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bigtree

(93,291 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 09:25 AM Jan 2024

Kornacki: We've never seen this large a gap between the independent vote and the Republican vote in an NH GOP primary

Steve Kornacki @SteveKornacki
We've never seen a gap between the independent vote and the Republican vote in an NH GOP primary like we saw last night. Trump won R's by 49, Haley took independents by 22 -- a swing of 71 points. Previous high was 40.



remember...

An NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll of voters in that state found that fully 43 percent of Nikki Haley supporters said they would back President Biden over Trump.


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Kornacki: We've never seen this large a gap between the independent vote and the Republican vote in an NH GOP primary (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2024 OP
This explains the ALL CAPS tirade last night tinrobot Jan 2024 #1
This is what is freaking out Orange Jesus and why he is afraid of Nikki Haley Pachamama Jan 2024 #2
It isn't really about Nikki Haley. It's that a lot of people dislike Trump. yardwork Jan 2024 #6
I think this is funny thatdemguy Jan 2024 #3
Those numbers will only get worse if Pelosi stays in the race BeyondGeography Jan 2024 #4
Touche Tom Rinaldo Jan 2024 #5
"Those numbers will only get worse if Pelosi stays in the race" Talitha Jan 2024 #21
It's obvious what became of "sane" Republicans Tom Rinaldo Jan 2024 #7
Trump is going to lose badly in NH. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #8
A shout-out to Independents: Save the Republic! Vogon_Glory Jan 2024 #9
My first question though Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #10
interesting no show nt et tu Jan 2024 #11
Because Rs had no contest in the 2020 primary. It was trump alone. keopeli Jan 2024 #12
I'm so glad Steve is back. zanana1 Jan 2024 #13
Steve's vacation is over - time to go back to work FakeNoose Jan 2024 #15
There are GOP strategists who are trying to figure out HOW they can guarantee those independant voters can't vote Ford_Prefect Jan 2024 #14
Probably ... even though it's the most UN-AMERICAN thing they could ever do FakeNoose Jan 2024 #16
41% of the country identify as independent, 28% as republican... jcgoldie Jan 2024 #17
Recommended! H2O Man Jan 2024 #18
This is what Koch money buys. Having made the GOP too toxic to win, they need independents. n/t TygrBright Jan 2024 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Wednesdays Jan 2024 #20

tinrobot

(11,909 posts)
1. This explains the ALL CAPS tirade last night
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jan 2024

He may get the nomination, but he's screwed in November

Pachamama

(17,534 posts)
2. This is what is freaking out Orange Jesus and why he is afraid of Nikki Haley
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 09:31 AM
Jan 2024

We know he is a sexist misogynist scumbag - no surprises there that he would attack her and threaten that she is going to be going through some “stuff”.

But this is what is scary for him - independents are more drawn to her than him and he needs independents.

This news and statistics about independents was the best news to come out of New Hampshire. And all the attacks on Nikki Haley may give him temporary toddler relief - and may even lose him more Independents and moderate Conservatives - and Republican women.

yardwork

(68,766 posts)
6. It isn't really about Nikki Haley. It's that a lot of people dislike Trump.
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 09:57 AM
Jan 2024

A lot of long-time Republicans are desperately hoping that Trump is not the nominee. They don't particularly like Haley but she's the only alternative remaining.

Trump will get the nomination because a large majority of the remaining Republicans (as more reasonable people flee to "Independent" status) worship him.

The question is whether the "Independents" will vote for him in November, stay home, or vote for Biden.

Democrats must get out the vote. Whichever party gets out the vote wins in November. We could take it all - White House, Senate, House - if we GOTV.

thatdemguy

(615 posts)
3. I think this is funny
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 09:39 AM
Jan 2024

rush limdruggy years ago told repugs to register to vote as a Democrat and vote in primaries against the leading candidate.
Looks like this was sort of used in NH, independents voted for Haley in this primary. The amount of independents who voted on the Democrat side is low compared to those who voted in the pug side.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,179 posts)
7. It's obvious what became of "sane" Republicans
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 10:12 AM
Jan 2024

They became Independents. Trump rules over a shrinking Republican Party. An increasingly debased crown.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
8. Trump is going to lose badly in NH.
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 10:13 AM
Jan 2024

We have a lot of independent voters, by far the largest voting block, and they don’t like Trump at all.

Unfortunately they really are independent in their voting habits, and their presidential preference doesn’t translate down ballot.

Vogon_Glory

(10,151 posts)
9. A shout-out to Independents: Save the Republic!
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 10:27 AM
Jan 2024

One of the memes (among many) that we Democrats ought to be using is to portray Orange Julius as an enemy of democracy and a wanna-be dictator. I hope there’s a way to make Independents feel that voting for Joe isn’t just about voting for a Democrat, it’s about preserving the rule of law, free elections, and government by the people for the people.

Ford_Prefect

(8,486 posts)
14. There are GOP strategists who are trying to figure out HOW they can guarantee those independant voters can't vote
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jan 2024

In November.
A really, really bent election is the only one they can win, so that's what they're gonna engineer. Right down to tossed ballots, refused certification, and the state legislatures declaring the winner.

And there is Nothing which mainstream Republican voters can do about it. The GOP has finally and irrevocably gone full rogue insurrection.

FakeNoose

(39,772 posts)
16. Probably ... even though it's the most UN-AMERICAN thing they could ever do
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jan 2024

God I hate Repukes!

By this coming November, none of it is going to matter. It will be obvious to all of us - including the Repukes - that Chump is done in politics. He'll never be a viable candidate again after this. We just have to get through the next 10 months of his garbage.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
17. 41% of the country identify as independent, 28% as republican...
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 12:02 PM
Jan 2024

Could be a problem come november Trumpie!

TygrBright

(21,267 posts)
19. This is what Koch money buys. Having made the GOP too toxic to win, they need independents. n/t
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 12:08 PM
Jan 2024

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