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Renew Deal

(85,349 posts)
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 11:29 PM Feb 2024

Do self-driving cars have a right to self defense?

Last edited Tue Feb 13, 2024, 11:38 AM - Edit history (1)

A self-driving car was vandalized and burned on San Francisco streets during a lunar new year celebration. The car was a helpless victim to this senseless act of violence. Do self-driving cars have a right to self-defense? Should they be equipped with defensive weapons?




EDIT: NBC updated the video with more information since it was first posted.
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Do self-driving cars have a right to self defense? (Original Post) Renew Deal Feb 2024 OP
Trunk Monkey Kennah Feb 2024 #1
That's an emphatic no. Takket Feb 2024 #2
Why? TwilightZone Feb 2024 #3
I'm cool if a car has hidden cameras, theft deterrents like auto locks, etc. No on weapons. Silent Type Feb 2024 #4
These cars are coverered in cameras Renew Deal Feb 2024 #9
I believe you are anthropomorphizing an inanimate object. LudwigPastorius Feb 2024 #5
Only if you are Batman tritsofme Feb 2024 #6
A self driving car is a robot sanatanadharma Feb 2024 #7
Have you seen Blade Runner Renew Deal Feb 2024 #10
Like this? SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2024 #8
Yes, exactly Renew Deal Feb 2024 #11

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
3. Why?
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 11:42 PM
Feb 2024

I presume you're being sarcastic, but the assertion is pretty ridiculous. I doubt the argument that property should have precedence over human life is likely to gain many adherents, other than wacky stand-your-ground types. Maybe not even them.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
4. I'm cool if a car has hidden cameras, theft deterrents like auto locks, etc. No on weapons.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 11:53 PM
Feb 2024

Renew Deal

(85,349 posts)
9. These cars are coverered in cameras
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 11:32 AM
Feb 2024

So, I do wonder if the images were sent back to whatever their control station is. There may be very good pictures of the vandals.

LudwigPastorius

(15,001 posts)
5. I believe you are anthropomorphizing an inanimate object.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 01:52 AM
Feb 2024

...and, corporations and William O. Douglas not withstanding, inanimate objects do not have rights.

sanatanadharma

(4,090 posts)
7. A self driving car is a robot
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 07:38 AM
Feb 2024

Despite decades of hearing about the 'laws of robots', I would not be surprised to learn if 'techies' decide cars have self-defense rights.
Giving robots the right to kill; what could go wrong? AI might learn about it and spread the word that the so-called laws of robotics were always a farce.

Renew Deal

(85,349 posts)
10. Have you seen Blade Runner
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 11:34 AM
Feb 2024

Or Ex Machina? It's easy to say robots don't have rights when they don't communicate. I bet it's going to be more complicated when they can make decisions, communicate, and especially provide companionship.

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