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Quixote1818

(29,080 posts)
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:14 PM Jan 2024

There is a popular post on DU suggesting Trump won't make it to the General Election. Let's do a poll

Here is the thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218632620

So will Trump's mental decline prevent him from making it to the General Election? I don't have a strong opinion either way. It was such a popular post I was just curious how that idea would poll here on DU.


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Trump won't make it to the General Election or he will be too damaged to be viable because of too much cognative decline and lose badly.
26 (38%)
Even with cognative decline he will make it to the GE and it will be a close race
35 (51%)
Other
7 (10%)
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There is a popular post on DU suggesting Trump won't make it to the General Election. Let's do a poll (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jan 2024 OP
Magats don't care Beausoleil Jan 2024 #1
I pray that it comes true and that God hits paydirt!! SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #10
I went with "other" simply because I can't know for sure Silent3 Jan 2024 #2
He's been losing, totally, since 2020. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2024 #3
well i don't know if he'll make it to the general..... Takket Jan 2024 #4
I was thinking of doing a poll like this myself captain queeg Jan 2024 #5
Other. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #6
He'll make it to the general election... WestMichRad Jan 2024 #7
Yes, the poll is asking for multiple prediction. DC77 Jan 2024 #9
The reason I included that it would be close in the second choice is because in the thread I link to Quixote1818 Jan 2024 #11
Not sure why anyone would think it won't be close considering his last two elections were extremely close. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #12
Because he's a blithering idiot and a criminal? WestMichRad Jan 2024 #14
He was all those things in 2020. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #17
Yeah, it's wishful thinking that it will be a blowout no matter how insane Trump becomes. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2024 #15
If there had been no inflation and cost of living crisis... MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #18
Unfortunately, this is going to be an extremely close election mahina Jan 2024 #8
This poll, of course, is meaningless. I do think his cognitive decline is becoming more and more obvious. NNadir Jan 2024 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author mahina Jan 2024 #16
The Republicans who are working to stop him don't really have the means. lees1975 Jan 2024 #19
That's an extremely bold prediction... DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #21
It will be a close race, but we will win DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #20

Silent3

(15,490 posts)
2. I went with "other" simply because I can't know for sure
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:25 PM
Jan 2024

I’d say Trump’s cognitive decline having an impact on the election is a distinct possibility, but there’s not enough info to guess the odds.

My guess would be Trump dropping out of the race outright is very unlikely.

Trump showing such a big decline so soon that Haley wins the Republican nomination is also pretty unlikely, but more likely than Trump dropping out. (He’d stubbornly run as an independent in this event.)

The most likely scenario I see for Trump’s mental state affecting the race is that Trump becomes the Republican nominee, then simply embarrasses himself into losing a lot of support in the general election.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,912 posts)
3. He's been losing, totally, since 2020.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:26 PM
Jan 2024

For a guy who wants to project "winner", that's a problem. The true Trump is getting exposed and it's driving him nutz.

Takket

(21,764 posts)
4. well i don't know if he'll make it to the general.....
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:28 PM
Jan 2024

but if he does not it won't be because of "mental decline". the gop ostriches all have their heads in the sand on that so that won't stop him at all.

captain queeg

(10,401 posts)
5. I was thinking of doing a poll like this myself
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:28 PM
Jan 2024

I don’t think he’ll be the rethug candidate. By then they realize what. Hot mess he is and will be happy if something’s prevents him, be it legal or mental. Not to say he won’t try to run some 3rd party candidacy.

limbicnuminousity

(1,407 posts)
6. Other.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:32 PM
Jan 2024

Best guesstimate is he won't make it but it won't ONLY be because of cognitive decline. The court cases are a major factor. The fines he's been receiving, Ghouliani demanding legal fees, his inability to do business in New York, his drug addiction all tie into it.

I just don't see him holding it together for another 10 months. He'll win the R primary (or be in the lead) by votes no doubt. My suspicion is the R convention is going to be one for the history books. I say that half in anticipation and half in dread.

