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Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 07:07 AM Jan 2024

'Largest presidential grift in history': House Dem drops the hammer on Trump and Kushner

Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA) on Thursday dropped the hammer on former President Donald Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, for raking in serious foreign cash off Trump's four-year tenure in the White House.

During a speech on the floor of the House of Representatives, Garcia declared that "Donald Trump and his family, especially the Kushners, participated in the largest presidential grift in history." Garcia then proceeded to outline the evidence for this that he and his Democratic colleagues had gathered.

"We have records of 24 governments funneling millions into Trump properties and into Donald Trump's pockets while he was president, all in violation of the U.S. Constitution," Garcia argued, referencing the Constitution's so-called emoluments clause that bars presidents from accepting payments or titles from foreign governments. "And this is just the tip of the iceberg."

Garcia then said that so far he has only been able to access records of foreign payments to four Trump properties, meaning that foreign governments may have funneled even more cash into the president's coffers in other places.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-emoluments-clause/


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'Largest presidential grift in history': House Dem drops the hammer on Trump and Kushner (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Jan 2024 OP
Get thee to the greatest page for visibility malaise Jan 2024 #1
Yes! llmart Jan 2024 #3
Great question malaise Jan 2024 #15
MSM is part of corporate America & also relies on corporations buying ads Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #22
The capitalist system is an evil thing-can't people see in this example how it does not work for the people? Stargazer99 Jan 2024 #48
KICK kick... louder LOUDER IcyPeas Jan 2024 #2
At least one of which involved voting machines, I believe judesedit Jan 2024 #9
Yep Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #23
indeed Evolve Dammit Jan 2024 #40
And drum roll......this is why Trump is so rainy Jan 2024 #4
zzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Jan 2024 #5
DAMNED STRAIGHT!!!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Jan 2024 #32
her emails and Benghazi. Whitewater and CONSENSUAL sex. Orange Julius and family is SOOO much more egregious. Evolve Dammit Jan 2024 #41
Gotta keep your powder dry. Barry Markson Jan 2024 #47
So ... establish a Senate inquiry. speak easy Jan 2024 #6
Comer is blocking it Owens Jan 2024 #13
How can Comer block a Senate inquiry? speak easy Jan 2024 #17
Robert Garcia is in the House ExWhoDoesntCare Jan 2024 #29
K&R spanone Jan 2024 #7
Keep at them! 2naSalit Jan 2024 #8
This is a HUGE fraud, glad it is getting a bit of attention Dorn Jan 2024 #10
Just one more wave in Trump's Tsunami of Criminality. sop Jan 2024 #11
Although that may not have been "illegal" but rather "impeachable" ... Justice matters. Jan 2024 #31
Wake me when something is done either to punish it or to prevent it in the future. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #12
We need you awake to bring it to the attention of those around you. lastlib Jan 2024 #19
Of course we will all do all we can to keep him out of power, but that is not the issue here. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #20
"The issue here is whether the law applies to him or not." BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 #28
Yup. And if we think it's a slam dunk that the SC WON'T rule that a President can Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #37
Exactly. BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 #38
About goddamn time dalton99a Jan 2024 #14
WHat about off shore accounts as a place that money was funneled to? fierywoman Jan 2024 #16
K n R. lastlib Jan 2024 #18
u arnt hearing about him scamming the secret service everytime they stay at one of his properties . AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #21
Ties in with this: MyOwnPeace Jan 2024 #34
Dems gotta keep sayin it lindysalsagal Jan 2024 #24
Many of them have been saying it ExWhoDoesntCare Jan 2024 #30
All that was just the tip of the Iceberg DENVERPOPS Jan 2024 #25
I had forgotten about that Patriots thing, Abigail_Adams Jan 2024 #46
Absolutely DENVERPOPS Jan 2024 #49
Broadcast this out to all ! Wild blueberry Jan 2024 #26
And do republicans "care", nope. Not one i-o-da. republianmushroom Jan 2024 #27
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jan 2024 #33
"Take Care of this House" by Leonard Bernstein SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2024 #35
Very apropos. ShazzieB Jan 2024 #39
Lyrics by Alan Jay Lerner SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2024 #44
Oh, it was a flop? ShazzieB Jan 2024 #45
KnR Hekate Jan 2024 #36
It's Interesting to See Who is Running with It. qwlauren35 Jan 2024 #42
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Jan 2024 #43

llmart

(17,624 posts)
3. Yes!
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 07:56 AM
Jan 2024

Where is the public's outrage over this criminality? Where is the outrage from the ex-tea party people who were always soooo....concerned about taxpayers' monies? And lastly, where are our mainstream media outlets reporting on this 24/7 instead of the incessant coverage of every fart out of the orange one's mouth?

Attilatheblond

(8,887 posts)
22. MSM is part of corporate America & also relies on corporations buying ads
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:17 PM
Jan 2024

Those corporations probably do not want Biden/DEMS to win because the tax cuts they got under Trump/GOP will go bye bye and the most profitable corporations would have to pay a fair share under DEM legislative/executive power.

