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LetMyPeopleVote

(182,006 posts)
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 10:19 PM Feb 2024

As judges mull presidential immunity, Trump reaps the benefits of delay

The March 4 trial setting has been cancelled. TFG is winning due to the delay




https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/31/trump-trial-immunity-delay-00138688
More than 50 days have elapsed since Trump’s criminal proceedings in a Washington, D.C., trial court — on charges for attempting to subvert the 2020 election — were paused indefinitely. They won’t resume until the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals and, most likely, the Supreme Court resolve the question hanging over the entire case: whether Trump, as a former president, is immune from criminal prosecution.....

Even if the appeal were resolved this week against Trump, that calculation would put his earliest trial date in late April. But if the D.C. Circuit and the Supreme Court take additional weeks or months to deliver a final ruling, the opening days of Trump’s trial could be pushed to the summer or fall.

If, at that point, Trump retains his grip on the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, he and his allies are certain to exert intense pressure to postpone the trial until after the election. Chutkan, an Obama appointee, could plow forward with a trial anyway — and she’s repeatedly indicated that the campaign calendar has no bearing on her own.

But doing so would require Trump to sit in a courtroom for weeks during the heart of the campaign. Trump has already used his crowded legal calendar as a campaign cudgel to raise funds and rally supporters by claiming to be the victim of political prosecutions and lawsuits......

The pause in the proceedings in the election-focused case in Washington began on Dec. 7, when Trump appealed Chutkan’s conclusion that neither he — nor any former president — enjoys immunity from criminal prosecution. And Chutkan has acknowledged that as long as the immunity question remains unresolved, Trump is under no obligation to continue preparing for trial.




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As judges mull presidential immunity, Trump reaps the benefits of delay (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 OP
Yup republianmushroom Feb 2024 #1
Welcome to my nightmare. gab13by13 Feb 2024 #2
If Engoron hammers Trump, two weeks isn't going to matter. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #6
What's to discuss? angrychair Feb 2024 #3
That they "took the case at all doesn't make sense"? You think they had a choice? onenote Feb 2024 #7
That anyone, especially a president angrychair Feb 2024 #8
well all knew they would do everything possible to delay. Takket Feb 2024 #4
Also the 14th Amendment ruling cunctation (great and needless delay) GreenWave Feb 2024 #5

gab13by13

(32,761 posts)
2. Welcome to my nightmare.
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 10:25 PM
Feb 2024

Time Matters.

I saw a headline in the Guardian that judge Engoron may not make a decision until mid-February. I know, different trial, same circumstances.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
6. If Engoron hammers Trump, two weeks isn't going to matter.
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 10:44 PM
Feb 2024

And no one will care that it took an extra couple weeks.

angrychair

(12,501 posts)
3. What's to discuss?
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 10:28 PM
Feb 2024

Getting a little nervous about this immunity decision. That they took the case at all doesn't make sense. That it's taken weeks and still no decision makes it even more unnerving.

Giving Trump blanket immunity would, very literally, destroy this country.

onenote

(46,227 posts)
7. That they "took the case at all doesn't make sense"? You think they had a choice?
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 12:07 AM
Feb 2024

It's an appeal as a matter of right. It's not the easy case that so many DU "experts" seem to think it is. Indeed, parties' briefs in the case total more than 150 pages and contain references to well over 100 cases -- the Special Counsel's brief alone is 65 pages long and cites more than 80 cases, as well as numerous constitutional and statutory provisions. And there are a number of amicus briefs to be considered. Carefully and thoroughly addressing the numerous arguments made in the various briefs and during the oral argument is time-consuming and absolutely necessary in drafting an opinion in a case that is destined to go to the Supreme Court.

angrychair

(12,501 posts)
8. That anyone, especially a president
Fri Feb 2, 2024, 03:12 AM
Feb 2024

Has blanket immunity for life is completely absurd. This buffoon walks free, despite all his crimes, yet regular people are out here going to jail for no crimes.
I've got two friends going through stuff now but they don't have Trump's money, both are genuinely innocent but one lawyer told my neighbor "being innocent isn't enough, you have to be able to prove your innocent". The system protects the rich and privileged and fucks the rest of us.

Takket

(23,802 posts)
4. well all knew they would do everything possible to delay.
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 10:36 PM
Feb 2024

but i honestly never thought something so patently absurd as "let's say he's immune to everything" would be how they pulled off a delay of months.

GreenWave

(12,795 posts)
5. Also the 14th Amendment ruling cunctation (great and needless delay)
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 10:43 PM
Feb 2024

was not just about the Civil War, but how to respond to future insurrections. And to prevent Civil War traitor Jefferson Davis from becoming President. The SCOTUS has received briefs from historians stating as much. Will the GQP 6 on that court fear for their lives and rewrite that part to make it Trump friendly because they are cowards?

IIRC, Hubert H. Humphrey once said, "A President must be an apostle of peace. He must be willing to give his life, if need be, for the cause of peace, for there is no greater cause..."

He said those words in the decade where we lost JFK, MLK, and RFK. Our SCOTUS Should place the law of the land as easily understood above their own lives.

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