Haley: Texas can Secede from the US if the state decides to do so

[senseandsensibility]

Direct quote on CNN . Hoo, boy. I thought she was supposed to be the reasonable one.

[mucifer]

1. Awesome!

[senseandsensibility]

3. MAGA!

[TheBlackAdder]

42. The more she speaks, the more I see how much of an idiot she truly is.

[brush]

54. Agreed. The more she talks, the more moronic she seems.

After the Civil War, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that it was, in fact, illegal for states to secede from the union. That means there is no approved process for a state to form its own nation.

https://www.citizenscount.org/news/what-would-it-look-if-nh-seceded?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIooy5ysmJhAMVZDutBh0sBglyEAMYASAAEgKNEvD_BwE

[lapfog_1]

2. if wishing it made it so...

[TwilightZone]

4. She knows better, but she can't stop pandering.

It's really pathetic.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

5. Please tell me she didn't say "succeed."

[TwilightZone]

9. She didn't.

https://news.yahoo.com/nikki-haley-says-texas-secede-185700053.html

[Gidney N Cloyd]

14. I see the original post's been corrected now.

[senseandsensibility]

15. That was me typing too fast

Fixed it.

[Beausoleil]

6. She really is an idiot.

She needs a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

[senseandsensibility]

8. Was Cheato onto something with

the birdbrain nickname? I thought it was ridiculous projection, but this is another example of her lacking common sense and an inner moral compass.

[TwilightZone]

11. I don't think she's really an idiot.

She just can't help pandering to the R base. She knows that she's wrong, but says what she thinks the base wants to hear.

[Beausoleil]

18. She just plays one on TV.

OK!

[TwilightZone]

20. A lot of Rs play idiots on TV.

Including Trump.

They are actors following a script, because the formula has been proven successful with R voters.

[Beausoleil]

26. I think a lot of them really are idiots

Comer for one, he is a real dumbass.

Boebert, of course.

There is a marked difference between most R senators and the whole GOP house.

They really are not sending their best to the house, but the pickings are slim too.

[0rganism]

7. Secede?

Tricky word I guess, probably doesn't get used a lot because it doesn't happen

[senseandsensibility]

10. You're right

Fixed it.

[grumpyduck]

12. I can just her it now from the magats there:

"But what about all the money we get from the government?"

[unblock]

53. Mexico will pay for it! All of it!

[keithbvadu2]

13. Not going to happen but she gets points from the wingnuts just for saying it.

[TwilightZone]

16. That's the intent, of course.

She knows better.

[rsdsharp]

17. So she didn't know what caused the Civil War,

and doesn’t know how it worked out for the states that did secede.

[walkingman]

19. Many Texans believe this? Shamefully spread by Texas GOP politicans.

In 2009, then-Gov. Rick Perry made national headlines for jokingly suggesting that Texas might secede.

In June 2022, the Texas State Republican Convention adopted a platform urging the Legislature to put a referendum before the people of Texas in November 2023 “to determine whether or not the State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation.”

And in 2023, former state Rep. Bryan Slaton filed a resolution seeking an election to allow Texas voters to decide whether to leave the United States.

Despite perennial talk of another secession, the law is clear that Texas may not leave the union.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/29/texas-secession/#:~:text=No%2C%20Texas%20can't%20legally,that%20a%20state%20cannot%20secede.

[senseandsensibility]

22. Exactly, thanks for that background, and

if Haley knows this (I hope she does), she is willing to risk ridicule from most of the population just to pander to wingnuts.

[TwilightZone]

27. She knows.

She's just playing dumb. Same thing she did when she said the Civil War was about how government was run.

[lindysalsagal]

21. Should automatically disqualify her

Ridiculous

[bucolic_frolic]

23. The anti-Lincoln running in the party of Lincoln

That she has no clue as to how that sounds and is a non-starter for the USA, having fought a civil war over secession, she should just quit. That will sink her candidacy at some point. Are they all just as dumb as Trump?

[senseandsensibility]

28. You summarized my reaction

perfectly. I also think it should be disqualifying.

