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kpete

(72,904 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:12 AM Jan 2024

Half of recent US inflation due to high corporate profits, report finds

Thinktank report says ‘resounding evidence’ shows companies continue to keep prices high even as their inflationary costs drop

A new report claims “resounding evidence” shows that high corporate profits are a main driver of ongoing inflation, and companies continue to keep prices high even as their inflationary costs drop.

The report, compiled by the progressive Groundwork Collaborative thinktank, found corporate profits accounted for about 53% of inflation during last year’s second and third quarters. Profits drove just 11% of price growth in the 40 years prior to the pandemic, according to the report.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/19/us-inflation-caused-by-corporate-profits
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Half of recent US inflation due to high corporate profits, report finds (Original Post) kpete Jan 2024 OP
It is capitalism. The choice is the for the consumer. chicoescuela Jan 2024 #1
It's capitalism in its monopolistic phase where the lack of real competition Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #3
True in many industries, I will concede that . chicoescuela Jan 2024 #8
Pre-Famine Ireland had many of the same characteristics Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #12
Exactly, but... a selective "few" get billions upon billions... Justice matters. Jan 2024 #33
Unfortunately capitalism is quite resilient. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #36
Yup and our buddies in big oil and fossil fuel business (gas and oil) have made record profits ... Botany Jan 2024 #2
Exactly right. FalloutShelter Jan 2024 #4
Too true. summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #51
The cost of transportation fuel affects everything else. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2024 #7
I heard an old man in Aldi complaining about the price on the cheese Marthe48 Jan 2024 #24
Exactly Marth DENVERPOPS Jan 2024 #26
Don't even bother to tell "them" that oil and gas prices are also based in part that they are a function .... Botany Jan 2024 #31
For gawd dam. Sure 3auld6phart Jan 2024 #34
And don't bother telling "them" that under President Biden we are now producing more oil than ever, Botany Jan 2024 #35
Big Grocery has a bag over our heads Charging Triceratops Jan 2024 #5
And they started the 'holdup' back in 2019, but MSM didn't mention inflation until Biden took office Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #15
Ah, but will any of the American media dare to proclaim this to the masses? sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #6
You mean the media corporations who make their money from other corporations? progressoid Jan 2024 #17
No. And the Trump masses don't read anyway. It's Fox and Newsmax to get their daily dose of hatred and lies. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #20
Honestly, that's on Biden and Democratic surrogates to get out there and pound that issue... spudspud Jan 2024 #32
They are our only hope. Ligyron Jan 2024 #49
Yes it's quite odd that I saw prices drop on lets say pet food but now it's suddenly back up again..... GuppyGal Jan 2024 #9
Kick dalton99a Jan 2024 #10
K&R ck4829 Jan 2024 #11
Of course, it takes a BRITISH publication to point this out. Wednesdays Jan 2024 #13
Not from the Complicit Corporate Catamites that are our media ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #18
You have succinctly defined the GOP. dchill Jan 2024 #19
Who is funding Groundwork Collaborative? Mosby Jan 2024 #22
Marxists? George Soros? dpibel Jan 2024 #25
Well Soros is a capitalist so I doubt he's funding them. Mosby Jan 2024 #30
So you're thinking Marxists? n/t dpibel Jan 2024 #37
We don't know because Arabella Advisors doesn't disclose their donors. Mosby Jan 2024 #43
In any case, dpibel Jan 2024 #44
When do profits become "gouging"? Mosby Jan 2024 #45
Surprise, surprise, surprise! Fla Dem Jan 2024 #14
Predatory Capitalism Emile Jan 2024 #16
gee. greedflation. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #21
Only HALF? Wicked Blue Jan 2024 #23
The 2017 billionaire's tax cut caused this Jerry2144 Jan 2024 #27
It also caused an extreme uptick in residential investment ScratchCat Jan 2024 #29
Please don't say it went to stockholders, it didn't Warpy Jan 2024 #28
half? half? what about all of it . half?? my eye. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #38
Well, I've said it and said it! Under our current legal doctrine of 'shareholder primacy,' the ONLY fiduciary PatrickforB Jan 2024 #39
Corporate price gouging drove more than half of the price increases last year. LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #40
Tony Montana said it best... JoseBalow Jan 2024 #41
Voters need to know that the president doesn't set prices IronLionZion Jan 2024 #42
More than that. kwijybo Jan 2024 #46
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Jan 2024 #47
No Fucking Shit. How many millions did that did that investigation cost? Scalded Nun Jan 2024 #48
Oh really? jaxexpat Jan 2024 #50

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
3. It's capitalism in its monopolistic phase where the lack of real competition
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:34 AM
Jan 2024

allows monopolistic rent seeking behavior.

