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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThose "He Gets Us" ads are funded by White Christian Nationalists
https://www.au.org/the-servant-foundation/The Servant Foundation
The Servant Foundation, also known as The Signatry, is behind the He Gets Us ad campaign that debuted during the 2023 Super Bowl. Over the next three years, the Servant Foundation plans to spend about a billion dollars toward this public relations campaign. Theyve hired a PR firm to address, in the firms words, the problem of How did the worlds greatest love story in Jesus become known as a hate group?
Of course, theyre the cause of their own problem not only has the Servant Foundation funded hate groups, but the PR firm, Haven, has represented these organizations. Key Shadow Network members Focus on the Family and Alliance Defending Freedom are in their portfolio. ADF is a noted anti-LGBTQ hate group that has argued repeatedly in courts that religion, and specifically Christianity, is a license to discriminate; they have one such case pending before the Supreme Court right now.
The money trail
The Servant Foundation is one of ADFs biggest financial backers. A recent exposé reports that, between 2018-20, the Servant Foundation donated more than $50 million to the Alliance Defending Freedom and that those contributions were among the five largest donations given out by the foundation in each of those three years.
Other recipients of the Servant Foundations billion dollars in assets include:
* Nearly $8 million went to Answers in Genesis, creationist Ken Hams fundamentalist ministry behind the Creation Museum and Ark Encounter, an organization that has been championed by Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, a former ADF attorney.
* Over $1 million was designated for the anti-LGBTQ Campus Crusade for Christ (rebranded as Cru since 2011).
* $374,800 went to Al Hayat Ministries, an organization that seeks to respectfully yet fearlessly unveil the deception of Islam, and runs an Arabic-language Christian satellite TV station with the goal of converting Muslims to Christianity.
In 2020 alone, we found donations to prominent Shadow Network members American Center for Law and Justice, First Liberty Institute, and Liberty Counsel.
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live love laugh
(16,383 posts)skylucy
(4,024 posts)Recommended this thread because of this great comment!
themaguffin
(5,221 posts)Call them nationalist. White nationalist. Pieces of shit. Whatever, but they are not Christian.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Politics and religion use each other to gain power and wealth.
hvn_nbr_2
(6,793 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)magicarpet
(18,515 posts)Anti-Jesus as can be.
sop
(18,626 posts)themaguffin
(5,221 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)themaguffin
(5,221 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)They live it out in a way different than the way you think they should, in the name of Christ. It's still Christianity. There isn't "one" "real"" Christianity.
themaguffin
(5,221 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)themaguffin
(5,221 posts)know where to begin what that.. but it's the core of Christianity.
Conservatives don't support it. They are hostile to it.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)(The question was "when you say 'the gospel,' what do YOU mean?" not "when you say 'the gospel,' WHAT do you MEAN?" )
The point is, different Christians interpret those teachings very differently. And to pretend that there's one right answer is a form of Christian supremacy by equating Christianity, "REAL" Christianity, with moral good.
themaguffin
(5,221 posts)not the teachings of Christ... so while get as Christian, the OT is part of the package, it's the NT that is his teachings.
They ignore that.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)and LGBTQ people only use NT teachings to make their points. They focus on what Jesus' reported words in Matthew 22:36-40:
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
For them, verse 37 means following God's law (10 commandments). Verse 39 means telling everyone about how Jesus wants them to follow God's law. They see "love thy neighbor" as a command to evangelize and warn people when they're sinning. I think it's a shit interpretation. I also see their logic.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)That spells it out nicely.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)* The Beatitudes stress that people who are suffering will be comforted. It's clear, though, that the comfort is spiritual.
* The "salt and light" part is about making new disciples (salt) and bringing them to Jesus (light).
* The Antithesis broaden and deepen the concept of sin, making it clear that people cannot get to heaven without a savior/redeemer.
* It goes on to say that if they're true disciples, they won't have to worry about their lives and should just continue on preaching.
And all of it, which seems so straightforward, is interpreted in a wide variety of ways. A person could certainly see "blessed are the merciful" as an exhortation to exercise mercy through charity and policymaking; a person can also see it as being "merciful" by standing on a streetcorner and yelling about how to get saved, which some see as the most important work they can do. I've seen the "judge not" at the end to be interpreted as "don't judge unrighteously, but if you see someone going against God's word, go ahead and tell them what they're doing is wrong."
There simply isn't a whole lot of what we would describe as social justice in the gospels. Jesus himself said that he didn't come here to bring peace, but a sword. One interpretation is that he is warring against evil. Another is that he knew his word would divide people who might otherwise work together. It goes on and on.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)to stand on street corners and try to convert people. They believe they're following Christ's teachings. There is no one true Christianity.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,956 posts)honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)In fact they do the opposite, they advocate for slaves to be good slaves in this world so that they can 'go to heaven'. It was a slave religion from the start, and it was fully incorporated into the Roman Empire, a slave economy empire, by the end of the 4th century.
