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senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 02:57 PM Feb 2024

Peter Baker of the NYT was very angry on Stephanie Ruhle's show last night

I have never seen him visibly angry when talking about Cheato. What seemed to set him off was Stephanie's (to me) mild criticism of the press during the press conference last night. She tried to do it with humor, but it was too much for Peter. He said something about Biden being sheltered from the press and I believe he accused him of being wrapped in bubble wrap or something like that. But the thing that really seemed to fry him was that Joe Biden has not granted one interview to a major newspaper. So basically, the NYT. He hasn't gotten an interview. That's the crux of it.

Stephanie did point out that many journalists on MSNBC and elsewhere, including her have interviewed Biden.

I know I'm singling out Baker here, but has reported some really horrendous things about Cheato and he never showed anger. I think many in the corporate media are concerned primarily about themselves, their careers and access.

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Peter Baker of the NYT was very angry on Stephanie Ruhle's show last night (Original Post) senseandsensibility Feb 2024 OP
"many in the corporate media are concerned primarily about themselves, their careers and access." shrike3 Feb 2024 #1
Like Jesus to the cross! AnrothElf Feb 2024 #12
or a contemporary victim of Saudi Arabian "justice" whathehell Feb 2024 #22
Oh well. Can't please everyone... AnrothElf Feb 2024 #34
Sure, because we all know death by torture whathehell Feb 2024 #45
2000+ years is still "too soon" for Xtians... AnrothElf Feb 2024 #46
You get nothing...Torture isn"t "funny" whathehell Feb 2024 #47
Buh-bye! You must be a lotta fun at parties. AnrothElf Feb 2024 #48
I turn off the box when Peter Baker comes on blogslug Feb 2024 #2
You know, that Orange Clown is the one who broke the norms. maxsolomon Feb 2024 #3
Yes, you are right. senseandsensibility Feb 2024 #4
and biden is et tu Feb 2024 #31
His wife too: IcyPeas Feb 2024 #5
This might interest you: spooky3 Feb 2024 #40
Her latest article from The New Yorker... "deeply unpopular eighty-one-year-old incumbent" IcyPeas Feb 2024 #41
Thanks. I will now switch channels the moment I see her. Nt spooky3 Feb 2024 #42
did i miss cheato sitting down w the times? mopinko Feb 2024 #6
Awwww poor baby did not get and interview with the prez, eh? suck it up and do you deserve it? nt mitch96 Feb 2024 #7
I have for a long time ignored Baker and his two sides issues. I have concerns about him Bev54 Feb 2024 #8
POS Fascist press can go fuck itself on a loop. onecaliberal Feb 2024 #9
Peter Baker has always been an arrogant prick. TomDaisy Feb 2024 #10
They don't get where they are by being nice guys. shrike3 Feb 2024 #13
New York Times reporters get ENRAGED when criticized FelineOverlord Feb 2024 #11
So easy yup. AnrothElf Feb 2024 #14
Our media is showing it's Ass. spanone Feb 2024 #15
I had the same thought MustLoveBeagles Feb 2024 #18
Two thoughts: planetc Feb 2024 #16
You have a way with words senseandsensibility Feb 2024 #19
Great summation...thx! PortTack Feb 2024 #26
The press are showing their A$$e$ MustLoveBeagles Feb 2024 #17
Oh boo hoo hoo! Put on your big boy pants and go sit in the corner until you're called upon. Geez................ machoneman Feb 2024 #20
This made me laugh MustLoveBeagles Feb 2024 #21
Hey Peter, trump and the repubs are trying to steal our democracy! Get mad about that! lucca18 Feb 2024 #23
Peter Baker fancied himself a Trump whisperer, translating Trump's nonsense Prairie Gates Feb 2024 #24
Why grant interviews to papers that are obviously bias against you? So hard to figure....gawd PortTack Feb 2024 #25
Agree. Ruhle was having none of his silliness. Nt spooky3 Feb 2024 #27
I'm really starting to like her senseandsensibility Feb 2024 #37
Access is the lifeblood of these peoples' careers and incomes. RockRaven Feb 2024 #28
It's all about them. All about their careers. They care not a whit about the country. shrike3 Feb 2024 #38
Yep. "Journalism"? Not so much. hatrack Feb 2024 #44
Peter Baker also went after President Biden on Katie Tur's show this afternoon. Greybnk48 Feb 2024 #29
because they only care about their petty careers DestinyIsles Feb 2024 #30
Nor should he. He cares about the people's business; they do not. shrike3 Feb 2024 #39
Peter Baker spent many years as bureau chief in Moscow. Grasswire2 Feb 2024 #32
Paul Krugman is pretty much the only NYT contributor whom Biden should grant an interview. LonePirate Feb 2024 #33
Fck him mcar Feb 2024 #35
Little mouse boy's pride was hurt Wild blueberry Feb 2024 #36
Like Haberman, Baker and Glasser are Hassler Feb 2024 #43
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
1. "many in the corporate media are concerned primarily about themselves, their careers and access."
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 03:26 PM
Feb 2024