Farmer-Rick

(12,786 posts)
12. Pre-Famine Ireland had many of the same characteristics
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:24 AM
Jan 2024

A rent based society where foreign English men owned all the land and rented it out to the Irish people. In order for the Irish farmer to keep his land (Some families had lived on the land for hundreds of years, never gaining ownership.) He would have to grow crops and raise livestock that the owners collected as rent. But he still had to feed his own family from that same land that he regularly improved and that's where the potatoe came in.

But when the potatoe blight wiped out the method the Irish used to feed themselves, everyone blamed the Irish.

Ireland still transported tons of food to England, in the middle of the Famine, all the while the Irish were dropping like flies due to starvation and then disease set in. Capitalism at its best.

Capitalism is unable to adequately address crisis like this. It is a cumbersome and stagnant economic system that can not adjust to change or respond to emergencies. During floods, weather emergencies and pandemics, it's not hard core capitalist principles we use to help people. Capitalism is not a dynamic and functional economic system.

Justice matters.

(10,079 posts)
33. Exactly, but... a selective "few" get billions upon billions...
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jan 2024

Never enough new billions, and always too much taxes so they buy out elected politicians on all sides or those who want to get elected so why don't "you" try to do like them?

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
36. Unfortunately capitalism is quite resilient.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:52 PM
Jan 2024

Despite the massive crises of the last 150 years, the system adapts. The way it evolves and persists has been the subject of a lot of study by social researchers with a leftist perspective.

I was visiting my brother in Ireland and we went to Roscommon where our grandfather was born. The national famine museum is there at Strokestown Park. It is quite the emotional experience.

Botany

(77,863 posts)
2. Yup and our buddies in big oil and fossil fuel business (gas and oil) have made record profits ...
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:22 AM
Jan 2024

… as the GOP and the media blamed President Biden for what the Americans paid at the
pump for gasoline or @ a McDonald’s for their Egg McMuffin. (McDonald’s made big time
Jack too)

Time to quit playing nice and use the truth like a blow torch on those mother fuckers.

FalloutShelter

(14,628 posts)
4. Exactly right.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:37 AM
Jan 2024

Let’s make the dumbasses put the blame where it should rest.

One of the other things the MAGA Era did was to destroy critical thinking with the help of the MSM.

summer_in_TX

(4,277 posts)
51. Too true.
Sat Jan 20, 2024, 02:47 AM
Jan 2024

Brain connections atrophy when too little stimulation occurs. Being mesmerized by the rants on FOX News or other RW media may just possibly briefly stimulate thinking as well as anger, but pretty soon it only stimulates anger. The shriveled brain connections make it nearly impossible to react to novel problems with anything but rigid, dogmatic pronouncements that don't offer true solutions.

It takes diverse and sometimes contradictory information to stimulate the brain to think things through. One-sided media literally dumbs us down and makes us far less able to solve complex problems.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
7. The cost of transportation fuel affects everything else.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jan 2024

Our oligarchs know what and when to gouge.

Marthe48

(23,443 posts)
24. I heard an old man in Aldi complaining about the price on the cheese
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:32 PM
Jan 2024

ending with 'thanks, Biden' I was about 20' away and laughed out loud, very loud. As I continued walking, I turned around and said, 'How can you be so stupid and buy groceries?' I doubt he heard me. I stared at him a few seconds, and finished my own shopping.

