Texans flock to social media to demand the state 'secede' after losing at Supreme Court

[JohnSJ]

"Texas lost another case at the U.S. Supreme Court against President Joe Biden's administration.

In this case, the federal government is fighting the state's decision to put razor wire on the border that blocks U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers from being able to access migrants. The incident unfolded after three migrants died in the river between the U.S. and Mexico. The Border Patrol was prevented from being able to save the family, which included two children.

On Monday, the High Court ruled that the federal government decides border issues and not Texas. Now, residents are demanding that they be allowed to leave the United States altogether."

https://www.rawstory.com/texas-secede-border-ruling/

Let's see, Texas receives 68.2 BILLION dollars from the federal government, and when the next hurricane or national disaster happens, do they understand that FEMA is a FEDERAL PROGRAM?

[Ligyron]

1. Oh please ....

Better order out those Army bases to start.

[tinymontgomery]

16. We need to start moving service members to other states

We need to start moving service members to other states so if they ever do try to leave we won't
have as many members to transfer.

[thomski64]

32. ..the issue of secession was settled..

..by President Lincoln. However
expulsion has not been on the table before. Of course military installations would remain US territory. (think Guantanamo Bay)
Another idea, return The Repulic to Mexico. We could make amends for that imperialist land grab in 1846.

[tinymontgomery]

40. True, but if you start transferring members and equipment

True, but if you start transferring members and equipment your reducing their income and realize that there is more at issue
then making threats to succession. Years ago when I was in the service,23years, I would never go to TX. I stayed on ships before
I would go down there. If you start moving members and equipment out at a slow pace it will not be noticed till they realize what is going on.

[HAB911]

65. unfortunately that would let the positive economic impact remain in the state

they must be strangled economically

[Srkdqltr]

2. No social security

[Captain Zero]

8. No interstate highway money

And pull all the federal money from their airports.

[MurrayDelph]

22. And NASA

and all the military bases.

And we can move the Border Patrol to what is currently the state line.

[mercuryblues]

41. No money for schools

From head start to post grad school.

No NFL

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

3. Give it back to Mexico

[DBoon]

26. What did Mexico do to deserve such a fate?

[quaint]

61. Trade it for Baja California.

[lees1975]

4. Let 'em go.

They'd survive for 5 minutes.

[Demovictory9]

37. Yep. Bye Texas. But leave NASA

[pwb]

5. Pukes really don't want to fix the border

You just want all the money. States you send people to on buses should get that money. Move all that border administration costs to other states. Fuck you right back Texas if that is how you feel. Join Mexico.
Your Governor can't even keep the lights on imagine how you would be on your own? If Texas doesn't turn blue this next election it never will. Come on Texas silence these voices of division for good. Clean out the red.

[Takket]

6. now that SCOTUS has settled this, the Texans that blocked the Feds should be charged

Obstruction of justice/interfering with Federal law enforcement sounds like a good place to start.

[former9thward]

21. SC did not settle this.

All they did was rule on an emergency motion. They did not rule on the merits of the case. That will come up through the court system and the SC may rule on the actual case in the future.

[Silent3]

44. "SC may rule on the actual case in the future"... in the fullness of time

So, whaddya think? The time span between openly defying a court order on something like this, and actual punishment for doing so?

Four years? Seven years? Never?

[bluestarone]

52. Well, the way i look at this is

If TFG wins the election, THIS SC will rule for Texas. Our whole system will turn completely around! That's exactly why no definite ruling yet.

[Picaro]

7. Lot of Texans are very happy about this...

Having said that, let me point out that Abbot is deliberately sowing the seeds of a 2nd Civil War.

He is not alone. There really is a vast right wing conspiracy. There has been for a long, long time.

[EndlessWire]

29. What if they gave a war and nobody came?

I agree with up thread. Start to transfer facilities out of Texas. As soon as all their revenue sources and Federal programs dry up, they'll scream to come back. After all, nothing the Dallas Cowboys do will mean a thing!

I'm sick of this crap. Charge Abbot with insurrection, obstruction of justice, and anything else that comes up. As far as I can see, he's got three deaths on his head. How does he sleep at night?

Open the bidding process for the new locations to move the infrastructure. See if that sobers them up.

[In It to Win It]

9. They can always move

[walkingman]

38. Not that easy. In my case I am old and caring for a 90+ MIL . I would much

prefer that we rid ourselves of this folks. Texas was not like this until about 30 years ago. Like many Bible Belt states they were victim of the "moral majority scam".

Having said that it is very frustrating to spend you golden years in such a backwards political environment.

First step is to get rid of Ted Cruz in 2024 and I think more will follow.

