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Botany

(70,726 posts)
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 07:33 PM Jan 2024

Nikki Haley today, "America has never been a racist country."

R you shitting me? Slavery, Jim Crow Laws, the genocide of the native people, segregation,
income levels, slums, the KKK, Pine Ridge S.D., any old western movie, southern strategy,
voting problems, George Wallace, Trump, red lining of neighborhoods, the U.S. military
prior to integration, reservations, life spans, manifest destiny, Rush Limbaugh take on
Donavan McNabb, gerrymandering, lynching, South Carolina’s history, Ohio 2004 voting
Cuyahoga County, sundown cities, trail of tears, President Jackson, Church shooting in
South Carolina, Obama wasn’t born in America, the old Cleveland Indians mascot, MLB,
Public Schools, Jerry Falwell’s church no need to go to church w/blacks, and ….



Don’t forget our treatment of the brown people from south of the border.
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Nikki Haley today, "America has never been a racist country." (Original Post) Botany Jan 2024 OP
They have gone bluestarone Jan 2024 #1
Hmmm... Mike Nelson Jan 2024 #2
Banks Red lining blm Jan 2024 #3
Redlining was federal policy! hedda_foil Jan 2024 #8
The Osage County murders. niyad Jan 2024 #43
After Rail Roads were built Codifer Jan 2024 #45
She trying to be funny? Emile Jan 2024 #4
Says woman "birthered" by leading R candidate ALBliberal Jan 2024 #5
Oh, you don't understand! Of course there have been a few racist *people* here and there, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #6
Don't forget - those lucky enough to be slaves were taught meaningful skills. Probatim Jan 2024 #67
Making ignorant statements like that is why this dummy came in third in Iowa... brush Jan 2024 #7
It will get her Trump voters if something happens to Donny Botany Jan 2024 #10
If that happens Dems just have to run that foolishness 24/7, along with the Civil War silliness... brush Jan 2024 #13
Only 3/5s a racist country SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2024 #9
Snork! brush Jan 2024 #22
Nikki, honey; if you get the nomination, you're going to find out just how racist this country is. Aristus Jan 2024 #11
Tricky Nikki is Clarence Thomas in a dress NEOBuckeye Jan 2024 #32
Tricky Nikki. I like it. sueh Jan 2024 #56
She knows this fits into white evangelical religious dogma which is the GOP base. walkingman Jan 2024 #12
I'm sure she'll say she was joking or we misheard/misunderstood her sakabatou Jan 2024 #14
she the one who hides her birth name to avoid racist republicans? nt msongs Jan 2024 #15
"When her family first arrived, they had trouble finding someone who would rent to them" dalton99a Jan 2024 #16
A humble person would have joined the Dems NEOBuckeye Jan 2024 #33
Is she really that stupid? spanone Jan 2024 #17
No. It's called propaganda and lies. WarGamer Jan 2024 #19
She's stupid to say it. She's 1000% unqualified. spanone Jan 2024 #24
no Skittles Jan 2024 #65
Look at this PATHETIC quote from her campaign.... clean up in aisle 9 WarGamer Jan 2024 #18
What the...? That campaign is doomed with spokespersons making dumb statements like that. brush Jan 2024 #25
It raises the question. Is Nikki Haley stupid? Renew Deal Jan 2024 #20
She's Not Racist -- Just Pandering to the Racists NonPC Jan 2024 #71
Just how full of Shit is ol Gaslit Haley? Cha Jan 2024 #21
Oh for the love of Pete! Lulu KC Jan 2024 #23
I suspect a short one for Nikki Haley, though. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2024 #68
"Love me bigots! BaronChocula Jan 2024 #26
Brown people south of the border malaise Jan 2024 #27
Yeah Sure Ya Betcha Faux pas Jan 2024 #28
She forgot a word BootOutTheGoons Jan 2024 #29
American racists would be the first ones to disagree with Haley, they're very proud of their racist heritage. sop Jan 2024 #30
And wasn't it only last week that an IHOP waitress and her manager refused to serve a black couple-- Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #31
Wow. Lunabell Jan 2024 #34
I guess this is how she won S. Carolina? n/t NEOBuckeye Jan 2024 #35
yeah the Constitution literally said slaves were 3/5ths of a human being, so STFU Nikki Takket Jan 2024 #36
Apparently Nimrata BigMin28 Jan 2024 #37
and the color of the sky in her world is...?? agingdem Jan 2024 #38
I am going to go throw up now. Thank goodness I have not yet had dinner. niyad Jan 2024 #39
Those who forget History.... bpj62 Jan 2024 #40
Tell me why you don't use given name, namarata? JT45242 Jan 2024 #41
What rock has Ms. Haley been under all her life. republianmushroom Jan 2024 #42
She knows. Demobrat Jan 2024 #44
Philadelphia! PTL_Mancuso Jan 2024 #46
welcome to the meanest place on earth. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #47
It was literally written into our frickin' Constitutuon, Nikki ms liberty Jan 2024 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #49
If you don't count 1776-2024. nt Gore1FL Jan 2024 #50
That Nikki was one dumbass wannabe. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2024 #51
Welp. She's done. Just like tiny d and drump. Unelectable. nt ecstatic Jan 2024 #52
Is she really that fucking stupid? Goodheart Jan 2024 #53
Well, she did say the Civil War wasn't about slavery. sop Jan 2024 #58
I hate to ask, but what's the context? maxsolomon Jan 2024 #54
I am sure Rebl2 Jan 2024 #55
Nikki Haley has to spew this Cult Crap democrank Jan 2024 #57
Tim Scott said that not too long ago.... vanlassie Jan 2024 #59
OK, Nimrata, then why don't you go by your real name? not fooled Jan 2024 #60
Ding ding ding...what an idiot she is PortTack Jan 2024 #61
Racism has deep roots in America. Just about every group that immigrated here felt it when they first came here. patphil Jan 2024 #62
She hasn't got a chance in hell Joinfortmill Jan 2024 #63
Nikki Haley doesn't know my old boss Ohioboy Jan 2024 #64
In what America has she lived? LoisB Jan 2024 #66
I don't know, but it wasn't the one on this planet. Ray Bruns Jan 2024 #69
Sure wasn't. LoisB Jan 2024 #72
"South Carolina: too big to be an insane asylum, too small to be a country" struggle4progress Jan 2024 #70