I try not to get confrontational in a store, but as far as I'm concerned, the rwnj are causing inflation to make President Biden look bad. They did the same thing to President Carter in the 1970s. I know who is behind the high prices and they aren't fooling me.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
26. Exactly Marth
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:48 PM
Jan 2024

Almost all fortune 500 corporations are reporting RECORD profits. The Corporations are making a ton of money to pay humongous bonuses to executives, to pass along as dividends and stock buybacks for shareholder stock prices.

AND telling the 70 Million Trump Humpers that it is all Biden's fault......two birds with one stone..............

Botany

(77,863 posts)
31. Don't even bother to tell "them" that oil and gas prices are also based in part that they are a function ....
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:08 PM
Jan 2024

…. of publicly traded commodities such as oil and gas futures along with the large oil companies
and our buddies such as the people from the House of Saud who see their job as to jack up gas
prices so people will be mad @ President Biden for the price of gas.

I

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
34. For gawd dam. Sure
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jan 2024

Big oil , is the worst of the lot. Sucking up and draining, Up what is left underground. The manufacturing billions of plastic bags which be comes so much garbage.piss on it. End of rant.

Botany

(77,863 posts)
35. And don't bother telling "them" that under President Biden we are now producing more oil than ever,
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:47 PM
Jan 2024

but the GOP, the fossil fuel companies, the super rich (including our good friend MBS of Saudi Arabia),
MAGA/Christo Fascists, and media cancers such as Fox are not bothered by the truth. They see
disinformation (much from Russia), gerrymandering, and court packing as their key to keeping power.

Btw Joe Biden is the best President of my lifetime and he has hired the best cabinet and other people
to work with him and the American people too.

We need to use the truth like a blow torch on those mother fuckers and have a blue tsunami in 2024.

Sorry to

Attilatheblond

(9,236 posts)
15. And they started the 'holdup' back in 2019, but MSM didn't mention inflation until Biden took office
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:43 AM
Jan 2024

Also, is anybody but me thinking the surging rounds of layoffs by big, highly profitable corporations is actually about supporting GOP candidates who won't raise their taxes? Me thinks corporations have found a way to make campaign contributions to bad candidates without showing up on required paperwork tracking donors.

Rampaging Capitalists really don't want Biden to be re-elected, and they will throw a good economy in the crapper to get their wish and more tax cuts.

Lonestarblue

(13,561 posts)
20. No. And the Trump masses don't read anyway. It's Fox and Newsmax to get their daily dose of hatred and lies.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:03 PM
Jan 2024

spudspud

(670 posts)
32. Honestly, that's on Biden and Democratic surrogates to get out there and pound that issue...
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:08 PM
Jan 2024

on the podium and whenever they're guests on a program. Same way Repubs all have talking points that they always get in, the Dems need to be more disciplined in getting out these kinds of kitchen table issues and truth bombs. We shouldn't rely on MSM to carry the message for us--Biden and surrogates need to jam it in their faces when interviewed/guests on shows.

Ligyron

(8,009 posts)
49. They are our only hope.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 07:44 PM
Jan 2024

Ray gun would get Air Time just to tell people to demand their congress people bow to his wishes. Biden could surely do the same to lay a little truth on the incandescently gaslit American people and as has been mentioned, some Democratic talking points need to make their way into people’s consciousness via our extremely talented Representatives across the board. It’s corny and hardly intellectually stimulating I know, but apparently it works so we/they may need to suck it up and appeal to the lowest common denominator for a change. Message discipline is what is called for here.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
9. Yes it's quite odd that I saw prices drop on lets say pet food but now it's suddenly back up again.....
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:06 AM
Jan 2024

Hmmmm fucking corporate scum fleecing us for all we have

Wednesdays

(23,129 posts)
13. Of course, it takes a BRITISH publication to point this out.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:36 AM
Jan 2024


Betcha you won't hear this very much on our own M$M.

dpibel

(4,012 posts)
25. Marxists? George Soros?
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:40 PM
Jan 2024
The Groundwork Collaborative is a left-of-center activist group with a particular focus on economic issues. It is a fiscally-sponsored project of the New Venture Fund, a 501(c)(3) arm of the Arabella Advisors “dark money” network of liberal pass-through funding organizations. 1 The organization was launched in 2018 to promote left-wing economic policies. 2


https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/groundwork-collaborative/

dpibel

(4,012 posts)
44. In any case,
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 04:21 PM
Jan 2024

very suspicious.

