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It's Thursday. What's for dinner?
From the media, [The Washington Post reported that as Donald Trump left the Manhattan courtroom after his testimony, he muttered:
"This is not America. Not America. This is not America."
His voice got louder as he walked out, the paper said.]
How quaint. The one for whom treason is a mere misdemeanor or a bit of "bon mot" deigns to define what, fucking indeed, is America.
Where is propriety? It's a real word, you know.
The Blue Flower
(6,561 posts)He doesn't know an America where justice prevails.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)and injustice is anything that does not. That is his literal mindset.
He likely suffered serious abuse and neglect as a child and as such likely is not able to understand a world outside of what his pleasures and fears are. When I was growing up, my parents taught me to work hard, be honorable, be kind, and be of service to others. I was talking to my wife and children yesterday about the difference between people like us and people like Trump.
Even though we may fail at times and do things that are selfish and even hurtful, at our core, we try to balance what is best for us and for others. If I see a hundred dollar bill laying on the floor, I may have the impulse to say, "Oh yeah! A hundred dollars for me!" but I also think, "Someone who really needs that hundred, may have dropped it" so... I look around and I ask people if they dropped anything, any money... I go to some authority or central place like a shop or customer service area and ask them to make an announcement and see if anyone turns up. It would have been simple to just quietly take the money and screw whoever lost it. That is not how I operate, nor how my children operate, nor my wife. Trump would take the money, even though he is "rich". He takes pleasure in other people's misfortune. He gets aroused by exerting power over others. He has not empathy or connection to other human beings.
paleotn
(22,555 posts)msfiddlestix
(8,181 posts)TSExile
(3,363 posts)Nice to see that not everyone in authority is cowed by him.
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)enough said
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Trump only sees the world in terms of his own self aggrandizement. Anything that benefits him is good and appropriate. Anything that challenges him is unjust. It is his narcissism and sociopathy. He feels put upon by rules. He has not human empathy so the pain of others and any sense of justice does not register. It is only what is in it for him.
When he was president, he talked about "my generals" and "my army". He saw himself and still sees himself as "The State". He is America. His desires his success is America. Anything that challenges his power and success is "not America". It is a very childlike idea that most halfway "normal" people grow out of. As you develop emotionally/psychologically you see beyond yourself. You see that you are part of a family, a community, a society and you (to greater or lesser degrees) start thinking of yourself and the world in terms of your effect on others. You balance your desires, with those of others and with what is beneficial or harmful to yourself and to others.
Trump is emotionally/psychologically incapable of doing that. He only sees the world in terms of his own benefit. Anything that is bad for him, is bad for America, or does not reflect "America" in his mind.
ShazzieB
(22,803 posts)Trump is emotionally/psychologically incapable of viewing the world from any standpoint other than what he deems beneficial or desirable for himself. He is literally emotionally and psychologically stunted, having never matured past the emotional/psychological level of toddlerhood.
Trying to interpret his behavior through any lens other than his extreme narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders is a huge mistake. I see fewer people making that mistake at present, after all these years of observing him as a political candidate, a president, an ex-president, and now a political candidate again, but it still happens, and when it does, my reaction is always
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Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...I'm certainly not trying to defend him, it was a bad attempt at a very inconsiderate joke, but honestly I don't think age-related cognitive decline is his problem anyway. I think all of his BS is just that, BS.
He's a selfish, greedy, horrible human being who has never faced any kind of justice in his entire life.
msfiddlestix
(8,181 posts)Not saying he isn't suffering from mental decline. It's just that all of these remarks he makes are evidence of no change in emotional mental intellectual growth to any degree. He is and always has been incapable of even faking it for his own benefit.
meaning faking the pretense of any of these attributes possessed by most normally functioning adults.
His narcissism is to such an extreme it seems to me, he is incapable of understanding that it is necessary to even try to fake it.
On the other hand, maybe he is the exception to the rule. Maybe he doesn't need to fake it to make it, after all, he's still free to continue with his quest to rule America.
paleotn
(22,555 posts)Such a jackass, daddy put him in military school.
SWBTATTReg
(26,360 posts)who were wronged.
tRUMP is wrong about 'this is not America. It's just that it's not the America that he's manipulated for so long w/ his money and lies, and he's been caught and charged w/ numerous felonies. That's the America I am glad to see, but I do wish that the wheels of Justice turn a little faster.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)The road is long with many a winding turn.................................drive carefully.
SWBTATTReg
(26,360 posts)ShazzieB
(22,803 posts)rurallib
(64,774 posts)They will love you Donny!
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)In a real America he would have been in prison decades ago.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,396 posts)Let me play it for you now...
"This is not rich, white America. Not rich, white America. This is not rich, white America."
Back to you, WaPo...
Boomerproud
(9,338 posts)Nothing new.
moondust
(21,333 posts)The Putinsky Kleptocratic Republic of Drumpfuckistan.
Name too big for toddlers.
lefthandedskyhook
(1,181 posts)I was hoping it was all just a bad dream