Codifer

(553 posts)
45. After Rail Roads were built
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 09:08 PM
Jan 2024

Chinese exclusion

"No Dogs or Irishmen"

hell; "No Dogs or Sailors" (In the mid-sixties I was paid in cash and only $2 bills so that folks in Long Beach could look in their tills and somehow hate the Navy a bit less)

As a country, we seem to have a knack for hatred and "I got mine, fuck you".

Ocelot II

(116,157 posts)
6. Oh, you don't understand! Of course there have been a few racist *people* here and there,
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 07:43 PM
Jan 2024

and they weren't very nice sometimes, but this isn't a racist country. That's woke and silly. Just like this ridiculous notion that slavery had something to do with the Civil War. How absurd!




Probatim

(2,580 posts)
67. Don't forget - those lucky enough to be slaves were taught meaningful skills.
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 06:07 PM
Jan 2024

They had a good life.

Aside from the beatings, and rape, and starvation, and forced breeding, and so on and so forth.

brush

(54,083 posts)
7. Making ignorant statements like that is why this dummy came in third in Iowa...
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 07:49 PM
Jan 2024

and will soon be history.

brush

(54,083 posts)
13. If that happens Dems just have to run that foolishness 24/7, along with the Civil War silliness...
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 07:59 PM
Jan 2024

during the general election campaign and Joe will wipe the floor with her dumb ass.

And that's what she'll get for pandering-to-white-male-magats...who btw, will never vote a woman, and a woman of color at that.

