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surfered

(13,455 posts)
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 11:34 AM Jan 2024

Frank Luntz decrying negativity on MSNBC...

…this morning made me spit out my coffee. This is the same guy who advised Republicans in the 90s to “talk like Newt” by describing Democrats with terms like “corrupt,” “devour,” “greed,” “hypocrisy,” “liberal,” “sick,” and “traitors.”

But now he’s against negativity!

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Frank Luntz decrying negativity on MSNBC... (Original Post) surfered Jan 2024 OP
.......................... JohnSJ Jan 2024 #1
Poor Frank Roy Rolling Jan 2024 #16
+++ JohnSJ Jan 2024 #17
IMO, one of the biggest mistakes our side made was not hiring George Lakoff to counter Luntz & his BS. CrispyQ Jan 2024 #2
Remember George Lakoff's "Truth Sandwich"? State the Obvious Jan 2024 #12
Awwwww poor baby Frankie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2024 #3
He's also the one that decided the Democratic Party lisa58 Jan 2024 #4
I hate that fuck Shellback Squid Jan 2024 #5
is this a sign his oligarch masters are upset that MSNBC is covering the Chevron Doctrine story? ariadne0614 Jan 2024 #6
F**k him nt drmeow Jan 2024 #7
Bite me, Frank. I got some negative words for you, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #8
I say we luntz him! dchill Jan 2024 #9
I was watching JustAnotherGen Jan 2024 #10
Couldn't believe they actually had him on. shrike3 Jan 2024 #11
Frank Luntz is a slimy RW propagandist, the Republican equivalent of Joseph Goebbels. sop Jan 2024 #19
I wanted to strangle him at that point. dmr Jan 2024 #21
This guy was probably beaten up every PCIntern Jan 2024 #13
Boo hoo claudette Jan 2024 #14
As the wind blows, so goes the politician. republianmushroom Jan 2024 #15
Irony is.... Peachhead22 Jan 2024 #18
If you and your party are hurt by the truth about what you guys do and say then the fault lies with... Botany Jan 2024 #20
Who cares what Luntz thinks? LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #22

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
2. IMO, one of the biggest mistakes our side made was not hiring George Lakoff to counter Luntz & his BS.
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 11:41 AM
Jan 2024

Our leaders should have read & followed Lakoff's advice in Don't Think of an Elephant & Moral Politics: How Liberals & Conservatives Think. We could still benefit from it.

State the Obvious

(855 posts)
12. Remember George Lakoff's "Truth Sandwich"?
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 12:28 PM
Jan 2024

.Last week, Lawrence O'Donnell described Lakoff's "truth sandwich]" on his show. It was the perfect example to make his point.

"Truth" is sandwiched between lies and deception on the top,... and lies and deceptions on the bottom. (paraphrase)

lisa58

(5,809 posts)
4. He's also the one that decided the Democratic Party
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 11:43 AM
Jan 2024

should be called the ‘Democrat’ Party. Admission of guilt would go a long way…

ariadne0614

(2,174 posts)
6. is this a sign his oligarch masters are upset that MSNBC is covering the Chevron Doctrine story?
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 11:51 AM
Jan 2024

Heaven forbid that the electorate be informed about the destruction of the administrative state.

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
8. Bite me, Frank. I got some negative words for you,
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 11:52 AM
Jan 2024

starting with "asshole." For your party of assholes, let's start with "fascist," "Nazi," and "cult." And for your Fearless Leader, how about "criminal," "mob boss," "soulless scumbag" and "syphilitic maniac." I have lots more.

JustAnotherGen

(38,050 posts)
10. I was watching
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 12:09 PM
Jan 2024

Thank you for starting this op. Anything the Luntz says - do the opposite.

Our values and platform are NOT negativity.

It's a choice between two visions of America this year:

Democracy as we know it.

Or.


The end of our experiment.

And I want every single Democratic Party member to lean into it this year.

Look - just a tiny Borough Council member elected in November here. In our county - Moms for Libertines have taken over our school boards.

I ran on sidewalks and our Borough Library. And you know what?

I won. I leaned into the 1st Amendment and played into our two opponents silence about what was happening at our school board. And now - I'm the Library Liaison.

Ignore Luntz. He's a genuine son of a biscuit eater and has zero value to the Democratic Party.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
11. Couldn't believe they actually had him on.
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 12:10 PM
Jan 2024

And called him a "friend of the show."

He sat there, with a straight face, and said how great it would be if a significant part of the electorate voted third party. It would cure all that ails us.

sop

(18,605 posts)
19. Frank Luntz is a slimy RW propagandist, the Republican equivalent of Joseph Goebbels.
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jan 2024

Luntz has been on MSNBC a few times; they're apparently trying to normalize his lies and turn him into a regular contributor. I hope the audience reacts to Luntz like they did when Hugh Hewitt and other RW fabulists were brought in by MSNBC ownership to provide "balance."

PCIntern

(28,363 posts)
13. This guy was probably beaten up every
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 12:31 PM
Jan 2024

day in junior high and he’s punishing America for his entire adult life.

Botany

(77,315 posts)
20. If you and your party are hurt by the truth about what you guys do and say then the fault lies with...
Sun Jan 21, 2024, 02:27 PM
Jan 2024

… with you not with the media reporting it. Luntz is worried about losing control of the
narrative and the ability to slant issues in a way that keeps a % of Americans voting
against their own best interests.

As noted up thread “democrat party” was from Frank. Phuck him.

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