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by Thomas Friedman https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/31/opinion/biden-iran-israel.html
"... A Biden Doctrine as Im terming the convergence of strategic thinking and planning that my reporting has picked up would have three tracks.
On one track would be a strong and resolute stand on Iran, including a robust military retaliation against Irans proxies and agents in the region in response to the killing of three U.S. soldiers at a base in Jordan by a drone apparently launched by a pro-Iranian militia in Iraq.
On the second track would be an unprecedented U.S. diplomatic initiative to promote a Palestinian state NOW. It would involve some form of U.S. recognition of a demilitarized Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that would come into being only once Palestinians had developed a set of defined, credible institutions and security capabilities to ensure that this state was viable and that it could never threaten Israel. Biden administration officials have been consulting experts inside and outside the U.S. government about different forms this recognition of Palestinian statehood might take.
On the third track would be a vastly expanded U.S. security alliance with Saudi Arabia, which would also involve Saudi normalization of relations with Israel if the Israeli government is prepared to embrace a diplomatic process leading to a demilitarized Palestinian state led by a transformed Palestinian Authority.
It could deter Iran both militarily and politically by taking away the Palestinian card from Tehran. It could promote Palestinian statehood on terms consistent with Israeli security and, simultaneously, create the conditions for normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia on terms Palestinians can embrace.
And it is a strategy that could work with Arab Americans on Lake Michigan and with Arab allies on the Persian Gulf. It is a strategy that could force a reckoning inside Iranian politics, inside Palestinian politics and inside Israeli politics...."
non paywall https://archive.ph/A3qZe
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)ancianita
(43,322 posts)Never been a fan of Friedman's but since Oct 7 he's done some important geopolitical analyses!
This one is amazing and encouraging. He's right to say that if Biden succeeds it will change the world's geopolitics, imo.
Initech
(109,180 posts)ancianita
(43,322 posts)Initech
(109,180 posts)Greene, Boebert, Luna, Gosar, Gaetz, Jackson, Zinke, Johnson, Stefanik, Mace, Hawley, McConnell... they all gotta go!
soldierant
(9,372 posts)is that Boebert is dropping out
Would that the others were so easy to eliminate.
Initech
(109,180 posts)Cha
(320,374 posts)Sedona
(3,873 posts)I'd like to read the whole thing.
I used to like Friedman, though I havent for a long time.
Seems like he's coming around again.
ancianita
(43,322 posts)Mosby
(19,491 posts)Nt.
ancianita
(43,322 posts)Mosby
(19,491 posts)I wish I didn't.
ancianita
(43,322 posts)oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)"security capabilities to ensure that this state was viable and that it could never threaten Israel"
And just WHO will provide that security & how?
First they'd need to stop raising their children to believe that ALL of Israel must be destroyed & all Jews must die.
ancianita
(43,322 posts)They'll be given the choice to make a deal first. Then deal with their children second. Remember that Israel and Saudi Arabia were about to make a deal when Tehran sent in its Shia-backed attackers.
Now who's going to make them back off besides Israel. We are. Through the Biden Doctrine for the ME.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)They OPENLY continue to call for the TOTAL destruction of Israel & "death to jews". They raise their children that way in school. They elected Hamas as their leaders (although Hamas has never allowed ANOTHER election)
The majority of Palestinians still want a ONE state solution; ALL of Israel. The numbers do fluctuate but they're still high.
You are CERTAINLY right in the fact that Iran couldn't stomach ANOTHER Arab state, especially their arch rival S.A., making a peace deal with Israel
But as I often ask, why dont these rich Arab nations offer to rid the terrorist threat from the Palestinians in Gaza? Why cant THEY offer to provide a security force to prevent raids like Oct 7? Provide an actual working govt organization for them until they can get their shit together? I would think Israel would welcome that. But THEY need to get rid of Netanyahu too; he's an impediment to any legit peace deal. and the MISERABLE failure of the govt to stop the Oct attacks, which they KNEW was probable, is probably the first step to doing that
ancianita
(43,322 posts)I fully agree with your last paragraph, an argument I've made here for years. The Palestinians have been treated miserably by their Muslim neighbors, particularly as Iran has used its own proxies to stir up Hamas (which is Sunni).
Islamic nations are equally culpable for Palestinians' suffering, and could easily negotiate land donations toward establishing a Palestinian state.
Re alleged support for Hamas, I think you should still consider that, given those who voted in Hamas did it 17 years ago, with no election since or in the lifetimes of 52% the Gaza population, we really don't know if the majority of Palestinians support Hamas. Which is why Biden's plan would give Palestinians more political power in a newly established state of Palestine, imo.
PortTack
(35,824 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(21,272 posts)Hamas isn't just about fighting for Palestine. It's about eliminating Israel. Anything less is unacceptable to them.
ananda
(35,438 posts)Kudos to Biden and admin for good thinking
and planning!
ancianita
(43,322 posts)this Doctrine works in the major parties' interests. Biden can't fight Israel's fight FOR it; he, his state dept, tech & military team are planning good trouble that brings a lasting peace. That's a good thing. Friedman explains it better than anyone else I've read in media.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Mme. Defarge
(9,047 posts)Its powerful and a must read. . .
PufPuf23
(9,919 posts)Support POTUS Biden.