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Diamond_Dog

(40,838 posts)
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 12:15 PM Feb 2024

Madagascar is to castrate child rapists, prompting criticism but also support

ANTANANARIVO, Madagascar (AP) — Madagascar’s Parliament has passed a law allowing for the chemical and, in some cases, surgical castration of those found guilty of the rape of a minor, prompting criticism from international rights groups, but also finding support from activists in the country who say it’s an appropriate deterrent to curb a “rape culture.”

Parliament in the Indian Ocean island nation of 28 million passed the law on Feb. 2 and the Senate, the upper house, approved it last week. It must now be ratified by the High Constitutional Court and signed into law by President Andry Rajoelina, who first raised the issue in December. His government proposed the law change.

Justice Minister Landy Mbolatiana Randriamanantenasoa said it’s a necessary move because of an increase in cases of rape against children. In 2023, 600 cases of the rape of a minor were recorded, she said, and 133 already in January this year.

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Madagascar is to castrate child rapists, prompting criticism but also support (Original Post) Diamond_Dog Feb 2024 OP
This sounds more like revenge than justice. nt CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2024 #1
It is quite MOMFUDSKI Feb 2024 #2
There isn't much success in rehabilitating pedophilia. pandr32 Feb 2024 #3
Exactly. We need to PREVENT child abuse. barbaraann Feb 2024 #8
The damage done to a victim lasts forever. pandr32 Feb 2024 #12
He pleaded guilty to reduced crimes and got a lesser sentence and, yes, if he isn't killed in prison barbaraann Feb 2024 #13
Having survived sexual assault (though as an adult, not as a child)... TSExile Feb 2024 #4
Good Calculating Feb 2024 #5
What about false accusations? Also, it doesn't guarantee against assault. lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #6
False accusations is the only problem I have with it. StarryNite Feb 2024 #10
No to physical castration. Elessar Zappa Feb 2024 #7
Rape is not about the sex... haele Feb 2024 #9
No, for the same reason as the death penalty Sympthsical Feb 2024 #11
I'm OK with it. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #14

pandr32

(14,307 posts)
3. There isn't much success in rehabilitating pedophilia.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 12:42 PM
Feb 2024

We need to protect children from being preyed on as best we can.
We (in this country) have found that after offenders leave prison and are registered within a community, they can slip away and not report or stop taking the medication (chemical castration). I believe only some states use chemical castration. Physical castration is permanent, but a deviant, castrated person could still be a monster, but not as likely.
Castrated boys who had been selected to be educated and trained as they grew were used in palaces to guard harems and such. No testicles for you!
This should wind up being an interesting discussion.

barbaraann

(9,289 posts)
8. Exactly. We need to PREVENT child abuse.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 02:07 PM
Feb 2024

My family recently helped put a child molester in prison, but the victim needs years of therapy and support. In this case, it turns out he had gotten away with molesting a family member in his teens and if he had been caught and dealt with for that, the most recent abuse might not have happened.

Most organizations that provide opportunities for the abuse of children now have programs and policies in place to prevent predation, but that wasn't the case in years past. The Boy Scouts, for example, PRETENDED to have programs and policies to prevent child abuse before the reality was exposed.



pandr32

(14,307 posts)
12. The damage done to a victim lasts forever.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 02:55 PM
Feb 2024

I am so glad to hear your family "helped put a child molester in prison..." but they will get out eventually. Your example of the Boy Scouts is important because often the protections they tout are just PR. We must be more vigilant, and in case you haven't already guessed I am not against castration if we are to set these offenders free.
Happy Valentine's week!

barbaraann

(9,289 posts)
13. He pleaded guilty to reduced crimes and got a lesser sentence and, yes, if he isn't killed in prison
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 03:46 PM
Feb 2024

he should get out with some years left in his life. He'll be destitute, friendless, and on the sex offender list forever. In this case, I don't think castration would make any difference and I'm not sure it would in other cases. Perhaps castration for the people who cover up child molestation would work better. There were people who knew what Jimmy Saville and Jeffrey Epstein were up to who have gone unpunished. George Deukmejian protected thousands of molesters. We cannot forget how monstrous the enablers are.

In the case of this child, she was also molested, abused, and discarded by different people earlier in her life, but she has gotten a lot of support and treatment and she has an activity that she absolutely loves. The law enforcement and treatment organizations here have been truly outstanding in their response. It takes a village to help repair a damaged child and I am so proud of how my community has responded to help this child.

Happy Valentine's Week to you, too.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
4. Having survived sexual assault (though as an adult, not as a child)...
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 12:51 PM
Feb 2024

...I am not opposed to this idea. Survivors always will carry the scars, and these perpetrators will, too. They will live a lifetime having their bodies permanently altered and at the same time will never be capable of sexual assault again. If this sounds vengeful, so be it. I think it's justified in this case. Of course, to each his/her own.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
7. No to physical castration.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 12:54 PM
Feb 2024

Maybe as far as chemical castration goes. But I don’t know enough about it.

haele

(15,501 posts)
9. Rape is not about the sex...
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 02:17 PM
Feb 2024

It's about controlling and humiliating the victim. Sexual humiliation in particular is a focus because our cultures have such a weird prioritization about sex (or gender)and when/how it's acceptable or not.

Not saying castration might not stop some rapes, but the rapist will find some other way to get his (or her) jollies torturing a child or other person they consider inferior or legitimate prey.

The perpetrators are looking to destroy another sentient being. Period. The act of rape is only one of the means to do so.
Haele

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