You nailed it.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
46. 2000+ years is still "too soon" for Xtians...
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 10:41 AM
Feb 2024

I get it.

Personally, I think making fun of Jesus is the ultimate "punching up".

You do you. I'll do me.

Trying to smear me because I made fun of Jesus being nailed to the cross is pretty thin-skinned tho. Just sayin'...

whathehell

(29,632 posts)
47. You get nothing...Torture isn"t "funny"
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 10:39 PM
Feb 2024

whether it happened 2,000 years ago or 2 minutes ago. Most people understand this, regardless of religion or the lack of it. If you do not, I've got condolences for you, but nothing else..bye.





 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
48. Buh-bye! You must be a lotta fun at parties.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 12:08 AM
Feb 2024

You must hate British humor. Talk about dark. Ever watched Monty Python's "The Life of Bryan"?

Always look on the sunny side of life, internet rando. Always look on the sunny side. Everyone but Barabbas sang along!

maxsolomon

(34,929 posts)
3. You know, that Orange Clown is the one who broke the norms.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 03:33 PM
Feb 2024

He shunned the mainstream press, barely gave a press conference, and got away with it. He still gets away with it - no debates, no mainstream interviews, just tweets and glowering.

No quite sure why every pre-Trump norm is expected of Biden now. Particularly when the Ageist knives are out.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
4. Yes, you are right.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 03:37 PM
Feb 2024

As I recall, Cheato did not give one press conference during the reign of his last press secretary. That's why she made money by writing a book after he lost entitled something like I'll Take Your Questions Now. Not debating is another thing the press doesn't criticize.

IcyPeas

(22,506 posts)
41. Her latest article from The New Yorker... "deeply unpopular eighty-one-year-old incumbent"
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 08:51 PM
Feb 2024
...

And then there are the Democrats, going into an election year with a deeply unpopular eighty-one-year-old incumbent who is—at best—tied with Trump in the polls and hardly in a position to muscle important pieces of legislation through a badly divided Congress. Biden’s biggest problem is one he can do nothing about—his advancing age—and Republicans will do anything they can to seize on evidence of his infirmity and inability to do the job.

On Thursday afternoon, that case received an unexpected boost from an unlikely source, the special counsel appointed by the Justice Department to look into Biden’s possession of classified documents at his home and office after he left the Vice-Presidency, in 2017. Unlike Trump, now facing criminal charges for taking hundreds of secret documents with him after leaving office, Biden will not face prosecution, according to the report from the counsel, the attorney Robert Hur. But the scathing document has sections that could have been written by the Republican National Committee, most notably one in which Hur concludes that he could not put the trial before a jury in part because Biden came across to investigators as so diminished, a “well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.” Biden even struggled to remember the date of his own son Beau’s death, or when his Vice-Presidential term had ended.

This may be enough to help one escape indictment. But for a President already facing serious—and legitimate—questions about his capacity to do one of the toughest jobs in the world for another four years, it’s brutal. The strongest men in America are, these days, looking awfully weak. ?


https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/the-great-washington-meltdown-of-2024-has-begun

No paywall:

https://archive.is/b1lXz

Bev54

(11,851 posts)
8. I have for a long time ignored Baker and his two sides issues. I have concerns about him
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:00 PM
Feb 2024

He is of the Maggie Haberman tribe that play down Trump's assholery and plays up Biden's. I have no use for him.