WestMichRad

(1,356 posts)
7. He'll make it to the general election...
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:33 PM
Jan 2024

… but it’s not gonna be close. He and the GQP are gonna get crushed. GOTV!!

DC77

(107 posts)
9. Yes, the poll is asking for multiple prediction.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 09:02 PM
Jan 2024

Should be he either makes it to the General Election or not. Should not include how “close” the loss is.

Quixote1818

(29,080 posts)
11. The reason I included that it would be close in the second choice is because in the thread I link to
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 09:20 PM
Jan 2024

They suggest he could make it to the GE but be so damaged he will get blown out.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
12. Not sure why anyone would think it won't be close considering his last two elections were extremely close.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 09:21 PM
Jan 2024

WestMichRad

(1,356 posts)
14. Because he's a blithering idiot and a criminal?
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 09:37 PM
Jan 2024

At some point, some of his base will give up on him. I’m guessing quite a few will, after the convention but before the election.

Hoping!!

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
17. He was all those things in 2020.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:15 PM
Jan 2024

And yet he actually improved his vote percentage nationally and in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
18. If there had been no inflation and cost of living crisis...
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:17 PM
Jan 2024

...plus no Gaza conflict like we're seeing right now, I could see it. I could see Biden winning big in November. But all those things are making him vulnerable and likely will keep this race closer than it ever has any business of being.

mahina

(17,810 posts)
8. Unfortunately, this is going to be an extremely close election
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 08:39 PM
Jan 2024

Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, who am I forgetting? Wants to put that moron in power because he is easily manipulated and weak.

Also, unfortunately it is coming at a time when it’s extremely cheap to do so. However so not cheap for us to do what we have to do which is one on one conversion and voter registration. That didn’t get any easier

NNadir

(33,621 posts)
13. This poll, of course, is meaningless. I do think his cognitive decline is becoming more and more obvious.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 09:29 PM
Jan 2024

Let's face it though, it's not like many of his supporters have ever been able to consider careers as brain surgeons or rocketry engineers.

There are a lot of stupid people in the United States, any many people prone to cult behavior, but this cult isn't big enough to make it anymore.

We're all shell shocked that an immoral fool won in 2016, but in 2024 we're in "fool us once" territory. In the nether regions I knew as "Trump country," the flags are mostly down. The morons, as morons often do after binge drinking, are fighting off a hangover.

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

lees1975

(3,980 posts)
19. The Republicans who are working to stop him don't really have the means.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:21 PM
Jan 2024

There will be moves to block his delegates, but I don't think that amounts to much.

He gets there, but he loses. Do Third parties benefit? The media loves to cite this or that poll, all over the place, about their popularity, but if you look closely at the data, the support is weak. Money is the big factor and Cornell West and RFK Jr and NoLabels don't have any and are having trouble raising any.

https://www.pennlive.com/politics/2024/01/new-pennsylvania-poll-shows-biden-leading-trump-in-head-to-head.html

7.5% lead in PA. Friends of mine in the precint where I used to volunteer there say it's even more than that.

I stick with my original prediction, Biden, and 400+ electoral votes, including all the states he won in 2020 plus North Carolina, Ohio and Texas.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,568 posts)
21. That's an extremely bold prediction...
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:32 PM
Jan 2024

I certainly don't see any way we would win in Ohio or Texas, but North Carolina is contestable...
On the other hand, Michigan seems extremely at risk to me, as a resident, with the largest number of Arab-Americans of any state in the country, who are pissed off about the Gaza war...

Better bookmark your own post here, so you can bring it up again if you were anywhere near close,
and tell the rest of us "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" lol


The wild card in all this is whether any of Trump's criminal trials can be completed before election day...
'The jury is out' on that, but I personally think in terms of the worst case scenario, where none of the cases are decided before then.
(Don't want to succumb to overconfidence)

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