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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Israeli Quotes That the Press Got Wrong
I highly, highly recommend reading this entire article. (Just put it in "reader view" in your browser). Why? Because every single quote highlighted by the author - who is no friend of Netanyahu or Likud - will be very, very familiar. You will have seen all of them spread breathlessly, incorrectly, and triumphantly by anti-Israel activists.
You will have seen them here, multiple times, brought up repeatedly - and continuing to this day - without correction.
Something to keep in mind, that primary sources are best. The media, social media, and a very strong anti-Israel operation make very sure the narrative is distorted to their liking, and they will not be doing the correcting for you. By the time you figure out what you're being told is wrong, they are long gone onto the next outrage that maybe isn't as outrageous as is being presented dishonestly to you.
Since I can do only four paragraphs. But seriously. Read the whole damn thing and admire just how much fuckery is spread around willfully.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/01/israel-south-africa-genocide-case-fake-quotes/677198/
(Non-paywall link, thanks Scipan) https://web.archive.org/web/20240122012035/https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/01/israel-south-africa-genocide-case-fake-quotes/677198/
Politicians and lawyers are not always known for their probity, but journalists have fact-checkers. How did an error this substantial get missed so many times in so many places? One New York Times article that cited Gallants mangled misquote sourced the words to an op-ed in another outlet, which sourced them to an X post that featured an embedded TikTok video. But the cascade of media failures appears to have begun with a 42-second video excerpt of Gallants talk that was uploaded by Bloomberg with incomplete English subtitles. The clip, since viewed more than half a million times, simply skips over There will be no Hamas in its translation. (Bloomberg did not return a request for comment at press time.)
Unfortunately, this concatenation of errors is part of a pattern. As someone who has covered Israeli extremism for years and written about the hard rights push to ethnically cleanse Gaza and resettle it, I have been carefully tracking the rise of such dangerous ideas for more than a decade. In this perilous wartime environment, it is essential to know who is saying what, and whether they have the authority to act on it. But while far too many right-wing members of Israels Parliament have expressed borderline or straightforwardly genocidal sentiments during the Gaza conflict, such statements attributed to the three people making Israels actual military decisions, the voting members of its war cabinetGallant, Netanyahu, and the former opposition lawmaker Benny Gantzrepeatedly turn out to be mistaken or misrepresented.
Take the claim, also cited by NPRs Fadel among others, that Gallant referred to Gazans as human animals. The defense minister has used this harsh language several times, and its reasonable to wonder whom hes referring to. But as can be seen from the same Bloomberg video, Gallant uses this phrase to talk about Hamas, telling soldiers who fought off Hamas on the devastated Gaza border: You have seen what we are fighting against. We are fighting against human animals. This is the ISIS of Gaza. (Hamass atrocities on October 7 have been likened to acts of the Islamic State by both Israeli and American officials, including President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken.) One can certainly take issue with Gallants languagefor one thing, a nonhuman animal never executed a grandmother in her home and then uploaded the snuff film to her Facebook pagebut not with the fact that the defense ministers words referred specifically to Hamas.
Behind the Aegis
(56,216 posts)No, not really. This is just another example of the hate affair so many have with Israel. This bigotry, regionalism, is actually more common in the media than any form of anti-Semitism, which is more limited (for now) to the extremists of both sides. But, it is clear that poison is seeping into the mainstream, but at least, for now, it is still getting push back. Perhaps not for long.
ETA: To quote Marge Simpson in an episode of "The Simpsons" (Kiss Kiss, Bang Bangalore [S17E17]); "This is a book about management and Lee Iacocca says "This book is DOT DOT DOT necessary.""
Sympthsical
(11,114 posts)About the artificial island. Which, apparently, people aren't sure what was said about it. It's a clusterflup of uncertain timelines, plans, and quotations.
But they're going to spread it with a headline!
So much credibility turned to ash. And for what?
Who is this for at this point?
Arazi
(8,887 posts)In 2010!
(Lets turn it into a BREAKING NEWS story)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-still-opposes-same-sex-marriage/
These arent good faith dialogues anymore. A damn shame
A message to those alerting on this (since Im getting alerted now on almost anything I post related to Israel or Hamas war), Im not derogating on Obama. Im making a point about bringing old and outdated news here and presenting it as breaking
scipan
(3,106 posts)Sympthsical
(11,114 posts)I got in the habit of using Reader View on Firefox to read articles (usually F9 in a browser).
Cha
(320,616 posts)TY!
mcar
(46,366 posts)This is an important topic. Shame on MSM for this malpractice.
betsuni
(29,296 posts)
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