Stargazer99

(3,517 posts)
48. The capitalist system is an evil thing-can't people see in this example how it does not work for the people?
Sat Jan 20, 2024, 05:59 AM
Jan 2024

Attilatheblond

(8,887 posts)
23. Yep
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:19 PM
Jan 2024

So when GOP pols whine about election fraud, they probably know of which they speak. As they point one finger at DEMs, their other fingers are pointing back at themselves.

rainy

(6,321 posts)
4. And drum roll......this is why Trump is so
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 08:27 AM
Jan 2024

desperately trying to impeach Biden by accusing him of taking foreign money before it gets out that TRUMP was deep into taking money and bribes.

MyOwnPeace

(17,564 posts)
32. DAMNED STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:06 PM
Jan 2024

WE knew all of this shit was going on WHEN it was happening - and BITCHED about it - and NOBODY did shit about it!
Hotels - golf courses - son-in-law getting BILLIONS in 'loans' - paying millions to 'protect' Tweetle-Dee and Tweetle-Dumb to fly all over the world and sell more 'tRump' signs for roach-infested hotels - and the only thing we hear is 'HUNTER.'

GIVE ME A BREAK!

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
41. her emails and Benghazi. Whitewater and CONSENSUAL sex. Orange Julius and family is SOOO much more egregious.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 04:51 PM
Jan 2024
 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. Robert Garcia is in the House
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:50 PM
Jan 2024

So he can't make the Senate do anything.

However, you are free to contact your Senator, or any Democratic Senator if you don't have one, if you want them to address it.

The contact list is here:

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

sop

(18,639 posts)
11. Just one more wave in Trump's Tsunami of Criminality.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 09:48 AM
Jan 2024

We'll be uncovering stuff like this for decades to come. What a shame Trump is above the law.

Justice matters.

(9,791 posts)
31. Although that may not have been "illegal" but rather "impeachable" ...
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:53 PM
Jan 2024

It should have been done for a third impeachment while he was desecrating the Oval Office.

But we all know the Repugs in the Senate would have never voted to remove him on the grounds of unconstitutionality.

lastlib

(28,281 posts)
19. We need you awake to bring it to the attention of those around you.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:36 AM
Jan 2024

You know they're filthy, I know they're filthy, but the word has to reach those too complacent to keep up with their criminal activity. The more we reach, the better our chances of keeping him out of power.

Scrivener7

(59,528 posts)
20. Of course we will all do all we can to keep him out of power, but that is not the issue here.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:44 AM
Jan 2024

The issue here is whether the law applies to him or not.

This latest "revelation" is kind of silly, given that we have known for years about his graft, including members of his family getting 2 billion from the Saudis and 1.6 billion from Qatar, and nothing has been done about it.

If those who enforce these rules have not been moved to investigate 3.6 billion in graft in the YEARS we have ALL known about it, forgive me if I don't hold my breath waiting for them to get off their asses now.

BumRushDaShow

(169,810 posts)
28. "The issue here is whether the law applies to him or not."
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:46 PM
Jan 2024

The SCOTUS made fine work of tbe Emoluments suits filed by Democrats once he was out of office -

Supreme Court ends Trump emoluments lawsuits


By MARK SHERMAN
Published 1:08 PM EST, January 25, 2021


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday brought an end to lawsuits over whether Donald Trump illegally profited off his presidency, saying the cases are moot now that Trump is no longer in office.

The high court’s action was the first in an expected steady stream of orders and rulings on pending lawsuits involving Trump now that his presidency has ended. Some orders may result in dismissals of cases since Trump is no longer president. In other cases, proceedings that had been delayed because Trump was in the White House could resume and their pace even quicken.

The justices threw out Trump’s challenge to lower court rulings that had allowed lawsuits to go forward alleging that he violated the Constitution’s emoluments clause by accepting payments from foreign and domestic officials who stay at the Trump International Hotel and patronize other businesses owned by the former president and his family.

The high court also ordered the lower court rulings thrown out as well and directed appeals courts in New York and Richmond, Virginia, to dismiss the suits as moot now that Trump is no longer in office. The outcome leaves no appellate court opinions on the books in an area of the law that has been rarely explored in U.S. history.

(snip)

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-ends-trump-lawsuits-df42ef0eec5fa57edf3e294234051d88


And told America all it needed to know with its bought and paid for self.

Scrivener7

(59,528 posts)
37. Yup. And if we think it's a slam dunk that the SC WON'T rule that a President can
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:58 PM
Jan 2024

shoot someone on 5th avenue while molesting children and robbing a bank with immunity as long as he's in office, we only need remember their behavior with respect to "emoluments." Emoluments meaning possibly the largest con ever committed.

lastlib

(28,281 posts)
18. K n R.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:33 AM
Jan 2024

These basturds are dirtier than any wallowing pig. They grift and steal the way the rest of us breathe.