FelineOverlord

(3,753 posts)
11. New York Times reporters get ENRAGED when criticized
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:18 PM
Feb 2024

I remember when everyone would dare criticize Maggie Haberman for her overt favoritism of the Trump Crime Family, he would immediately go on the attack..

And trust me, they think they should NEVER be criticized.

His wife, Susan Glasses of the New Yorker, is the same way.

This is why if I ever read a Times or New Yorker article, I refuse to pay.

It’s easy to get around the paywalls. 🙂

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
14. So easy yup.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:24 PM
Feb 2024

I'm the same way. I'm happy to subscribe... But not to the NYT. I still do WaPo, RawStory, and DU

planetc

(8,201 posts)
16. Two thoughts:
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:30 PM
Feb 2024

1) Those who work for the NYT all tend to make one assumption: that they're at the top of the pinnacle of journalistic success because they work for the Times. If that's their unconscious assumption, then being stiffed by the President would be infuriating, because nothing adds to the splendor of your reputation like sticking it to the chief executive. No surprise Baker is enraged.

2) Since the ancient days of Watergate, the political press has changed. Where they once demonstrated a decent amount of conventional respect for the man who held the highest office in this country, many of them now see any interview opportunity with any official to be a chance to embarrass that person in public. They are not so much interviewing as attacking verbally via questions about the most difficult situations and problems the official faces. The more the journalist can expose the "hypocrisy" or the "dishonesty" of the president, the more points they get with their peers, other journalists. Covering politicians has become a gladiatorial sport: the more blood on the sand, the better. What journalists think they're doing is "speaking truth to power," as though every single elected official must now be assumed to be corrupt by virtue of having been elected. And as though the populace has no defense against these raptors but the political press. In fact, the populace has lots of defenses, especially the myriad other journalists who dig persistently after facts, and publish them if a pattern is detected.

Speaking as one who watched the NYT burn Bill Clinton at the stake and then dance on his ashes, I'm delighted to see Mr. Baker's toes smoking.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
19. You have a way with words
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:34 PM
Feb 2024

not to mention an aptitude for writing. I agree with everything you wrote, and think you might have a future in editorial writing.

MustLoveBeagles

(12,376 posts)
17. The press are showing their A$$e$
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:31 PM
Feb 2024

This whining is nothing more than selective outrage. Where was their concern over trump's age and mental fitness when he was President? If there were complaints about lack of access during that time I must've missed them.

machoneman

(4,121 posts)
20. Oh boo hoo hoo! Put on your big boy pants and go sit in the corner until you're called upon. Geez................
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:39 PM
Feb 2024

Prairie Gates

(2,580 posts)
24. Peter Baker fancied himself a Trump whisperer, translating Trump's nonsense
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 04:58 PM
Feb 2024

into something resembling coherent policy for the public. He's a verified shitbag.

senseandsensibility

(20,256 posts)
37. I'm really starting to like her
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 08:07 PM
Feb 2024

She said something like okay they're both old, so it's a wash. Let's talk about who can do the job. But Glasser and Baker weren't having any of it.

RockRaven

(16,104 posts)
28. Access is the lifeblood of these peoples' careers and incomes.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 05:24 PM
Feb 2024

Access, access, access. That drives so much of their carrying water, or vitriol, as the case may be.

hatrack

(60,590 posts)
44. Yep. "Journalism"? Not so much.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 09:42 PM
Feb 2024

I wish I still subscribed to the NYT so that I could ditch my subscription again.

Greybnk48

(10,344 posts)
29. Peter Baker also went after President Biden on Katie Tur's show this afternoon.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 05:27 PM
Feb 2024

Peter Baker seemed like he has an axe to grind. He seemed angry, not professional.

Grasswire2

(13,684 posts)
32. Peter Baker spent many years as bureau chief in Moscow.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 05:48 PM
Feb 2024

Too many years, IMO.

Russians had/have a habit of collecting KOMPROMAT on others.

This is likely what's driving Peter.

LonePirate

(13,838 posts)
33. Paul Krugman is pretty much the only NYT contributor whom Biden should grant an interview.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 05:51 PM
Feb 2024

He’s an op ed columnist and former Nobel Prize winner in Economics. He’s been very praiseworthy of the soft landing and economic growth during the Biden years.

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