[keithbvadu2]

24. Haley, Thank God you republicans won that war back in the 1860s.

[struggle4progress]

25. Battle Cry of Freedom

[raccoon]

57. There's a book, BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM, that's a kick-butt history of the Civil War. Also

has a lot about the decades leading up to it.

[tinrobot]

29. She can say goodbye to 40 GOP electoral votes if that happens.

Brilliant thinking, Nikki.

[senseandsensibility]

30. OMG

I didn't think of that.

[Freethinker65]

31. So then TX votes don't count for President. They get President Abbott. And the US builds a wall around Texas!

[moonshinegnomie]

56. all the us would have to do then is announe that the cowboys and texasn are no longer allowed to travel to the us

after all they are now a foreign country. imagine the screams from their fans when they realize there sports teams are as good as defunct. after all the us would have no obligation to allow the now foreign teams into tthe country to work

[EarlG]

32. Whaaaaat

Uh… no it literally can’t, not legally anyway.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/29/texas-secession/

[senseandsensibility]

38. She said this on the Breakfast Club (I think)

a radio show. As you point out above, it is illegal. I think this should be getting more attention.

[no_hypocrisy]

33. And she means like how it was OK for S Carolina to be the first state

to secede in 1860? No sense of history or irony.

[hatrack]

36. And how did that work out?

Oh, yeah:

Columbia:



Charleston:

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[Takket]

34. best of luck to the gop to EVER win the white house again without Texas's guarenteed electoral votes

[Talitha]

35. They'll lose their government benefits and try skedaddling into adjoining states.

How should we greet the new immigrants... with razor wire?

[Mr.Bill]

48. President Biden will build a wall.

And Texas will pay for it.

[Talitha]

49. Kudos - I like the way you think!!!

[patphil]

37. That would be devastating for Texas.

15 military bases with over 164 thousand personnel (as of 9/2017) and about $100 billion in economic impact.
And that's just one aspect of the financial disaster they would go through.
On the other hand, Texas has 25 Republican and 13 Democrat US House members, and 2 Republican Senators. Losing that would be a big positive for the rest of the nation.

[senseandsensibility]

39. Nice summary

The ones that want this are idiots, or using it to pander to idiots. But it's tempting to tell them to go ahead.

[moonshinegnomie]

55. as long as austin,houston,dallas san antonio and the other blue parts get to stay in the us

the rest of this hellhole can wither and die

[Deep State Witch]

40. Spoken Like A Daughter of South Carolina

Where they're proud to be the ones who fired on Fort Sumter and started the Civil War.

[Voltaire2]

41. I'm fine with that. It seems to be the least worst path.

Our federation is unsustainable. There is no common ground. One of the two major parties is an overtly fascist party intending to implement authoritarian one party rule. There is no middle ground between authoritarianism and democratic liberalism.

Given a choice between fascism and separation, I’ll take separation. I think, realistically that is where we are.

[Iggo]

43. They can try.

[ecstatic]

44. This is why she is unfit. She's just a less obnoxious version of vivek

She'll say anything. slick nikki.

[Talitha]

50. "She's just a less obnoxious version of vivek"

Great description!!

[Wonder Why]

45. She's just trying to show that the Civil War (at least son of Civil War) was not about slavery. Of course, when it is

talked about in the future, she'd probably deny it was about immigration, civil rights, the Constitution, the rule of law, intelligence vs stupidity, human decency, honest conduct, ethics, equal protection of the law, Democracy, etc, etc.

"It was the War of Democratic Party Aggression!"

Remember, Nikki,, when Texas is devastated, it might behoove the federal government to truly make peace with the Mexican government of past aggression and let them have the whole state back - provided of course, that immigrants would be given free property throughout Texas.

[LoisB]

46. The secession will take place at the same time I get my 40 acres and mule.

In other words, on the 12th of Never.

[usonian]

47. ZERO UNDERSTANDING OF LAW

Ask republicans to pass a citizenship exam

LIKE IMMIGRANTS DO.

[dutch777]

51. So then we build a wall ALL the way around TX? Gotta reinvest in those border wall building companies!

[andym]

52. Well she's no Abe Lincoln. NT.

[dalton99a]

58. Haley is a dangerous snake.

[MaryMagdaline]

59. Disqualifying.