She's so lost. Was a governor and UN Ambassador but doesn't know the country at all judging by these huge gaffes.

Poor Nimrata, trying so hard to assimilate, but into the wrong party.

Aristus

(66,620 posts)
11. Nikki, honey; if you get the nomination, you're going to find out just how racist this country is.
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 07:56 PM
Jan 2024

I know there are a lot of 'hold your nose and vote' types out there. But they probably don't include white male Republicans. If you even get the nom, they will slice you up one side and down the other. They would probably rather have Joe Biden for another four years than vote for a woman of color.

NEOBuckeye

(2,781 posts)
32. Tricky Nikki is Clarence Thomas in a dress
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:36 PM
Jan 2024

The GOP has always had a few “uppity” token people of color around like Thomas that they tolerate as hand puppets. But that deference only lasts up to a point.

She could very easily find herself thrown under the bus by them if she goes off script or forgets who the real “masters” are.

dalton99a

(81,829 posts)
16. "When her family first arrived, they had trouble finding someone who would rent to them"
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:06 PM
Jan 2024
Haley’s parents Ajit and Raj Randhawa moved to Bamberg in 1969 after living in India. Her father, Ajit Randhawa, had taken a biology professor post at nearby Voorhees College, an historically black college. Her mother worked as a school teacher before opening a clothing store “Exotica” in 1976. They replaced some of the ceiling tiles to create rows of red and blue tiles in the design of the American flag. They stapled 50 white glittery stars to the blue tiles.

When her family first arrived, they had trouble finding someone who would rent to them. They finally found a place, but its owner told the family that they couldn’t entertain blacks, Haley wrote in her autobiography, “Can’t Is Not an Option.”

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/when-nikki-haley-left-world-stage-her-small-sc-hometown-cheered-on-its-biggest-celebrity/article_7f96eeb4-cc8f-11e8-862c-fb23805c9f2d.html

NEOBuckeye

(2,781 posts)
33. A humble person would have joined the Dems
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:39 PM
Jan 2024

Haley really strikes me as someone who has no humility, and no moral center. The more I learn about her, the more contempt I have for her.

WarGamer

(12,573 posts)
18. Look at this PATHETIC quote from her campaign.... clean up in aisle 9
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:08 PM
Jan 2024

“America has always had racism, but America has never been a racist country,” a campaign spokesman said.

brush

(54,083 posts)
25. What the...? That campaign is doomed with spokespersons making dumb statements like that.
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:21 PM
Jan 2024

But it's just echoing her own statements.

Welcome to 3rd place in Iowa, Haley. I thought you could at least beat that lift-wearing, awkward-in-his-own-skin DeSantis character.

Renew Deal

(81,934 posts)
20. It raises the question. Is Nikki Haley stupid?
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jan 2024

Because even the racists she’s trying to court know she’s dumb or lying.

NonPC

(308 posts)
71. She's Not Racist -- Just Pandering to the Racists
Wed Jan 17, 2024, 06:50 PM
Jan 2024

She's using the Fox News formula -- be hot enough so the idiot white males will stare at you and eventually absorb your propaganda.

malaise

(269,644 posts)
27. Brown people south of the border
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:27 PM
Jan 2024

The brown people who are native to the country have a story to tell

BootOutTheGoons

(208 posts)
29. She forgot a word
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:29 PM
Jan 2024

America has never not been a racist country

Now Darling Nikki and her party of goons are making it worse

Kick their asses in November, boot them all out

sop

(10,390 posts)
30. American racists would be the first ones to disagree with Haley, they're very proud of their racist heritage.
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:30 PM
Jan 2024

Lonestarblue

(10,279 posts)
31. And wasn't it only last week that an IHOP waitress and her manager refused to serve a black couple--
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:31 PM
Jan 2024

because they were black? No siree, no racism in this country. What does she think she’s accomplishing with such drivel, other than people thinking she’s a complete idiot! Evidently, that segregation academy she attended provided very little education.

