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senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 05:11 PM Jan 2024

Good job again, MSNBC!

Their headline at the beginning of Nicole Wallace's show: Independents Reject Trump in New Hampshire. Good framing, not to mention true. Yesterday they interviewed more than one Biden voter. Imagine that!

Is the tide turning with a small slice of the corporate media?

Hate to ruin things by quoting Tapper at the same time on CNN, but basically he lead with Cheato's great unprecedented victory. Of course.

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Good job again, MSNBC! (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jan 2024 OP
I dont think Nikki Haley can get the nomination but doc03 Jan 2024 #1
And a bonus is that she REALLY senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #2
Trump is almost an incumbant he should have got 80% or more of the vote and doc03 Jan 2024 #6
Not how Tapper spun it senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #7
I'm not a fan of Tapper but I don't think he's "so in the tank for R's" progressoid Jan 2024 #8
Opinions can vary senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #9
Same Point I Made Following Iowa n/t DallasNE Jan 2024 #20
Tfg not getting 80% or higher is the turd in the punch bowl for trump... Omnipresent Jan 2024 #26
She's not really damaging him though ... LenaBaby61 Jan 2024 #11
Well, that was a pretty good question from Bash senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #15
She knows she just needs to hang on long enough to see Cheato convicted. sybylla Jan 2024 #23
I think she's wise to hang on at least through the convention soldierant Jan 2024 #25
I wonder if the fact that the Slobfather thucythucy Jan 2024 #3
CNN is making a mistake? senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #4
LOL! thucythucy Jan 2024 #5
CNN doesn't have a license he can revoke. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #10
They don't have broadcast licenses. Bird Lady Jan 2024 #17
The Biden campaign person was good too. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #12
Yes, and the write in policy senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #13
What I liked about yesterday was there were 21 candidates on the Democratic ticket. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #16
eggscllent start. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #14
Truth. Social issues based on hate. What a concept. czarjak Jan 2024 #18
Our press and media aren't leaders BaronChocula Jan 2024 #19
Never could warm up to Tapper. Do not get his appeal at all. Joinfortmill Jan 2024 #21
It really is quite sensational Biden got more write-in votes than Obama got being Vinca Jan 2024 #22
You know that is a very good point senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #24
I heard it a number of places, but can't seem to find anything with the exact wording. I did, Vinca Jan 2024 #27
Thanks for looking that up senseandsensibility Jan 2024 #28

doc03

(36,508 posts)
6. Trump is almost an incumbant he should have got 80% or more of the vote and
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 05:20 PM
Jan 2024

the media calls it a great victory.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
7. Not how Tapper spun it
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 05:23 PM
Jan 2024

He is so in the tank for R's. But yeah, you make a really good point and that's why how poorly he did was perfectly encapsulated in MSNBC's headline.

progressoid

(50,651 posts)
8. I'm not a fan of Tapper but I don't think he's "so in the tank for R's"
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 05:43 PM
Jan 2024

In fact, I don't really watch him but have seen some clips of him calling out members of the GOP

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
9. Opinions can vary
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 05:47 PM
Jan 2024

and I've seen him hit Cheato pretty hard. But, overall, IMHO, he favors Rs. His usual attitude was pretty well summarized by how he characterized the NH results today.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
11. She's not really damaging him though ...
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 06:19 PM
Jan 2024

Nimararta the clown is still going around saying that Pres. tRump and Pres. Biden are being investigated. Pres. Biden is under NO serious investigation and has ZERO indictments, and the jealous o Kamala hater keeps on bashing Kamala Harris stating that she'd be a disaster as president, and should make your skin crawl or some jealous clap trap she says about Kamala on the regular. God knows I don't care for that bunch over at CNN, but Dana Bash asked her "What has Kamala Harris done that's on par with what Donald Trump's done that would disqualify her from being president?" Nimarata of course side stepped the question, then again doubled down on Trump and Biden are under investigation, both are old, both ran the country into a depression yada, yada yada. I'm tired of that lying, worthless "There's no racism in America" reich-winged, racist troll who will more than likely endorse her "dear leader" who is now racially making fun of and mocking her clothing now And no, she won't get the nomination. She was done before she even ran for president, because her MAGA crew won't vote for her, "unless it's to clean their house" as one told my friend (white) who owns an Ace Hardware in Columbia SC. Other friends in SC (White) told me that they talk about her is PAST racist. They hate her, and are in love with, and would give their sorry racist lives for their lying, dictator, drug-addicted, rapist, mentally declining tRump.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
15. Well, that was a pretty good question from Bash
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 06:44 PM
Jan 2024

Didn't hear it since I don't watch CNN voluntarily anymore, but that's more than I expected from her even if she didn't follow up.

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
23. She knows she just needs to hang on long enough to see Cheato convicted.
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jan 2024

There are several possibilities before convention time for that to happen. Don't believe me? Watch Glen Kirchner's recent video on this.

soldierant

(7,773 posts)
25. I think she's wise to hang on at least through the convention
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:15 PM
Jan 2024

because something could haoen to Trump**. Not necessarily a legal something, but that is a possibility. So would stroking out be. Even should it happen after the convention, holding on that long puts her in an obvious position.

thucythucy

(8,724 posts)
3. I wonder if the fact that the Slobfather
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 05:17 PM
Jan 2024

has threatened to revoke NBC's broadcast license might be a factor here.

Of course, he's said the same about CNN, perhaps the PTB there don't take Cheato's threat seriously.

If so, I think they're making a dreadful mistake.

TwilightZone

(27,955 posts)
10. CNN doesn't have a license he can revoke.
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 05:47 PM
Jan 2024

They're not a broadcast network.

I doubt that NBC cares about the threat, either. It's just more Trump blabber. There's little he can do to carry it out.

Bird Lady

(1,894 posts)
17. They don't have broadcast licenses.
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 07:15 PM
Jan 2024

Just more empty threats about something he knows nothing about. I am not that surprised
since he knows nothing about anything. He is a moron.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
13. Yes, and the write in policy
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 06:41 PM
Jan 2024

was a great strategy. Of course since it worked we don't hear anything about it, but can you imagine if he had won less than 50%?

LiberalFighter

(53,392 posts)
16. What I liked about yesterday was there were 21 candidates on the Democratic ticket.
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 07:14 PM
Jan 2024

Which would make it difficult for voters to select someone they really don't know. I checked 3 locations and Phillips did not have the same position on the ballot for each of them. Which would mean there would an exorbitant number of ballot position orders. Even if Phillips had position 9 on every ballot the other candidates could have different positions on other ballots.

That may have made it easier for voters to do a write-in for Biden.

BaronChocula

(2,464 posts)
19. Our press and media aren't leaders
Wed Jan 24, 2024, 08:07 PM
Jan 2024

They're followers. They don't want coverage that veers from people's perception for fear of losing audience. Even if those perceptions are wrong.

Vinca

(50,867 posts)
22. It really is quite sensational Biden got more write-in votes than Obama got being
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 09:03 AM
Jan 2024

on the ballot in 2012. It's a very good omen.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
24. You know that is a very good point
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:07 PM
Jan 2024

Do you mind telling me where you heard/read that? I might want to quote it in the future.

Vinca

(50,867 posts)
27. I heard it a number of places, but can't seem to find anything with the exact wording. I did,
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 08:50 AM
Jan 2024

however, look up the actual primary votes. This year Biden got 79,455 in his write-in campaign. In 2012, Obama was on the ballot and got 49,080. You have to also remember that some Democratics crossed over to vote for Haley just to mess with Trump. Biden's support could be a few thousand more votes than he got.

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