[TexasDem69]

10. I'm not sure I'd refer to 3 Texans as a "flock"

Since there are about 30 million Texans. But whatever floats the drama boat I guess. And by the way, California receives almost twice the amount of federal aid that Texas does.

[JohnSJ]

12. That was the article title. Second I don't believe California believes they

have the final say in border disputes over the federal government.

Obviously the elected Governor of Texas does

[TexasDem69]

13. The elected governor of Texas could be wrong

He’s often wrong. In fact, Abbott is rarely right. But the article is still a lot of drama-mongering. There’s secessionists in every state. Nobody takes them seriously. You shouldn’t either.

[JohnSJ]

14. I don't, but I believe Rick Perry made the same dumb assed suggestion

While there are no doubt secessionists in every state, I suspect Texas has a good share of them.

I remember when Texas was blue, and Ann Richards was Governor

I have no idea how Texas could have moved so far right

[TexasDem69]

15. Of course Texas has a good share

There are 30 million Texans. I’m sure more than a handful are secessionists.

No idea why Texas moved right. You can ask the same of Ohio or Florida, or why California moved left.

[JohnSJ]

17. Actually California is more of an independent state than people like to

admit. Remember we had Reagan as our Governor who did some pretty unsavory things in our state, not the least to close a lot of mental health facilities which forced a good number out in the streets.

[DBoon]

28. California gets back less than what it pays in, unlike Texas

And the difference is huge

Texas:

Total balance of payments: $36.2 billion
Per capita balance of payments: $1,280

California:

Total balance of payments: -$13.7 billion
Per capita balance of payments: -$348

https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-taxes-federal-services-difference-by-state-2019-1#california-5

In effect, California subsidizes Texas and other red states

[Johonny]

55. California state taxes have to make up the balance

Our taxes would be lower if we got our fair share back. But we are so under represented, we will always be screwed. 2 senators is a fucking crimes.

[EndlessWire]

33. But we're not screaming

about taking down razor wire from the middle of a river, which we never put up to begin with. We are not sniffling and crying about losing. We are not trying to take our ball and run home. We're not having standoffs with the Border Patrol. We're not screaming to secede like spoiled brats.

Just accept it. The Cowboys lost. There's always next year in the LFA. Go for it.

[ProfessorGAC]

64. Not Quite Fair

While I agree California gets nearly twice the dollars as does Texas, they contribute 75% more in taxes.
Not quite at parity, but nothing like a blanket "twice as much"

[CTyankee]

11. I am a thiird generation Texan who is thrilled not to ever have to set foot in that place again.

[LeftInTX]

20. Well those advocating are in California and Florida..LOL

[CTyankee]

43. I'm 84 and I'm not going anywhere. My husband is from Wisconsin and wonders what the fuss is about with cold

weather in CT.

We have lovely assisted living places right nearby, for when we can't handle our house any more.

[pecosbob]

48. My great-great grandfather moved to Archer County the 1870s.

In 1980 I still had twenty family members living in Texas. Today there are none.

[CTyankee]

49. Actually, I have a granddaughter who moved to Austin from her home in the Boston suburbs (job relocation)...but

here's the thing: she has the means to leave in case she needs to. She complains that she can't find a good gynecologist because the good ones have all moved, but she can fly to her parents home in the Boston suburbs and get great gyn care. A woman's health care should not be determined by how she can scramble to get the health care she needs. Flying to Boston takes time and effort, even if the money is not a problem. This puts her at a disadvantage immediately. It's ridiculous.

[pecosbob]

50. I have friends in the military that have turned down postings in Texas in recent years.

The rampant demagoguery has really complicated issues such as military readiness and immigration enforcement. Conservative pols and radio personalities have been building this hate movement for a long time. How do you de-1984 all these folks? Cruelty seems to be their central political message. Honestly, the nation will be better off when we boomers exit stage left and take our hate and prejudice with us...but is isn't just us boomers. The next-gen haters are pretty rabid.

[CTyankee]

56. I think of my Uncle Tim, who served in the Texas legislature and was a local judge in Brownwood. In his day, the big

fight was over building highways to facilitate travel/commerce in the state. He knew it was the future for Texas.

I remember road trips with my family when I was a kid. Going over the state highway in Texas to Oklahoma was a stark reminder of what having a modern highway system can mean to a state's economic fortunes. Oklahoma roads were a joke.

then the Interstate Highway System was built....

[blogslug]

18. Secession is the Stadium Wave of Texas Republicans

A least once a year, the big-mad bigots of the bullshit party whoop out calls to secede as if they were singing rounds in church choir. If they didn't, we'd be calling the authorities to conduct a wellness check on them.

