This BS with Gaetz not watching the SB because of "black" national anthem

[senseandsensibility]

is pathetic and unhinged. It's also a lie. No one tried to replace the national anthem since the regular national anthem was performed by Reba.

It would be unworthy of comment except for the fact that almost all modern music, if not all, is influenced, if not a rip off, of black music. Anyone who consumes a modern form of music such as jazz, blues, rock, country, or of course, hip hop, should realize that it wouldn't exist with black people. And don't give me any guff about rock. The Beatles and the Stones, especially in their early days, paid homage to the blues and r and b artists that influenced them and were very out-front about how much they owed them. They practically worshipped Chuck Berry.

So what's the point? If there is a black national anthem, I'll bet it's pretty friggin good. And if there isn't, there should be.

Stuff it Gaetz.

[Walleye]

1. The song was introduced as "Lift Every Voice and Sing"

There was no mention anywhere of the black national anthem. He got that out of his ass. I’ve often thought, what a terrible artform our music would’ve been without Black people. Jazz, blues, the envy of the world. I am so sick of these white people and to look at me you could think I was one of them. Everybody knows that “America the Beautiful“ Is much better than the “Star-Spangled Banner”. When we were in school we didn’t put our hand over our heart for the Star-Spangled Banner, it was for the Pledge of Allegiance only. When did they come up with this shit

[senseandsensibility]

2. I agree about ATB

Absolutely beautiful song.

[Eugene]

3. It is also known as the Black National Anthem.

The local Black radio station in my home town
used to sign off with the song as such.

[senseandsensibility]

4. Is it a gospel song?

I admit I don't know much about its orgins.

[Ocelot II]

15. No, it's a more traditional type hymn, written in 1900.

See other posts in this thread.

[Eugene]

16. Wikipedia calls it a hymn.

"Lift Every Voice and Sing" is a hymn with lyrics by James Weldon Johnson (1871–1938) and set to music by his brother, J. Rosamond Johnson (1873–1954). Written from the context of African Americans in the late 19th century, the hymn is a prayer of thanksgiving to God as well as a prayer for faithfulness and freedom, with imagery that evokes the biblical Exodus from slavery to the freedom of the "promised land."

Premiered in 1900, "Lift Every Voice and Sing" was communally sung within Black American communities, while the NAACP began to promote the hymn as a "Negro national anthem" in 1917 (with the term "Black national anthem" similarly used in the present day). It has been featured in 42 different Christian hymnals, and it has also been performed by various African American singers and musicians. Its prominence has increased since 2020 following the George Floyd protests; in 2021, then House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn sponsored a bill proposing that "Lift Every Voice and Sing" be designated as the "national hymn" of the United States.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_Every_Voice_and_Sing

[Walleye]

21. Thanks for the excellent info. I know I've heard it song in African-American churches here in Wilmington

[Walleye]

22. Nothing wrong with designating it the national him. Would that really offended these people?

[Aristus]

24. You'd think the Christofascists would like a hymn for the national anthem.

The music to the current national anthem is taken from an old English drinking song.

[Mossfern]

14. We sang that in High School

which was majority Black. I didn't know it was the Black national anthem.
It wouldn't have made a difference any way. Being a member of the school chorus, this little Jewish girl had the privilege of singing in various local churches. Didn't think about it at all....

[democrank]

5. A "black" national anthem?

Gaetz is a bit lacking in the diversity department.

Perhaps he even believes that if asked to paint their favorite flower, all his Best White Friends would paint only roses.

[Ocelot II]

17. The NAACP started calling it that in 1917.

[ret5hd]

25. Wrong! Edelweiss is the correct answer.

[Kingofalldems]

6. Doesn't he represent the Alabama part of Florida?

[senseandsensibility]

7. Probably

It must be one of those districts like MTG comes from.

[Ocelot II]

8. The "Black national anthem" is called "Lift Every Voice and Sing."

It 's a hymn that was written in about 1900 and has been called the Black or Negro national anthem since 1917, when the NAACP started promoting it. It's been a big deal in the Black community ever since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_Every_Voice_and_Sing It's a lot of church hymnals - I've sung it in a mostly White church service.

This is the Super Bowl performance.

[senseandsensibility]

10. The content is blocked

unfortunately.

[Ocelot II]

12. I found another link - try this one.

[Eugene]

9. Right-wing culture warriors were freaking out about this a few months ago.

I'm pleasantly surprised the NFL stuck to their guns on this.

[senseandsensibility]

11. Yeah, good for them

[TheProle]

13. Racist asshole is racist asshole

Your contention about all modern music tracing its roots back to Black music is a little simplistic, but overall good post.

[getagrip_already]

18. It makes me smile inside to know

They are walking away from something they say they love because they think it's been poisoned by diversity and inclusion.

Pretty soon, they will be in a very lonely and bitter place.

[keithbvadu2]

19. Right wingers got upset about the National Anthem in Spanish. Dubya sang it in Spanish on the campaign trail.

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/candidate-bush-would-sing-the-star-spangled-banner-in-spanish-at-hispanic-festivals-54505d8ac760/

[senseandsensibility]

20. Wow, I'd forgotten that bit about

Dubya being "bilingual", although he was probably just conversant at a basic level. Still it was in the days when such a thing was seen as a positive in the republican party.

[TwilightZone]

29. He knew enough to deliver speeches mostly in Spanish, but wasn't fluent.

Like a lot of second-language speakers, he could understand more than he could speak.

It is interesting to note how quickly the GOP turned that from a positive into a negative.

Curiously, it was thought that Jeb - much more fluent in Spanish - might generate a resurgence in Latino outreach in the GOP. Of course, he crashed and burned before he got much of a chance.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/opinion-whos-doing-real-gop-latino-outreach-except-bush-family-n401596

[Voltaire2]

23. It is neither pathetic nor unhinged.

It is deliberately evoking an imaginary past where we were all united ('all' meaning white men) in a golden age, that being the period 1950-1970. It is part of a well fashioned fascist propaganda campaign. It is of course 'irrational', there was no golden age from 1950-1970, in fact that era, while white men were financially better off, was fraught with racial conflicts, with nuclear war anxiety, and by the late 60's was unravelling both economically and culturally. It is an imaginary temporal world outside of actual reality, which is entirely intentional.

[appmanga]

26. Gee...

...I wish I could care. But I don't. I've been black for too long to care about what some nepo-baby, frat-boy pedo gets upset about.

[Think. Again.]

27. Should someone tell him...

...that each and every one of our bloodlines originated in Africa (even his)?

[struggle4progress]

28. "Lift every voice" is a great song