Killing shows Trump losing control of fans triggered by violent rhetoric: analysis

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Donald Trump is losing control over the unstable MAGA base his violent rhetoric pushes past the brink of sanity, and the proof is a decapitated federal worker’s head, a new analysis contends.

Salon’s Amanda Marcotte Thursday took a hard look at the disturbing news to come out of Pennsylvania Tuesday night when Justin Mohn, 33, posted YouTube video demanding violence against the government with his dead father’s head in full view.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/killing-shows-trump-losing-control-of-fans-triggered-by-violent-rhetoric-analysis/ar-BB1hCEHo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=b4f332f0088847df80aaf69d8042e206&ei=9

[underpants]

1. More. Good article

“Trump followers have been scared away from more organized violence,” Marcotte writes. “In truth, they just don’t want to get arrested…and are using conspiracy theories to justify their own cold feet.”

But as Trump blasts his followers with violent rhetoric and the main base comes up with strange excuses, it’s the mentally unwell people on the fringes who are pushed far enough to take action, Marcotte concludes.

“All that hate and anger is going to go somewhere,” she writes, “and often the target is close to home.”

[DENVERPOPS]

17. I seriously suspect

That no matter who wins the presidential election, Trumps cult followers will have reached critical mass and explode.

If Trump wins the Trumphumpers will take it as a sort of mandate to finally be able to go around doing whatever to whomever they please. They believe that they are all true Patriots and will all be pardoned by Trump, the reincarnation of Hitler.....

If Biden wins they will revolt and it will be across the entire nation, not just confined to 5 thousand at the Capitol, and all of them learned their lesson and this time will come armed..........

Just think about it and what do you think is more than possible that could happen.........

I predict that the chaos on the run up to the election, the day of the election, and the aftermath of the election will be unlike anything ever experienced in the entire history since the founding of our nation.......

Sorry, just being pragmatic given all that we have seen and are seeing right now..........

[Ohioboy]

24. Sadly, we will most likely be able to see it coming the whole time during that period...

and won't be able to do much since he'll word everything just right so that he can't be held responsible for any violence.

So many people who wondered out loud whether Trump would try to stay in office after 2020 were proven right.

[DENVERPOPS]

33. LOL

Like a humongous asteroid hurling towards us, but knowing it won't get here for days, weeks, or months............and us able to just watch it coming for all that time?!?!

[Tansy_Gold]

30. I've been saying this for years

Heads they win, tails we lose.

Best be prepared for the worst. Hope for the best? Maybe . . . . .

[Lovie777]

2. I'm looking from the outside..............................

and what I see is that shithole approves.

[Merlot]

3. "Losing control?" No, I think things are going exactly as he would like.

[ColinC]

5. My thoughts exactly

[Prairie_Seagull]

19. Agreed,

Has there been a response from tfg?

[Irish_Dem]

4. Completely wrong. This is exactly the control Trump wants.

People who will murder for him. Do his bidding, cause violence and chaos against his many enemies.

[tanyev]

9. Yep. He probably thinks that story is pretty cool.

[Irish_Dem]

10. Exactly, he is getting off on this story.

Big time getting off on it. He is a sadist.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

25. He also knows that this is the path to dictatorship.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Yes. Trump mobilizes his own storm troopers to do his bidding.

[limbicnuminousity]

6. Control of the mob is an illusion.

Won't be surprised if we see a return of the guillotine. Those who seek to amp up and control a mob tend to get eaten by the mob. Trump is no different. In truth, he's far less qualified than historical predecessors.

[mopinko]

7. ya think?

[Vinca]

8. Even Trump ought to think when the cult starts lopping off heads it's time to call it a day.

[2naSalit]

12. He's in...

Ecstasy over it, that someone would behead their father for him. He's that fucked up that he would see this as a plus for his dictatorship wet dream.

[stopdiggin]

11. along with a bunch of other posters, I'm going to say, "Nope."

The suggestion that there were ever any 'guardrails' or reins intended on the loony base - has no grounding or support at all. The fomentation of chaos and disorder has been an intended result of the screeching rhetoric all along. And this unhinged individual's actions say, 'loss of control' - only if you think crazy and violent action were not envisioned and taken into account. (or in fact not intended at some level)

(i.e., only if you're still not coming to grips with who and what you're dealing with)

[Buns_of_Fire]

13. Link to original Salon article:

Right-wing violence hasn't disappeared, it's just gone local
https://www.salon.com/2024/02/01/right-wing-violence-hasnt-disappeared-its-just-gone-local/

[LeftInTX]

14. OMG! I read about this murder, but didn't know it had any connection to RW wing stuff...

[3Hotdogs]

23. Jesus also had a hand in it.

In his book, he refers to the conflict between Jesus on one side and Satin and Democrats on the other.

[BaronChocula]

15. If you think he has limits consider this

Ashli Babbitt was shot at 2:44p
Donny didn't call off the rioters until 4:17p

[kimbutgar]

16. In my SF chronicle today they had a small article about this but didn't mention the guy was a right wing lunatic!

[IronLionZion]

18. "Trump followers have been scared away from more organized violence,"

“In truth, they just don’t want to get arrested…and are using conspiracy theories to justify their own cold feet.”

Arresting and jailing MAGA idiots for violence is a deterrent.

“Trump knows full well that a lot of his biggest fans are unwell or in crisis, which makes them vulnerable to conspiracy theories and false promises that MAGA (or QAnon) will give them community and purpose,”

This is the case with many violent extremist groups whether it's Islamic or White Supremacist or anything else. They want unstable, scared, angry idiots to do violence on behalf of the group's leaders and sponsors.

I'm a long time advocate of ending the white excuse for terrorism. Terrorism should not be excused as mental illness just because a white person is doing it. Being beheaded by a white Penn State alumni in suburban Philadelphia is not much comfort to people who would rather not be killed by anyone.

It's disturbing for some people to accept that the terrorists murdering Americans look like this:

[Sky Jewels]

20. So true -- his skin isn't brown enough for him to be called a terrorist.

The poor guy is just mentally ill and needs treatment. Not through the government, though. Heavens no!

[IronLionZion]

28. He's the real victim here, not the father he murdered.

[NBachers]

21. It's not just this guy, it's been ongoing with *rump. I don't remember Stop Asian Hate during the Obama Administration.

[Swede]

22. A relative watched the video, he said the guy was a full on Trumper.

Democrats were worthy of death etc etc. Scary shit.

[AllaN01Bear]

27. he is encuraging it.

[chowmama]

29. The only thing he cares about is that they're not coming for him.

He said so on January 6.

[Eyeball_Kid]

31. Trump enjoys the chaos.

He's not appalled by the murder and beheading, IMO. He sees this as collateral damage. There will always be extreme actions, and this is one of them. But they are part and parcel of the general MAGA movement, which employs chaos whenever convenient. As Trump is a sociopath, he's not encumbered by a conscience or shame or guilt. He's not going to discourage any violence done in his name, or any mention of his name associated with violence. He has not ONCE denounced violence by any person even indirectly sympathetic toward his political advancement. He never will.

[chowder66]

32. It's not JUST Trump. It's a lot of Republican leaders in Washington and around the country as well.

I wish that this was pointed out just as much as it is with Trump. Those that support him and those that are trying to compete with his sick fantasies.
DeSantis, Comer, Abbott, MTG, the list is endless.

I'm feeling like all of those that are not Trump but support his bullshit are getting seriously downplayed. They need to be called out by name or identified more than vaguely in every article about this kind of stuff.