[TwilightZone]

23. I live in Texas and I hear more about secession here than locally.

On DU, it's a constant topic of conversation. Seemingly, a lot of people have no idea that Texas can't secede.

In Texas, it's just the same 20% who've been bleating about secession since 1869. They bleat, they die, they get replaced. The overall % hardly ever changes. We generally just ignore them.

[DFW]

36. I don't get back much, but I was just there last week.

And you're right. I hear the subject brought up here constantly, where I have never heard it mentioned in Texas.

[LeftInTX]

19. Let me see: One guy is in California, the other guy is in Florida - Clickbait

Raw Story doesn't even check their sources.

[UTUSN]

24. Wait a minit - "Texans flock" means a percentage of wingnuts

[TwilightZone]

25. More nonsense from Raw Story.

Three people are a "flock" and it appears that two of the three aren't even Texans.

I have no idea why anyone uses RS as a source for anything. They're basically a sensationalist tabloid.

[LeftInTX]

45. They're bad!

[Conjuay]

60. It's sad.

I find I get more accurate information about what is going on from “The Guardian” than from any American source.

[gopiscrap]

27. please do so

fuck texas that would be 38-39 electoral votes we wouldn't have to worry about

[elleng]

30. BYE!

[Permanut]

31. Joe Biden got over 5 million votes in Texas..

let's not throw the whole state in the dumpster.

[Paladin]

46. Now, now. Mustn't get in the way of DU Texas hatred. (nt)

[Ziggysmom]

34. My husband is not feeling well, and is over tired. After reading this he suggested we give Texas back

to Mexico, and see how these Texas repugs like that. He's so funny sometimes.

[CanonRay]

35. They went broke the first time

and would again.

[moniss]

39. A simple reason never discussed

by all the talking heads in all of this is that the Federal government has control so that you have uniformity of regulations. If you didn't have uniformity and each state was able to make it's own rules and enforcement you would have an uncontrollable hodgepodge from state to state. The concept of uniformity is also found in other areas like defense, commerce, federal taxation, maritime law, aviation etc.

Can you imagine the chaos in the Gulf of Mexico if Texas and Florida decided to have all their own maritime laws and their own Navies/Coast Guard? Because the simple and quick answer shoots down all of the MAGA crap about taking things into their own hands is precisely the reason the media doesn't bother with it. It would cut down on their ability to have segments with people hollering at each other. Displaying tension, anger and disputes gets eyeballs on the program and that means ratings and bigger dollars for ad revenue.

[DemocraticPatriot]

42. "REMEMBER THE ALAMO!" As I 'remember',

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the Texans LOST that battle, with NO adult male survivors!


If they take on the Federal Government,
I hope the results will be much the same....

Hell, most of them can't even spell "secede"---

"WE SHOULD SUCCEED FROM THE UNION!" LMAO

[Buns_of_Fire]

47. Well, if at first you don't secede...

It's Tuesday, so it must be time for the weekly rant by some nutbagger.

Or maybe these are folks trying to goad the spiritual descendants of the Alamo into doing something rash? (Alamo 1.0 didn't work out all that well, as I recall.)

[no_hypocrisy]

51. Insurrection ! !

[Jarqui]

53. Electoral college math

Gets really tricky if the GOP doesn’t have Texas

[AllaN01Bear]

54. not only that but all the federal installations there that drive the economy.

[grumpyduck]

57. "Texans flock to social media"

My first question is, exactly how many Texans flocked to social media?

[krawhitham]

58. So, Win Win

[limbicnuminousity]

59. Seasonal changes...

Between losing the power grid in winter and catastrophic hurricanes, a Texas secession would quickly begin to look like the Donner party.

[republianmushroom]

62. Oh, another wall to be built, but this time I would support it.

[LiberalFighter]

63. Nobody is stopping them from moving to another country.

[lame54]

66. Then we can make Puerto Rico a state and not have to change the flags

[Renew Deal]

67. Sell Texas to Mexico

[xmas74]

68. We talk about moving military,shutting down

Facilities,etc as punishment.

I wonder if their banks FDIC insurance could just be removed since they plan to secede? With no insurance the banks would quickly fail and there would be a depression style rush. The same screaming to secede would be the same begging to come back.

And for those who say they have oil they can sell is it with an actual business in Texas or somewhere in the US? Most countries wouldn't dare buy from Texas if they thought it would bring about our wrath.

I don't think it would be hard to strike back. I just feel bad for the millions who keep their heads down and try to survive instead of the loud blowhards we always follow.