BigMin28

(1,191 posts)
37. Apparently Nimrata
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:46 PM
Jan 2024

has never watched what happened at Central High School in Little Rock in 1957. America's racism was fully on display. She knows though, but as usual, all repubs can do is lie, lie, lie.

agingdem

(7,894 posts)
38. and the color of the sky in her world is...??
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:57 PM
Jan 2024

but then again the Civil War was an economic divide...and slavery was a trade school for Blacks..a leg up, if you will....cannot stand that shallow woman...

bpj62

(999 posts)
40. Those who forget History....
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 08:59 PM
Jan 2024

She was the Governor of a state that wanted to secede in 1832 over the issue of tariffs on English goods. The very same state that 30 years later lead the secession movement in the South and in its articles of secession named slavery as the main reason for leaving the union. Finally in 1951 the South Carolina legislature proudly decided to raise the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia over the state capital as a giant middle finger to the Civil Rights movement that had started after WWII.
Now she will tell you that she had the flag removed from the Capitol building but it is still on the grounds of the Capitol. And finally as a prior poster stated she does not go by her given Indian name and that is for purely political reasons.
What a fraud.

JT45242

(2,353 posts)
41. Tell me why you don't use given name, namarata?
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 09:00 PM
Jan 2024

Seriously, you bragged about making a website dedicated to DeSantis lies and this comes out of your mouth.

WTAF, you brain dead piece of crap.

Demobrat

(9,087 posts)
44. She knows.
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 09:08 PM
Jan 2024

She’s just saying what the racist rednecks want to hear.
As if she could say anything that would convince them to vote for her.

 

PTL_Mancuso

(276 posts)
46. Philadelphia!
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 09:19 PM
Jan 2024

Mayor Frank Rizzo: Fire hoses! German Shepherds!

Wilson Goode: Bombs!
The Move Bombing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing)

Summary:

Date May 13, 1985; 38 years ago
Target MOVE members
Attack type Air Bombing with C4, police brutality[1]
Weapons Tovex, C-4
Outcome Philadelphia Police Department found liable in federal court for excessive force and unreasonable search and seizure
Victims 11 killed, 250 people made homeless
Perpetrators Philadelphia Police Department
Litigation City of Philadelphia ordered to pay $1.5 million in 1996 to a MOVE bombing survivor and the families of people killed,
$12.83 million awarded in 2005 to residents who were made homeless.

ms liberty

(8,656 posts)
48. It was literally written into our frickin' Constitutuon, Nikki
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 09:21 PM
Jan 2024

And it is an integral part of our history since our arrival on this Continent.

Response to Botany (Original post)

maxsolomon

(33,516 posts)
54. I hate to ask, but what's the context?
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 09:39 PM
Jan 2024

Cons have all kinds of rhetorical gymnastics they use to make absurd-on-its-face statements like this. You only provided the outrageous portion of what was probably a speech.

Was she saying racism isn't explicit in the Constitution?

patphil

(6,285 posts)
62. Racism has deep roots in America. Just about every group that immigrated here felt it when they first came here.
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 10:20 PM
Jan 2024

It never completely goes away. Look how long it took for a Catholic to be elected President; for a black man to be put on the Supreme Court; for a black man to be elected President; for a black woman to become vice-president; for a Native American to be a cabinet member.
There still hasn't been a Native American on the Supreme Court, or a female President.
The list of first times, and still not's is very long.
Also, the list of derogatory nicknames of a racial, ethnic or religious nature is long and still comes into play.

Now the Republican Party wants to deny it's existence, while embracing it's very core. Nikki Haley should know better, but...Republican.

Ohioboy

(3,260 posts)
64. Nikki Haley doesn't know my old boss
Tue Jan 16, 2024, 10:32 PM
Jan 2024

That guy used to use the N word all the time and told racist jokes. I know he wasn't smart enough to make up all the jokes he told, so there must have been a few racists out there making them up.

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