The reformation, back in the 1500s, integrated christianity with the emerging capitalist economy, providing religious ideological justification for wealth accumulation and inequality. If you think nonsense like the 'Prosperity Gospel' is some new deformed version of christianity, John Calvin would like a few thousand words.
themaguffin
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Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)Yahweh/God is a cruel, sociopathic dickhead. I wouldn't worship that '"Imma drown most of the population of Earth" piece of shit even if it actually existed instead of being just a mythological character in dumb Bronze Age stories.
themaguffin
(5,221 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)The male characters in the myths, like God and Jesus, are the ones given magical superpowers. Men like Noah, Job, Abraham, Moses, etc. get a lot of ink. Eve is the cause of all ills, and Mary is a rape victim/vessel for a Son. Those two are really the only important female characters.
Do unto others is a good sentiment, of course, but it came about long before these silly, convoluted stories were made up. Humans evolved over hundreds of thousands of years as highly social group-living primates who needed to cooperate and share to survive and thrive.
themaguffin
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magicarpet
(18,515 posts)KKKrishtun Jesus.
JanMichael
(25,725 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Youre despicable, wretched people,
And so is he.
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)who is also himself, as well as a ghost (
) "get" the thousands of Palestinian children being slaughtered, or the people starving to death, or the teens being sex trafficked, etc. etc. ...
Boomerproud
(9,292 posts)I thought I had read that somewhere.
Timeflyer
(3,757 posts)Cha-ching.
TSExile
(3,363 posts)That dough could be used to help rape crisis centers, battered women's shelters, food banks, etc. But of course, they hate women and the poor. (Of course, it's convenient for them to forget the passages in the Bible about the widows and orphans.) It's all about their own earthly power and wealth - and lording it over everyone else.
P.S. They obviously also skipped over the parable of the rich man and Lazarus!!
Cha
(319,087 posts)redqueen
(115,186 posts)Fighting sex trafficking is the job of law enforcement - but this is a bunch of billionaires
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/technology/child-sex-abuse-imagery-apple-safety-privacy.html
hlthe2b
(113,973 posts)A lot of people will be sucked in.
ellie
(6,975 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,916 posts)Selling imaginary gods w imaginary magic.
Sky Jewels
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born of a virgin impregnated by a cruel sky wizard is going to return to Earth to suck believers into the sky?! How could you doubt such an airtight tale?! /s
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,260 posts)underpants
(196,502 posts)Inclusive and basic.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,959 posts)None of those scenario's were realistic. It was almost a "look at me" thing.
Blue Owl
(59,111 posts)I ain't getting anywhere near some MAGAt with toenail fungus
Dulcinea
(10,094 posts)Asking for a friend.
lindysalsagal
(22,916 posts)Emile
(42,293 posts)Nevilledog
(55,082 posts)Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)so it usually goes on the deduction side.
Emile
(42,293 posts)a new purchase.
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)Religious organizations are not exempt from paying sales taxes. And there is no sales tax on hiring an ad agency to produce an ad. If there were then this organization would have to pay it.
cilla4progress
(26,525 posts)Accepting, tolerating, diverse ie gay, people, POC, etc.?
Nevilledog
(55,082 posts)They want people to buy into religion being in government as a good thing. We all know that the version of Christianity in the ads is the opposite of the actual theocracy they want.
cilla4progress
(26,525 posts)as to why they would so blatantly include transgendered and gay individuals, as well as many other of society's "outcasts."
Is it complete and utter bullshit?
Because this is the version of christianity I can support. Speaking as a humanist pagan atheist liberal.
Nevilledog
(55,082 posts)https://archive.li/KdBii
The Servant Foundation: the power behind the ads
https://www.au.org/the-servant-foundation/
Midnight Writer
(25,410 posts)We had food drives, we had a group that checked in on the elderly and sick, we had a group that would go to people's homes and perform maintenance and simple fixes and upgrades, we prepared holiday meals and delivered them to homes, we had a daycare program for working families. It was a lot of cheerful, happy folks getting together to help others, and it was exhilarating fun. We worked hard, but enjoyed it.
I don't recall any talk of LGBTQ folks, of white heritage, of prosperity gospel, of political power struggles. Certainly no endorsement of political candidates.
There were certainly bigoted, small-minded members, but they were either few in number or they kept quiet about it.
I miss the old "Love Thy Neighbor" and service oriented Christian Church that served a genuine role in making people's lives better here on earth.