Am I correct in understanding that to be your point?

Do you object to ascribing part of inflation to gouging?

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
45. When do profits become "gouging"?
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jan 2024

I don't know.

As someone who has spend decades in retail though, I'm glad people are finally noticing manufacturer pricing strategies. Companies like P&G, Kelloggs, General Mills, Kraft, Nestlé, Tyson etc have been overcharging since forever, because they know the retailer will take the blame. OTC and HABA manufacturers are even worse.

We all just got screwed by the egg manufacturers, only retailers will recover some of the excess profits.

Fla Dem

(27,772 posts)
14. Surprise, surprise, surprise!
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 11:43 AM
Jan 2024

When will we see this as a top headline on the news shows?

We won't because those media companies are just as culpable.

AllaN01Bear

(29,803 posts)
21. gee. greedflation.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jan 2024

highly overstated prices . super hyper markets for a very long time, and so fourth cant be sustainable .

Jerry2144

(3,318 posts)
27. The 2017 billionaire's tax cut caused this
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:51 PM
Jan 2024

It opened the door for excessive profit taking. Tax cuts for corporations are the primary cause.

There is no reason a civil society should have billionaires. How much money is enough?

ScratchCat

(2,753 posts)
29. It also caused an extreme uptick in residential investment
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:56 PM
Jan 2024

This is one of the big factors of a shortage of homes available to purchase as wealthy investment groups bought them all up with 3% interest rate loans. No media will talk about this. Only a brief mention here and there.

Warpy

(114,671 posts)
28. Please don't say it went to stockholders, it didn't
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:54 PM
Jan 2024

There were bonuses, executive pay raises, and stock buybacks, the latter the most important, Shareholders are typically the last on the list these days, the pirates at the top are robbing us all.

PatrickforB

(15,524 posts)
39. Well, I've said it and said it! Under our current legal doctrine of 'shareholder primacy,' the ONLY fiduciary
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 03:22 PM
Jan 2024

responsibility of the C-Suite parasites in any publicly traded company is to generate profits for shareholders. That is IT.

Want to change that? Then we need to FORCE and then ENFORCE a small change to the rules of corporate governance here in the United States.

We need to impose a stakeholder approach to corporate governance whereby the interests of truth (in publicly traded media), the environment, workers and consumers are held to have equal weight with shareholder profits. Also, CEO and other C-Suite 'earnings' needs to be capped. It is obscene that these parasites who supposedly add so much 'value' make over 300X what their average worker makes in some cases. Just an offense against common decency.

Do this and we solve a plethora of problems.

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,047 posts)
40. Corporate price gouging drove more than half of the price increases last year.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 03:26 PM
Jan 2024

President Biden's team has been successful in fixing the supply side issues that gave rise to inflation but the Biden team cannot deal with the corporate greed factor other than getting the word out



IronLionZion

(51,551 posts)
42. Voters need to know that the president doesn't set prices
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 03:40 PM
Jan 2024

it's not like Biden is forcing these companies to make record profits. People are buying stuff. So companies get away with jacking up prices. Corporate consolidation has greatly reduced competition for lots of consumer goods, especially food products and household staples.

But it's easier to blame migrants for stealing low paying farming and food preparation jobs that nobody else wants. Biden is causing the labor shortage too somehow.

One of the dumbest arguments I saw online was: so many foreign born workers have been stealing so many jobs for so long, that it causes Americans to not want to work anymore, which causes the labor shortage.

kwijybo

(268 posts)
46. More than that.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 06:11 PM
Jan 2024

It's way more than half, IMO. Check the prices of bananas. They have the same pipeline, the same oil costs, increase in shipping, and so on. Yet, the prices haven't really changed, pre-COVID to now.

Shipping costs are driving it?
Oil costs are driving it?
Labor costs are driving it?

Then why isn't it affecting bananas in a similar fashion?

Just my weird look at econ.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
50. Oh really?
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:04 PM
Jan 2024

I've been schooled here that inflation is always a natural economic response to scarcity.

The crooks, big and small, were always in on the gift under the cover of covid.

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