AllaN01Bear

(29,504 posts)
21. u arnt hearing about him scamming the secret service everytime they stay at one of his properties .
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:03 PM
Jan 2024

MyOwnPeace

(17,564 posts)
34. Ties in with this:
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:12 PM
Jan 2024

"I'll be so busy I won't have TIME to play golf."

Yet another deep dive into the pockets of the American tax payer by a con man. And yes, he charged FULL PRICE for rooms and carts for the Secret Service to 'protect' him.

https://trumpgolfcount.com/


 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
30. Many of them have been saying it
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:52 PM
Jan 2024

But the traitor scum media has given it scant attention.

By design.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
25. All that was just the tip of the Iceberg
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:41 PM
Jan 2024

Ivanka and Jared took charge of all the PPE supplies for the entire nation.......They literally COMANDEERED an unfathomable amount of PPE, respirators, the list is endless. Then they turned around and sold it for many times what it's normal price, and usually only to RED states like Florida while not shipping it at any price to Massachusetts hospitals........You can be sure that none of the transactions were on the books, but at extreme profits, grifted thru Ivanka and Jared which were sent to major off shore accounts somewhere.........and It was a FORTUNE, hundreds of Billions of dollars, maybe even a trillion or more. And for sure, they took a large commission on everything they sold for the entire U.S.

Every state was ordering directly from foreign sources, esp China, trying to get around Jared and Ivanka's massive profiteering scams..... When ANY and ALL foreign orders arrived, they were immediately confiscated by U.S. Customs and turned over to Ivanka and Jared. Massachusetts, being a Blue state couldn't get anything at any price. The Governor of Mass asked the owner of the Patriots to send his cargo planes to China and pick up huge orders and bring them directly to Logan Int Airport........When the planes arrived, the Governor, The State Patrol and Mass National Guard took charge, instead of going to customs where I & J would take control of the massive orders and have them taken to THEIR Federal Warehouses. The planes were told to stop out on the Runways, where the armed Mass Guard surrounded the planes. Then a big bunch of semi trailers were loaded, and the heavily armed State Patrol vehicles escorted the tractor trailers to different hospitals and guarded warehouses............

Those two were also put in charge of buying all the Respirators and other hardware needed for the Pandemic. Then THEY took orders from around the U.S. and were a middle man at extreme commissions for any and all transactions. The phonied up many corporations to make the goods, like respirators at un-fathomable prices, paid them all tens of billions of dollars IN ADVANCE and had a delivery date of five years from the dates of the orders. Companies that weren't even set up or capable of manufacturing the items...Items that were probably never delivered and Jared and Ivanka probably charged 50% commission on the money for themselves.......

As is typical, the pursuit of Hunter Biden is diverting all attention from Trump, Jared, and Ivanka's humongous heist. Trump, and the Republican Politicians, Corporations, etc must win the 2024 election so they can bury all the fraud, corruption, and Treason that occurred in the Trump years. Never to be seen or heard about forever, just like every other Tyranny around the world.

 

Abigail_Adams

(333 posts)
46. I had forgotten about that Patriots thing,
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 08:37 PM
Jan 2024

and I live in Mass. Thanks for the reminder. I'm not a huge fan of Robert Kraft generally, but due props to him, the MA National Guard, and State Police for pulling that off.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
49. Absolutely
Sat Jan 20, 2024, 08:03 PM
Jan 2024

Un-fathomable that they had to go to such lengths to attempt to save the mass of citizens.........

and Trump: Fiddled while Rome Burned...............He deserves the death penalty for just his actions/non-actions during the Covid Fiasco, along with his spawn, Jared and the entire republican senate............

It is absolutely un-fathomable to me to see the occurrences of the last 6+ years............and the 70 million who swallowed the kool-aid by the gallon and have kept right on chugging..........

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
35. "Take Care of this House" by Leonard Bernstein
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:15 PM
Jan 2024

For his play 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I've sung this, but never felt the urgency of it til now.

?si=nNnJsSiPpr9dcFzi

ShazzieB

(22,600 posts)
39. Very apropos.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 03:53 PM
Jan 2024
Be careful at night
Check all thе doors
If someone makes off with a dream
That dream will be yours


So painfully true. *sigh*

ShazzieB

(22,600 posts)
45. Oh, it was a flop?
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 07:29 PM
Jan 2024

That explains why I had never heard of the show until now!

I went and looked up the lyrics to that song out of curiosity, and I thought those particular lines seemed especially pertinent to this conversation.

qwlauren35

(6,309 posts)
42. It's Interesting to See Who is Running with It.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 06:17 PM
Jan 2024

It made Yahoo news and I tend to think of them as Trump supporters.
It made Forbes Breaking News... corporate.
It made various media sites I only vaguely know.
- Medialite
- Salon
- Raw Story
- Medium
- The Stock Dork
- Pride
- Roll Call

Not a single MSM, not even MSNBC, is covering this. Specifics are in the Congressional Record from yesterday.

https://www.congress.gov/118/crec/2024/01/18/170/10/CREC-2024-01-18-pt1-PgH200-3.pdf

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