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This is cruel and unusual punishment (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 2024
OP
The bad guys could never let go of the idea of hanging somebody.This is as close as they could get
Walleye
Jan 2024
#2
What the heck is wrong with the guillotine or just shooting them in the head?
Calculating
Jan 2024
#10
I don't understand why they don't put them out with Propofol and then inject them with a lethal dose of Morphine?
beaglelover
Jan 2024
#15
Sotomayor dissents with 'deep sadness' from Alabama execution experiment
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 2024
#16
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)1. The comments are crazy.
redqueen
(115,186 posts)3. I wish I hadn't looked.
Elon has turned that site into a cesspit.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)5. Me too. Yep he has.
Walleye
(45,836 posts)2. The bad guys could never let go of the idea of hanging somebody.This is as close as they could get
Its for a murder that happened something like 38 years ago?
leftyladyfrommo
(20,051 posts)13. It's always bothered me that the person they
execute is not the same person that committed the crime 30 years ago.
Walleye
(45,836 posts)14. I agree
redqueen
(115,186 posts)4. 22 minutes.
It is a absolutely cruel and unusual punishment.
I can't believe people support this.
obamanut2012
(29,678 posts)11. Me either
I am 100% against the DP, but JFC the firing squad and guillotine are way more humane than this.
Lars39
(26,576 posts)6. And this was their second attempt to kill him.
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,347 posts)7. Oh, Alabama
rsdsharp
(12,120 posts)8. They count funny. 1,3,4,5,6,8,9,10.
Stinky The Clown
(68,970 posts)12. I noticed that, too
Bamacounting?
snot
(11,934 posts)9. There must be a dozen ways to kill someone
with certainty and minimal suffering.
This isn't about justice.
Calculating
(3,000 posts)10. What the heck is wrong with the guillotine or just shooting them in the head?
instant and painless vs all these weird methods.
beaglelover
(4,517 posts)15. I don't understand why they don't put them out with Propofol and then inject them with a lethal dose of Morphine?
That would be a very humane way to administer the DP.
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,000 posts)16. Sotomayor dissents with 'deep sadness' from Alabama execution experiment
The execution by use of nitrogen gas was cruel and unusual punishment. The SCOTUS did not listen to Justice Sotomayor
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/alabama-nitrogen-gas-execution-supreme-court-dissent-rcna135824
The Supreme Court approved a human experiment Thursday in Alabama without bothering to explain why. The GOP-appointed majoritys order simply said, The application for stay of execution of sentence of death presented to Justice Thomas and by him referred to the Court is denied. The petition for a writ of certiorari is denied. That was all the state needed to go forward with its untested method of using nitrogen gas to kill Kenneth Smith, who, according to the Associated Press, reportedly appeared conscious for several minutes into the execution and, for at least two minutes, appeared to shake and writhe on the gurney, sometimes pulling against the restraints.
The only real words that the high court published on the matter came from the three Democratic appointees, mainly Justice Sonia Sotomayor. She noted that Smith, who was convicted of murdering Elizabeth Sennett in 1988, would be the first person in this country ever to be executed in this way and that his executioners will not intervene and will not remove the mask, even if Smith vomits into it and chokes on his own vomit. This wasnt even the states first attempt at executing Smith: Alabama botched his 2022 lethal injection after the justices let that one go forward with another unexplained order over Democratic dissent.
Twice now this Court has ignored Smiths warning that Alabama will subject him to an unconstitutional risk of pain, Sotomayor wrote, concluding her dissent with deep sadness, but commitment to the Eighth Amendments protection against cruel and unusual punishment. Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson added their own brief dissent in which they noted that the state hadnt even provided Smith all the discovery requested about this new untested protocol.
And what was the majoritys rejoinder to this macabre recitation? Silence continuing a disturbing theme of unexplained decisions in crucial cases, including ones like this where, as Sotomayor writes, The world is watching.
The only real words that the high court published on the matter came from the three Democratic appointees, mainly Justice Sonia Sotomayor. She noted that Smith, who was convicted of murdering Elizabeth Sennett in 1988, would be the first person in this country ever to be executed in this way and that his executioners will not intervene and will not remove the mask, even if Smith vomits into it and chokes on his own vomit. This wasnt even the states first attempt at executing Smith: Alabama botched his 2022 lethal injection after the justices let that one go forward with another unexplained order over Democratic dissent.
Twice now this Court has ignored Smiths warning that Alabama will subject him to an unconstitutional risk of pain, Sotomayor wrote, concluding her dissent with deep sadness, but commitment to the Eighth Amendments protection against cruel and unusual punishment. Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson added their own brief dissent in which they noted that the state hadnt even provided Smith all the discovery requested about this new untested protocol.
And what was the majoritys rejoinder to this macabre recitation? Silence continuing a disturbing theme of unexplained decisions in crucial cases, including ones like this where, as Sotomayor writes, The world is watching.
