more sexist/racist, or more unhappy about an 86 year old president with Kamala Harris next in line? And then how do they vote in that scenario or do they just stay home?

[bullwinkle428]

74. Absolutely wishful thinking on Steele's part. He would run back to

the Republicans in the blink of an eye.

[vercetti2021]

75. I doubt it

MAGA's will never vote for anyone besides him, plus add she is a woman on top of it. Na Biden would beat her. She would need the crazies. There isn't enough moderates or "independents" to swing it to her alone.

[AverageOldGuy]

77. Will Trump campaign for Haley???

[WarGamer]

78. Disagree.

If Trump were defeated in 24 in the Primary (won't happen) no one else would get the Trump base.

Best case scenario for the GOP is for Trump to lose in 24 and then have his base look for the next big thing...

[themaguffin]

80. She would appeal to never trumpers or trump voters who hold their nose, BUT she's not getting any Dem voters. None.

Not that it matters because most of her party won't leave trump.

[BaronChocula]

81. People and their predictions

Michael Steele doesn't know that Nikki Haley will beat Biden. If the consumer economy holds now that everyone's tired of predicting recession, Biden will not only have the advantage of the incumbency, but a good economy to run on. Odds will be in Biden's favor. Haley will try to run on her economic record in South Carolina, but Biden will pummel her with the fact that she should thank the Obama Biden Administration for any economic success in her state.

[NoMoreRepugs]

83. Oh please. What BULLSHIT.

[Nasruddin]

85. While anything is possible

While anything is possible at this stage ...
I'm convinced Nikki Haley is a moron. (See recent gaffe history.)
Like George Bush, but would anyone want to have a beer with her?
Given her gaffe history, I don't think she could even give away that beer on a hot summer day. Could be wrong tho.

[MagickMuffin]

87. And this is the reason NOT to vote in their primaries

I posted on a thread today about voting for Halley in the primaries just to throw a monkey wrench in their process. I said it was a stupid idea.

2008 we had Rush Limbaugh messing with our primaries in Texas. I worked the Texas Two Step Caucus and believe me there were a lot of republicans in line to (wait for it) vote for Hillary. Not sure why they’d choose Hillary over Barack, can’t quite put my finger on it.


I’m not in favor of gumming up the works, as there can be consequences they haven’t thought about.

[MichMan]

121. I think they wanted to make sure the primary battle dragged out as long as possible

Keep them spending campaign money by fighting each other

[kimbutgar]

89. Haley will not get the nomination and will not beat Joe Biden

Some of my friends in school were black and not saying slavery was the reason of the civil will be used against her and she also wasn’t the great governor of SC!

[Shermann]

90. Haley has an enthusiasm problem with her "supporters"

Choosing her on an internet poll while sipping hot chocolate is different from going out into the cold and standing in line to vote for her.

[Trueblue Texan]

93. Clearly, he doesn't know what he's talking about...even in his own party.

No way they will choose a woman over a man...And a woman whose parents weren't born here? that's why so many don't like Kamala! Clearly they don't choose their candidate due to competence--if they did they'd all vote for Biden. The Democrats will vote for Biden. The women and those who care about women will vote Biden-Harris.

[Joinfortmill]

96. Remember who he is.

[JoseBalow]

97. drumpf would keep grifting as an independent

which would split the repug vote, and give the election to Joe.

Then drumpf would claim victory anyways, and keep up the grift as long as he can. His cult will keep giving him money for as long as he can think up reasons to ask for it.

[Chainfire]

98. It is election year and everybody has crystal balls.

Except Trump, he has no balls at all.

[Oneironaut]

105. It depends how many Free Palestine dummies decide to not vote / vote for Trump.

That or Jill Stein voters. Ugh...

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

141. SS; DE

Same shit, different election

[betsuni]

106. She's "establishment." Not going to "inspire" the radical racist Trump base nuts.

[BlueTsunami2018]

108. I feel like she probably would too.

Not because Democrats don’t like the President but because all the never Тяцмр Republicans come home with her as the nominee and a sizable portion of the Independents aren’t enamored of President Biden.

Reality is reality.

Biden is there to beat Тяцмр. I feel like he would squeak it out against DeSantis too. He’s so unlikable and has the charisma of a ten car pileup.

[MichMan]

109. President Biden is going to win by 20 points

Doesn't matter who runs against him

[Polybius]

114. No he's not

Reagan didn't even win by 20 points in 1984, and he won 49 states.

[MichMan]

118. Mondale wasn't in jail with a life sentence

[Polybius]

128. The country is too divided for any candidate to win by that much

Generational, charismatic, and popular candidates like Reagan, Clinton, and Obama couldn't even do it. It'll be within 5 points or less. Feel free to bookmark.

[Raine]

119. IMO it will be a real squeaker no matter who

he runs against.

[Polybius]

115. He's not dumping Kamala Harris

That would piss off a huge amount of the electorate.

[we can do it]

111. Who here wants Nikkki as candidate?

[Polybius]

113. So?

It's an opinion, most polls say it, and many even on DU share it. Doesn't meant we want it to happen. Plus she's not getting the nomination anyway, so no need to worry.

[krawhitham]

116. I get the fear, but trump will burn it all down if he loses, he will tell his followers to stay home and not vote

[roamer65]

117. She won't get the nomination.

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The Dumpists won’t allow it. They will rip the GQP to shreds to stop her or anyone other than Dump.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

120. OMG...he was just looking at poll. Is ALL reality gone?

[LymphocyteLover]

123. MSNBC is NOT OUR FRIEND at all

despite having some good people on there

[hay rick]

134. Agree.

I saw a recent segment in which they were interviewing people who said they were going to vote in Iowa's caucus. There were two young black people, a youngish Indian looking male, and a middle-aged white lady. I thought the choice of people to air was extraordinarily unrepresentative of the real expected electorate and was designed to show that ordinary, nice non-white people could seriously be considering which of these fascists might be worthy of their support.

MSNBC's relentless focus on Trump's trials comes at the expense of coverage of other important issues. The whole spectacle is exhausting and debilitating.

[viva la]

126. An anti-choice candidate is NOT going to get many crossover votes--

Not after Dobbs.

Plus she's such a weasel.

[claudette]

129. Never happen

No way would Haley be the first woman president! She's Dump in heels.

[OAITW r.2.0]

130. Mike doing his part, keeping eyeballs on MSNBC/2024

[angrychair]

131. Republican is a Republican

Can't help themselves. That someone who seems as smart as Michael Steele, that he carrying water for Republicans calls that into question.

[doc03]

133. It doesn't matter she won't get the nomination anyway nt

[GoodRaisin]

135. Michael Steele is wrong.

If Haley (or anyone) other than Trump won the nomination Trump would lead a magat walkout. With the magats go the election. Trump either goes 3rd party or magats stay home, severely affecting the Republican down ticket. The magats are so far up Trump’s ass they will never find their way back.

[Renew Deal]

136. Do you agree?

[Jilly_in_VA]

137. Conceivably she could

BUT.....and it's a big one......or several ones...

1. If Slobfather loses, he may decide to take them all down with him.
2. She has the same handicap Hillary had....she's a woman
3. Plus another one.....she's a brown person, and a lot of racists ain't gonna vote that way.

[FlyingPiggy]

138. Oh FFS!!! Democrats hate Trump even more!!! WTF is wrong w Steele?

[shrike3]

140. Yeah, that's the narrative, "Everybody hates Joe Biden. Even Democrats."

Been the media narrative for a while now.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

142. Fuck the MSM, fuck their greed