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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat if everyone on Earth was white, Christian, and spoke English?
Would that be "The Perfect World?"
Would that end all wars?
Would that unite humanity?
Not likely. There would still be those who desire power over others. There would still be those who desire to be worshiped. There would still be those who want it all. And once they have it all, they would want more.
Color, religion, nationality, and so many other differences are useful and convenient divisions for such people. And if those divisions didn't exist, they'd make up others. What others? Well, try things like emotional temperament, height, weight, eye color, physical build, -- Hell, the differences between us are endless. And are fodder for those who want to own us.
Our differences, any differences, make it easier for would-be tyrants to turn people against each other. It makes it easier for them to apply the tools of fear and hatred. It makes it easier for them to justify their "leadership" of the masses.
It's really no deeper than that. Yet, the vast majority of human beings on this planet don't get it and never have. It's why we live in a blood-soaked world. Our technology advances. But our sense of humanity is barely out of the caves. It's why tyrants have existed throughout history and it's why they still exist today.
Donald Trump wouldn't understand one concept that I've stated in this post. Nor does he need to in order to get what he wants. Him, and those like him just want it all. They care nothing for, or about, others and they will do anything imaginable to own us. If you get nothing else from this post, get this: Donald Trump wants it all. And if he gets it all, he'll want more.
msongs
(67,627 posts)Kennah
(14,403 posts)Southern Baptist Church is allied with certain, select other fundies. Some of the Pentecostals. Maybe some Methodists and Presbyterians.
Catholics bad. Adventists bad. Jehovah's Witnesses bad. Mormons bad.
It was wasn't until about 1995 that the SBC said we're sorry for embracing slavery. Very quietly. I didn't hear about it until 2003.
Jerry2144
(2,158 posts)Its finally more settled and peaceful. But there was a long stretch where it wasnt
getagrip_already
(15,190 posts)wwii in europe didn't start as a war fought between different races or religions. It was one group of white protestants against another. And then catholics, although it still wasn't a religious war.
Sure, attacking the jews was racist, but that was internal politics. Germany didn't attack other countries because they were jewish.
So yeah, there would still be war.
Your hair is curly. You nose is flat. Your hair is black. You are short. Your eyebrows touch.
There would always be a reason.
MadameButterfly
(1,153 posts)not because there were Jews. Jews were one of many excuses to get people to follow him when he had nothing real to offer. It's the nature of dictators to always want more power. They never have enough. They never get done. That's why they usually eventually overreach and fail. But they can do a lot of damage in the meantime.
The mystery for me is that there are people who follow them and hand over their freedom willingly.
getagrip_already
(15,190 posts)And hate and revenge.
None of which were based in religion nor race.
And if there were no gods, nor races, and everyone looked and sounded alike, there would still be wars.
Humans would find a reason. We are good at that.
Ocelot II
(116,265 posts)for centuries, starting at least with the reign of Henry VIII and the Catholic vs. Protestant conflicts that ensued, and continuing through The Troubles in Northern Ireland, not to mention the white English-speaking Christians who fought the US Civil War. People will always find things to fight about.
dickthegrouch
(3,206 posts)Admittedly those were effectively catholic vs Muslim. But still religious in nature.
Ocelot II
(116,265 posts)The participants in the first two Crusades did not speak English - most of the European soldiers were Frankish and Germanic; the English soldiers in subsequent crusades didn't speak what we know as English, and all were fighting against non-English-speaking non-White non-Christians. There have been plenty of religious wars throughout history but the OP relates only to Christians. So the Crusades are irrelevant to the OP's question.
Yavin4
(35,475 posts)and then used those lessons to colonize the world.
GreenWave
(6,975 posts)you know, not ashen brown.
What if Christians understood how badly they plagiarized the son of Zeus and Alcmene.
What if English speakers understood that they need to be a hero and call it a zero. Their o (oh) simply must go!
Then for the first time we can meet your initial premise. I, for one, am looking forward to that day.
Kennah
(14,403 posts)brush
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in the old world, in fact, there's one going on right now.
That white-on-white crime has got to stop.
Yavin4
(35,475 posts)Yes. There have been wars in Eastern Europe bc of the collapse of the Soviet Bloc and today in Ukraine.
Wounded Bear
(58,879 posts)Yeah, I know they don't all "speak English," but Christians have been finding reasons to kill each other for about 2000 years now.
Odds are it will continue, though we have enjoyed a bit of a slow down over the last 70 years or so.
cloudbase
(5,538 posts)Celerity
(44,124 posts)marble falls
(58,190 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,485 posts)limbicnuminousity
(1,407 posts)Go back and take out Gilgamesh.
Srkdqltr
(6,485 posts)Don't mind me im in a silly mood tonight.
limbicnuminousity
(1,407 posts)Weird primary night, think we're all either a bit silly or irritable.
Srkdqltr
(6,485 posts)sakabatou
(42,256 posts)It's very divisive.
Takket
(21,804 posts)eye color
hair color
favorite food
whatever difference they can find their will attack
Celerity
(44,124 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,485 posts)hatrack
(59,631 posts)Thanks!!
Response to Cyrano (Original post)
MyNameIsJonas This message was self-deleted by its author.
Under your scenario...
Christians would splinter into sub-groups, a community of whites would shave their heads and another would dye their hair red...
Humans are tribal animals and without distinctions, they'll create their own.
lindysalsagal
(20,866 posts)Because religion is about "us" and "them." It ceases to exist, otherwise.
hatrack
(59,631 posts)Because one group of white English-speaking Christians would have the Absolute Divine Truth and, they would spread the word of . . .
"NO!!! WE possess the Absolute Divine Truth, not you infidels, and we will show you when we smite . . . "
"NO!!! WE are the True Believers, as opposed to you conclaves of freaks! God speaks to our divine leaders, and through them, we understand that . . . "
And so forth.
Chi67
(1,096 posts)What if everyone on Earth was white, Christian, and spoke English?
I would leave immediately. I'm about at that point now. As a gay man, I have been fighting all my life just to be recognized as a human being. The 80s were especially challenging. I am lucky to have survived the AIDS epidemic. I thought things were getting better during Obama. But then Trump came along and everyone's true colors showed. I am sick and tired of having to defend my humanity.
While I would never end my own life at this point (I tried at 19), I will be relieved when it's over. Everything, every day is a struggle. People like me are attacked just for existing constantly, and I am so fucking tired of it. It just never ends.
If there is such a thing as reincarnation, I hope I NEVER am reborn here on this planet. There has to be a better place where people are not constantly demonized just for existing.
To be honest, I have no fear of death at all. There are fates worse than death, and for many people on this planet, this is exactly it-a living hell.
Hell is indeed other people on this planet. Just look at Ukraine, Israel/Palestine, most of Africa. Who in their right mind would want to be in any of those places?
Life on this planet is a very sick joke. But it is less than funny for most of its inhabitants. And let's be honest, most people in this world live under oppressive regimes.
DFW
(54,681 posts)"Yeah, and so what?"