Irony is Haley would be harder for Biden to beat

[liberalmediaaddict]

The irony about the 2024 election is, at least according to polls, it would be more difficult for President Biden to defeat any Republican nominee other than Trump.

However the thought of Trump being the Republican nominee and therefore within a coin flip of winning back the White House is so terrifying I honestly wish Republicans would nominate anyone but him.

With the electoral college Biden could win the popular vote by 10 million and still "lose" to Trump. Imagine the psychological effect that will have on our country and our allies.

They already don't fully understand how in the "greatest democracy on earth" Trump became President in 2016 despite Hillary receiving nearly 3 million more votes. And 4 years later how he was acquitted by the Senate for inciting an insurrection despite losing the vote 57 to 42.

Even if Biden had a 60% approval rating I'd still be nervous about Trump possibly winning.

This is going to be a tough general election. Not because a majority of Americans are desperate to re-elect Donald Trump. But because with the unfair electoral college, Republicans control of the House and MAGA friendly judges the will of the people could easily be overturned. Which is why Trump can't stop smiling like a cheshire cat lately. He knows the entire system is rigged in his favor.

[leftieNanner]

1. Agree. Haley would be a tough matchup

We must win back the House so we are in charge on January 6.

[RockRaven]

2. That's not irony YET. She has the Koch network/money, and TFG isn't the

nominee until the convention happens. He could stroke out yelling at the TV at any moment.

At this point in time it is more "danger" than "irony."

[liberalmediaaddict]

7. Doesn't seem like her heart is in it

She could easily mount a strong campaign if she'd actually go after Trump directly and present herself as the last chance for never-Trump Republicans to block him from becoming the party's nominee.

The Kochs could easily keep her campaign funded until super tuesday.

I'd be surprised if Haley officially suspends her campaign before then. Her donors probably want her to stay in as a backup to Trump.

He could stroke out. Or his cognitive decline may become so apparent to voters in the coming months that his poll numbers take a nosedive.

[elleng]

3. ' according to polls'

[ecstatic]

4. she doesn't have a shot in hell

Her statements over the past few weeks will guarantee that she is unelectable because she will get very little if any of the black vote.

Plus, there's still too much sexism and racism for maga to get on board. They are not enthusiastic about her. It would be a hold the nose type vote, if anything.

[WarGamer]

5. Disagree... Haley would never get the Trump base after their bad blood...

Biden would win 40 States.

[Silent3]

10. Indeed. Even if Haley was the nominee because...

...Trump keeled over from a heart attack, I don't think the rabid Trump base would turn out for Haley the way they'd turn out for Trump.

Maybe Haley could win over some independents, more than Trump could, but I don't think that would make up for the disappointed, angry base. Those that weren't merely unenthusiastic about Haley might be conspiracy-addled into thinking Haley was in on assassinating Trump, never being willing to believe he'd died naturally.

Of course if Haley were the nominee, and Trump were alive yet somehow lost the primary to Haley, Trump would run as an independent, go total scorched earth, and steal far more votes from Haley than from Biden.

[Silent Type]

6. A Haley admin won't be as bad as trump, but it will be bad. We gotta win.

[LenaBaby61]

9. Nimrata's administration would be just as bad and worse ....

For women seeking abortions past 15 weeks even if their lives are in danger, and she wants people working well past 65 to even sniff collecting their social security. Plus, she'd pardon that piece of shit tRump.

Nimarata the dummy is NO better than her man tRump.

[LenaBaby61]

8. Nimarata the snake is anti-abortion ....

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That ass is not hard to beat. Look at how well being a murderous, pro-birth, let's arrest a woman who saved her life by dealing with an ectopic pregnancy party is working for the GQP US Taliban, pro Putin, Fascist, tRaitor party, even in RED states. Plus, she wants people working into their 70's or to DIE before they can collect retirement/social security.

Nikki Haley says America's retirement age is 'way too low' and needs to be increased, while also calling on cognitive tests for politicians over 75.

Nikki Haley, a Republican presidential candidate, said she wants to up the full retirement age.

She proposed increasing the full retirement age for "people like my kids in their twenties."

The idea is wildly unpopular, according to polling.

GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley said she thinks the US' retirement age is "way too low" and needs to be increased.

In an interview with Bloomberg Markets on Thursday a day after she attended the first GOP presidential debate in Milwaukee, Haley said the country should increase the retirement age in an attempt to address possible Social Security and Medicare insolvency.

"The way we deal with it," Haley said, "is we don't touch anyone's retirement or anyone who's been promised in, but we go to people like my kids in their twenties when they're coming into the system, and we say the rules have changed."

Asked by Joe Mathieu what is the "right age" she'd propose, Haley didn't have an exact answer but said that "65 is way too low" and needs to be increased in relation to the average US lifespan. While she mentioned 65 as too low, Congress upped the full retirement age in 1983 to 67 years old for anyone born in 1960 or later.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nikki-haley-raise-us-retirement-age-2023-8

[spooky3]

13. I wonder if she's considered

That if the normal retirement age is moved up much past age 67, we would see a lot of people 67+ applying for disability benefits based on physical problems that tend to increase with age, eg, arthritis. So any savings would have to be offset by that.

[mwb970]

11. What are the odds that trump will live to see the 2024 election?

I mean from an actuary viewpoint. He's clearly not well. If he were a relative that I cared about I would be making arrangements by now. As it is I hope he keels over today.

[LeftInTX]

12. He will live. The good die young. He has no soul. Everyone has been saying he was gonna die anyday now since 2015.

It hasn't happened. He's only 77. He'll probably live to be 107.

[spooky3]

14. But he's not a healthy 77. Nt

[LeftInTX]

16. Everyone has been saying this since 2015. Wake me up when he dies

[spooky3]

18. Facts are facts. Nt

[mwb970]

19. I'm still waiting for fracking CHENEY to pass.

Evil has remarkable staying power.

[betsuni]

15. No way, Haley is establishment. Trump voters are anti-establishment extremists.

Some would vote for her, but wouldn't be "inspired."

[Emile]

17. She still admits to being unabashedly anti choice.

I can't see that helping her.

[Vinca]

20. Not really because the MAGAS wouldn't vote for her in a million years.

The GOP is in a lose-lose situation. The few remaining sane ones won't vote for Trump and the crazy ones won't vote for Haley.

[tanyev]

21. ...if Trump's MAGA cult showed up and voted for her.

But if she poses any threat to his nomination, Trump will do everything he can to destroy her and his cult will obediently follow.

[tinrobot]

22. Except any nominee replacing Trump would be opposed by Trump

He'd most likely try to tear the GOP candidate down and tell his supporters to stay home.

[bigtree]

23. the reality is that she'll never be the republican nominee

...and that many of her voters will move to Biden rather than vote for Trump.

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